How can people be this dumb?

[fatdaddycool]

I understand and agree with what you're saying, but here's the difference - most humans can at least UNDERSTAND or COMPREHEND a heated or violent argument with another human being where you want to cause them bodily injury because of some perceived wrong. We get that, b/c I'm sure we've all had times where we wanted to actually physically hurt someone. Of course it's totally unacceptable, that's why those who lack impulse control end up in jail. I think what most people can't comprehend, or wrap their arms around is TORTURING and KILLING an innocent animal and ENJOYING IT and thnking it's cool. That's completely depraved.

Kelly,
I love you baby.........you know I do but I don't think that you or anyone for that matter can attest as to his mental state and emotional state while drowning Lassie.

You know, not only am I compassionate and sentimental I am quite good looking as well!!!

 

[The Sponge]

Maubury just backtracked on his statement :mj07: Its such a blatant backtrack that it might be more pathetic then what he said to start things off. Now he is throwing Vick under the bus big time.:mj07:

 

[kellyindallas]

Kelly,
I love you baby.........you know I do but I don't think that you or anyone for that matter can attest as to his mental state and emotional state while drowning Lassie.

You know, not only am I compassionate and sentimental I am quite good looking as well!!!

Hey babe - how are you? I don't have to know his mental state, the fact that he tortured and killed animals who didn't perform up to his liking is enough for me.

Maybe I'm crazy...

 

[The Sponge]

Hey babe - how are you? I don't have to know his mental state, the fact that he tortured and killed animals who didn't perform up to his liking is enough for me.

Maybe I'm crazy...

I thought the object was they fight to the death. So why is he hanging dogs that are already dead? Sweetheart/babe:shrug:

 

[flapjack]

exactly, maybe vick and marbury arent the morons, but the real morons are the people who care more about dog fighting than those more important issues. do these same people feel as strongly about anti **** fighting that they do about dog fighting? :mj07: im sure they dont because people dont have them as pets like they do dogs.

Vick is getting about what he deserves - 1 to 2 years in prison. If he did to people what he did to dogs, he would be on the same plan as Dahmer and Bundy and get the electric chair. Since they are dogs, he's only going to get a couple years. So, no, he is not getting unfairly treated just because he tortured animals. He is getting off fairly easily. Animal torture is how many serial killers got their start. Once you are capable of doing these unspeakable acts to animals, you have cleared a major hurdle in being able to do these acts with humans. Anyone who would participate in that activity is most likely already too F'd up to ever be a decent member of society. He is unredeemable and most likely will blow all his money and end up in a crack den when all is said and done - and then justice will be done.

As for people who compare this to drive drunk, etc, you have to be kidding me! Its about intent. If someone plots out a driving route that will take them by a nursing home, downs a bottle of Beam and then proceeds to attempt to take out as many old people as possible with their car, then yes, the intent and crime is similar. But, to compare someone who took joy and profit in savagely killing helpless animals to someone who had too much to drink and then drove home?
Are you F'ing kidding me? Can someone be that dense?

 

[The Sponge]

Vick is getting about what he deserves - 1 to 2 years in prison. If he did to people what he did to dogs, he would be on the same plan as Dahmer and Bundy and get the electric chair. Since they are dogs, he's only going to get a couple years. So, no, he is not getting unfairly treated just because he tortured animals. He is getting off fairly easily. Animal torture is how many serial killers got their start. Once you are capable of doing these unspeakable acts to animals, you have cleared a major hurdle in being able to do these acts with humans. Anyone who would participate in that activity is most likely already too F'd up to ever be a decent member of society. He is unredeemable and most likely will blow all his money and end up in a crack den when all is said and done - and then justice will be done.

As for people who compare this to drive drunk, etc, you have to be kidding me! Its about intent. If someone plots out a driving route that will take them by a nursing home, downs a bottle of Beam and then proceeds to attempt to take out as many old people as possible with their car, then yes, the intent and crime is similar. But, to compare someone who took joy and profit in savagely killing helpless animals to someone who had too much to drink and then drove home?
Are you F'ing kidding me? Can someone be that dense?

