HOLY CLEMSON -13 Batman!!!

[Heatspix]

Jump on this one early Folx! I think this line is -13 due to the uncertainty of Boyd's shoulder. No doubt that Wake plays Clemson tough and definitely should at home in Thrusday Primetime, but I expect this number to be -14.5 or -15 by Thursday night. I'm jumping on the Tigers regardless. This team is starting to Gel and The LB Corp is developing nicely with the emergence of Spencer SHUEY as a dependable playmaker.


Tigers 39
Deacs 20

 

[elmer fudd]

Jump on this one early Folx! I think this line is -13 due to the uncertainty of Boyd's shoulder. No doubt that Wake plays Clemson tough and definitely should at home in Thrusday Primetime, but I expect this number to be -14.5 or -15 by Thursday night. I'm jumping on the Tigers regardless. This team is starting to Gel and The LB Corp is developing nicely with the emergence of Spencer SHUEY as a dependable playmaker.


Tigers 39
Deacs 20

bol...i have them in teasers -6...:toast:

 

[Durwood]

Short week of rest, they'll likely have a conservative game plan. I don't expect a barn burner.

 

[Heatspix]

Short week of rest, they'll likely have a conservative game plan. I don't expect a barn burner.

:SIB



Don't bank on it. Chad Morris was pissed with last weeks performance vs. VT! They spent a few minutes each day last week prepping for the WF game due to the shorter week this week. I expect 470+ yards of Offense and 35-39 points by the Tigers. Wake will have fits trying contain Hopkins, Watkins, Ford and Humphries. And Ellington will top 105 yards on the ground.

 

[birdieman]

Clemson has played 1 team with a winning record.

 

[airportis]

everything you are saying may good and well be true but this was the case last year as well, was it not?

Boyd 300+ yards passing

Ellington 98 yards rushing

outgained Wake by 200+ yards

yet they only win by 3 in Clemson


now a year later on a short week you (and over 70% of the public according to one site) are on Clemson laying double digits in a road conference game on prime time TV....AND the line has dropped to 11.5

Clemson may win by 2 TD or even 4 TD, but in this scenario I will back the underdog every single time.

you may be right and Clemson might win in a blowout but be careful backing this team every week because being a homer can bite you in the ass.

 

[birdieman]

Actually Clemson has played two teams with a winning record if you want to count Ball St. Here are the records - Auburn(1-6) Ball St (5-3) Furman (2-6) FSU (7-1) BC (1-6) GT (3-4).

 

[Heatspix]

everything you are saying may good and well be true but this was the case last year as well, was it not?

Boyd 300+ yards passing

Ellington 98 yards rushing

outgained Wake by 200+ yards

yet they only win by 3 in Clemson


now a year later on a short week you (and over 70% of the public according to one site) are on Clemson laying double digits in a road
conference game on prime time TV....AND the line has dropped to 11.5

Clemson may win by 2 TD or even 4 TD, but in this scenario I will back the underdog every single time.

you may be right and Clemson might win in a blowout but be careful backing this team every week because being a homer can bite you in the ass.

Ummm....do you have any idea the diffrence in this years team and last years? As for the Homer comment, I only play Clemson BIG when I feel I should and so far I've been pretty successful. This team is so much better than last years it's scary.

 

[birdieman]

Eveyone here locally is talking about how the Clemson defense has improved. Well there is reason their opponents have losing records - their offences really suck. PPG rankings Aub 122, Ball St 38, Furman (NA), FSU (7), GT (25), BC (90). Clemson 's defense is still ranked 63rd giving up 25.9 points per game against some pretty crappy teams

 

[big papi]

the line dropped because idiots like myself pounded wake:142smilie

 

[birdieman]

BTW, last years defense gave up 29.3 per game and was ranked 85 but that includes the WV raping.

