How can anyone say the big 12
- Thread starter GoTerps
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compared to every other conference......it's not even close, the big 12 is light years better than the sec-acc-big east-pac-10 and big 10 (which is a joke)
Seriously ,I think the ACC has alot of great teams ,you might see an average of 2 to 3 loses for teams.Realisticly its because these teams are good,not bad.
To answer your question .Of course they could(See BC).
Sorry man,
No ACC team could match, slow down or handle the offense that would be thrown at them.
BC would get embarrassed by Texas, Okie, TT, or Mizzou
I disagree ,Ill give the offense to those schools,but size wise on D BC ,is much bigger.
Brace and Herzlich who both could be high draft picks have size and speed.Not to mention they lead nation in takaways (interceptions).
Maybe they will meet one of those teams in a bowl game.
So that would be projected to be what there 10th straight bowl win.If they win next week thats a 2nd straight trip to ACC championship game .
Lets see what happens.Ill say one thing there consistent either way,kinda like Baylor who finishes 2-9 every year.
It's hard for Baylor to do much better playing in the best conference in football. And Baylor is 4-7 and would pound SJSU.
I remember a few years ago Baylor taking BC to OT on the road.
Baylor went 1-10 that season beating UNT and lost @BC 30-29 in OT on a missed XP so don't kick Baylor.
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The BC D is bigger than whom?
Could be high draft picks? What are Bradford, Crabtree, Murray, Macklin, Dez Bryant.
Those are all high 1st rounders & that is just the tip the ice burg.
BC would be dizzy trying to stop these O's. :mj07:
So if BC is the #1 team in the ACC, you want to put them on a neutral field vs Texas or Okie & you think they win?
The line would be -20+
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Like always OU pounds the bad teams with style.
It seems Texas is going to get burned by the Late Loss Syndrome.
Texas loses to TT on their field.
TT loses to OU on their foeld.
Texas beats OU on neutral field.
Texas is only team of the 3 to beat the Big 12 North champ Missouri.
So who should go to the Big 12 title game.
It seems Texas is going to get burned by the Late Loss Syndrome.
Texas loses to TT on their field.
TT loses to OU on their foeld.
Texas beats OU on neutral field.
Texas is only team of the 3 to beat the Big 12 North champ Missouri.
So who should go to the Big 12 title game.
Texas. Texas is the only team not to get a single 'big' game at home. N vs OU, @ Mizzou, @ TT.
Texas won on neutral field vs OU.
They played TT w/o a starting WR & their best D player out for a majority of the game & still only lost on a last second TD.
I 100% agree,but I am afraid it just isn't gonna shake out that way.
I will agree that OU is VERY HOT right now, but facts are facts.
Texas beat them on a neutral field and both have 1 loss.
We are not sending USC to the Rose Bowl over Oregon St just because USC is hot.
I will agree that OU is VERY HOT right now, but facts are facts.
Texas beat them on a neutral field and both have 1 loss.
We are not sending USC to the Rose Bowl over Oregon St just because USC is hot.
Standings
Standings
Bowl Subdivision | Championship Subdivision
Teams
Atlantic Coast Conf All
Atlantic
Maryland (22) 4-2 7-3
Wake Forest 4-3 6-4
Florida State 4-3 7-3
Boston College 3-3 7-3
Clemson 3-4 5-5
North Carolina State 2-4 4-6
Coastal
Georgia Tech 5-3 8-3
Miami (FL) (23) 4-3 7-4
Virginia Tech 3-3 6-4
Virginia 3-3 5-5
North Carolina (25) 3-3 7-3
Duke 1-5 4-6
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North Division
Missouri (12) 5-2 9-2
Nebraska 4-3 7-4
Kansas 3-4 6-5
Colorado 2-5 5-6
Kansas State 1-6 4-7
Iowa State 0-7 2-9
South Division
Texas Tech (2) 6-0 10-0
Texas (4) 6-1 10-1
Oklahoma (5) 5-1 9-1
Oklahoma State (11) 5-2 9-2
Baylor 2-5 4-7
Texas A&M 2-5 4-7
Here are the 2 conf. standings based on games played before today.Notice were the ACC has more teams over .500,and the Big 12 has more teams under .500.