I like when people say "how can a guy with this much money be this stupid and get involved with something like this?" I say how can anyone get involved in something like this?

 

[fatdaddycool]

Hey babe - how are you? I don't have to know his mental state, the fact that he tortured and killed animals who didn't perform up to his liking is enough for me.

Maybe I'm crazy...

I am absolutely fabulous Darling thanks for asking. Yea, I agree the guy is of questionable character at the very least and having the stomach to do that to helpless animals is disgusting to me in itself, but I do think that the fact that it is an animal issue and not a human issue and the viciousness with which the public has chastised him as compared to that of a human is what IMFelhkr was saying. I see his point, it is a severe reaction as compared to what it would be if he beat his wife. Anyway, who cares..........are we ready yet? Also, crazy I can handle.....................

I'm tellin ya we have to start the whole courtship pretty quick. Summer is almost over and I won't be able to show off my abs..............

 

[airportis]

Vick is getting about what he deserves - 1 to 2 years in prison. If he did to people what he did to dogs, he would be on the same plan as Dahmer and Bundy and get the electric chair. Since they are dogs, he's only going to get a couple years. So, no, he is not getting unfairly treated just because he tortured animals. He is getting off fairly easily. Animal torture is how many serial killers got their start. Once you are capable of doing these unspeakable acts to animals, you have cleared a major hurdle in being able to do these acts with humans. Anyone who would participate in that activity is most likely already too F'd up to ever be a decent member of society. He is unredeemable and most likely will blow all his money and end up in a crack den when all is said and done - and then justice will be done.

As for people who compare this to drive drunk, etc, you have to be kidding me! Its about intent. If someone plots out a driving route that will take them by a nursing home, downs a bottle of Beam and then proceeds to attempt to take out as many old people as possible with their car, then yes, the intent and crime is similar. But, to compare someone who took joy and profit in savagely killing helpless animals to someone who had too much to drink and then drove home?
Are you F'ing kidding me? Can someone be that dense?

lol that is nothing like being a serial killer. you are so far off. you must not know where he comes from and that people do these things all the time it is like a sport to them. just because they kill the dogs dosent mean they can kill a human. are you saying that because joe shmoe can shoot a deer and kill it then eat it, that he is one step closer to being able to kill a human and then eat that too?

also...did ray lewis or kobe get suspended when they had their little incidents?

 

[yyz]

you are so far off. you must not know where he comes from and that people do these things all the time it is like a sport to them.

Here are some more "Southern Sportsmen" doing what is natural where they come from.

Guess it's no big deal, 'cause it's where they came from, and people did it all the time......

It was like a sport to them!

 

[flapjack]

lol that is nothing like being a serial killer. you are so far off. you must not know where he comes from and that people do these things all the time it is like a sport to them. just because they kill the dogs dosent mean they can kill a human. are you saying that because joe shmoe can shoot a deer and kill it then eat it, that he is one step closer to being able to kill a human and then eat that too?

also...did ray lewis or kobe get suspended when they had their little incidents?

I didnt call him a serial killer. I pointed out that the ability to derive pleasure out of toruring animals is one indicator of someone who has the potential to become one. Most likely wont happen, but it puts it into context the mentality of someone who would do these things.

But, I didnt realize that this behaviour was all cool and everything down there in his 'hood. If thats the case, then forget about all that baloney about laws and human decency. Lets go out and torture some animals then maybe rape a couple kids, set someones house on fire. Come on, airportis! Everyones doing it, so its like totally cool and everything. If we get busted, we can just cry about how we just wanted to keep our street cred and how since other people do bad things, it is unfair we be held accountable.

 

[Agent 0659]

And humans are my favorite animals. I've got a thing for 'em.

No wonder you and I disagree on this one.