 

[airportis]

Ummm....do you have any idea the diffrence in this years team and last years? As for the Homer comment, I only play Clemson BIG when I feel I should and so far I've been pretty successful. This team is so much better than last years it's scary.

to me in a game like this you can throw how much better they are from last year straight out the window.

I would assume any team that let up 70 points in a bowl game WOULD be a lot better the following season.

the only information I need to know about these teams to pick a side is what is right in front of everyone.

everyone obviously thinks Clemson is a great team and for good reason, so it is not a shock that over 70% are on Clemson

but why with over 70% on Clemson if you are a bookmaker would you move the line down nearly 2 points?

doesnt really make sense does it?

a bad Wake team getting less than 2 TD at home against a ranked offensive powerhouse that everyone is jumping on, yet the line drops from 13 to 11.5

I don't need to know that Wake does a lot of similar stuff to Clemson on offense, or any stats or trends. All I need to look at is that information and that something definitely stinks about that line move.

is it a guarantee that Clemson is a sucker bet when there is a scenario like this? no, but it sure looks like one the way it is setting up.

 

[Heatspix]

Eveyone here locally is talking about how the Clemson defense has improved. Well there is reason their opponents have losing records - their offences really suck. PPG rankings Aub 122, Ball St 38, Furman (NA), FSU (7), GT (25), BC (90). Clemson 's defense is still ranked 63rd giving up 25.9 points per game against some pretty crappy teams

:mj07:



Look at Wake....Clemson has played 3 top 40 offenses....ok I'll give you that. They sure won't be playing one this Thursday...Wake is 98th in PPG, 97th in Passing and 101st in Rushing. Not to mention 75th in Defensive PPG. As for Ball State putting 27 on the Tigers...were you at the game? I was. Did you notice that Clemson's entire second team D and O played the second half? I guess you can do that when you're up 45-10 at the half. I'm not telling anyone to follow my lead. I'm simply saying that I'm loading up on the Tigers because I know what is expected of this Offense and last week didn't cut it. IMO CMorris will give an example of what this Offense is capable of!


GL to you no matter which way you go! :0008

 

[Heatspix]

BTW, last years defense gave up 29.3 per game and was ranked 85 but that includes the WV raping.

Yeah, this year's D isn't great by any means, but it's much better than the complicated scheme KSteele tried to run with fresh and sophs last season. He runs a D scheme that is used in the NFL! There's a reason he wasn't picked up as a DC somewhere else.

 

[birdieman]

Pretty sure one of CU's leading DB's is out as well

 

[Heatspix]

Pretty sure one of CU's leading DB's is out as well

Darius Robinson....Go back and watch game film. He gets burned more than the seats in Sammy Watkins car!

 

[Heatspix]

Airport....do you think the line move could have anything to do with the Status of Boyd after getting banged up a bit vs VT? :shrug:

 

[airportis]

Airport....do you think the line move could have anything to do with the Status of Boyd after getting banged up a bit vs VT? :shrug:

maybe but like you pointed out, look how obviously bad Wake is....98th in ppg, close to 100 in both passing and rushing ypg...and not very sound defensively...if there were any serious status worry I think this game would be off the board.

the more obvious it is that it should be a blowout (comparing the O and D ranks, etc.) the more it makes me lean towards the other side.

especially being the only game on tv on a thursday night, every bettor who needs action will play it, meaning everyone is going to look at these basic facts of how good Clemson offense is and how bad Wake is.

and with 7 out of 10 guys taking Clemson, Vegas isn't in the business to lose money.

like I said, Clemson may good and well win by 40 points, but if I were forced to play a game like this I'd take my chances with the home dog, although the publicly backed plays have been doing quite well this year so far.

 

[birdieman]

Darius Robinson....Go back and watch game film. He gets burned more than the seats in Sammy Watkins car!

If he is that bad I would hate to see his backup

 

[Heatspix]

If he is that bad I would hate to see his backup

Haha...good point. They've moved a safety to his corner position this week. You may want to call Grobe and let him know to attack with all of Wake's deep threats! Oh...wait.