Ferdville- the pick 6 paid a whooping $230 on thur.needless to say i never cashed a ticket.Know what you mean about H.P. I can can grind out a profit at S.A. then along comes H.P. everything changes.Usally bet w/p but at H.P. plays either win or run right up the track very few seconds have to adjust.I know H.P. is a bit deeper and slower than S.A.,but yet speed seems to hold up well.have a good weekend!