The South Division is very strong record wise thou as 4 teams have 9 wins or more.But the North division is very weak(understatement),as only 2teams have 7 wins or better.
Looking at the ACC. 6teams have 7wins or better
Only 2 teams have 4 wins or less .None have less then that,weres the 12conf .has 4 teams with 4 wins or less,with 1 team having 2 loses (IOWA ST).
Bottom line the Big 12 might have one better division than the ACC,but a better conference??
Thats up for debate.
Plus to compare the 2conferences is tough cause there 2 different styles.The ACC is built on defense and special teams.You wont find no Texas Gunslingers up here.Thats what the big 12 is built on.Offense,Offense,Offense.
But if you put these 2 conferences playing head to head.You cant say one is better than the other.
I could put up 60 pts. on some of the defenses in the big 12,no??
Standings
Bowl Subdivision | Championship Subdivision
Teams
Atlantic Coast Conf All
Atlantic
Maryland (22) 4-2 7-3
Wake Forest 4-3 6-4
Florida State 4-3 7-3
Boston College 3-3 7-3
Clemson 3-4 5-5
North Carolina State 2-4 4-6
Coastal
Georgia Tech 5-3 8-3
Miami (FL) (23) 4-3 7-4
Virginia Tech 3-3 6-4
Virginia 3-3 5-5
North Carolina (25) 3-3 7-3
Duke 1-5 4-6
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North Division
Missouri (12) 5-2 9-2
Nebraska 4-3 7-4
Kansas 3-4 6-5
Colorado 2-5 5-6
Kansas State 1-6 4-7
Iowa State 0-7 2-9
South Division
Texas Tech (2) 6-0 10-0
Texas (4) 6-1 10-1
Oklahoma (5) 5-1 9-1
Oklahoma State (11) 5-2 9-2
Baylor 2-5 4-7
Texas A&M 2-5 4-7
Here are the 2 conf. standings based on games played before today.Notice were the ACC has more teams over .500,and the Big 12 has more teams under .500.
The South Division is very strong record wise thou as 4 teams have 9 wins or more.But the North division is very weak(understatement),as only 2teams have 7 wins or better.
Looking at the ACC. 6teams have 7wins or better
Only 2 teams have 4 wins or less .None have less then that,weres the 12conf .has 4 teams with 4 wins or less,with 1 team having 2 loses (IOWA ST).
Bottom line the Big 12 might have one better division than the ACC,but a better conference??
Thats up for debate.
Plus to compare the 2conferences is tough cause there 2 different styles.The ACC is built on defense and special teams.You wont find no Texas Gunslingers up here.Thats what the big 12 is built on.Offense,Offense,Offense.
But if you put these 2 conferences playing head to head.You cant say one is better than the other.
I could put up 60 pts. on some of the defenses in the big 12,no??
First off the top of the BIG 12 is the top in the nation. They are so far ahead of the ACC its not even funny.
You want to compare bottom feeders, there we could debate. You want to talk cream of the conference the ACC would get smoked.
The ACC is just a mess of a bunch of average teams where any team can beat any team.
The BIG 12 has ELITE national teams.
I will put Texas or Okie on a field vs any ACC team & would just wonder if your ACC choice could keep it under a 28 pt loss.
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Find it odd that 4 teams have 9 wins or more .
The reason??the other teams are weak sisters.
Theres no parity in the big 12.
To say the ACC dont compare is just wrong.
Why??Cause there not flashy like Texas and Oak., please.
The ACC might be a boring conference,but not inferior to the big 12.GT,BC,Florida St.,Miami,NC,Maryland are all good teams.The problem is they beat each other up .Its called parity.
We could debate all nite about this ,but im done.
If you want the final say go ahead im done,it wont change my mind about the subject.