(most) Humans are so far down on my list of things I like, well let's just say they are way down there.....

 

[McVegas]

Yup, that is what I'm saying. Ever heard of Ray Lewis?



I agree. People who torture animals are sick...

But that isn't my point. My point is there are tons of athletes who have basically been given passes, or at least forgiven much more quickly for doing violent things to humans.

And humans are my favorite animals. I've got a thing for 'em.

What about Rae Carruth? That jackass is still in jail for what he did, and I remember the media being all over that mess. He did not get away with it.

 

[mcity]

This is no longer about animals, this is about race.....just like every other high profile case goes in this country.


OJ.....started out as murder.....ended up racial.

Duke Lacrosse.....started out as an alleged rape...........black people....black activists....black panthers..... made it racial.....and then tucked tail and disappeared without so much as offering an apology for what they did to those kids when it came out as a total BS story made up by a crackheaded ho.

Imus......started out as a dumb comment......turned big time racial.

Mike Vick.....started out as dog fighting, etc......and now it is pretty much divided along racial lines.



The thing that pisses off white people in this country is the fact that black people will jump on a white person (Imus or the Duke players) and demand that "said" person or persons lose their job(s).....lose their ability to do this or that.....demand that sponsors drop them.....etc., but when a black guy does something......the black community either ignores it and doesn't say a thing against that person.......or they come out and talk about giving so and so a second chance....it is unreal.

This country talks about bridging race relations and bringing people together......every couple of years we get a case like this and down the racial line it goes no matter how it starts....and race relations are set back another 10 years.....as far as I'm concerned, race relations will never be mended....some crazed white PETA member might as well just shoot this piece of chit in the head and set this country back another 50 years....not like it would matter anyway. The majority of white people will call a piece of chit a piece of chit regardless of the color of his skin.....when black people as a whole start doing the same, then and only then will race relations will begin to mend.

 

[fatdaddycool]

This is no longer about animals, this is about race.....just like every other high profile case goes in this country.


OJ.....started out as murder.....ended up racial.

Duke Lacrosse.....started out as an alleged rape...........black people....black activists....black panthers..... made it racial.....and then tucked tail and disappeared without so much as offering an apology for what they did to those kids when it came out as a total BS story made up by a crackheaded ho.

Imus......started out as a dumb comment......turned big time racial.

Mike Vick.....started out as dog fighting, etc......and now it is pretty much divided along racial lines.



The thing that pisses off white people in this country is the fact that black people will jump on a white person (Imus or the Duke players) and demand that "said" person or persons lose their job(s).....lose their ability to do this or that.....demand that sponsors drop them.....etc., but when a black guy does something......the black community either ignores it and doesn't say a thing against that person.......or they come out and talk about giving so and so a second chance....it is unreal.

This country talks about bridging race relations and bringing people together......every couple of years we get a case like this and down the racial line it goes no matter how it starts....and race relations are set back another 10 years.....as far as I'm concerned, race relations will never be mended....some crazed white PETA member might as well just shoot this piece of chit in the head and set this country back another 50 years....not like it would matter anyway. The majority of white people will call a piece of chit a piece of chit regardless of the color of his skin.....when black people as a whole start doing the same, then and only then will race relations will begin to mend.

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[mcity]

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not quite sure what that means?

 

[smurphy]

This is no longer about animals, this is about race.....just like every other high profile case goes in this country.


OJ.....started out as murder.....ended up racial.

Duke Lacrosse.....started out as an alleged rape...........black people....black activists....black panthers..... made it racial.....and then tucked tail and disappeared without so much as offering an apology for what they did to those kids when it came out as a total BS story made up by a crackheaded ho.

Imus......started out as a dumb comment......turned big time racial.

Mike Vick.....started out as dog fighting, etc......and now it is pretty much divided along racial lines.



The thing that pisses off white people in this country is the fact that black people will jump on a white person (Imus or the Duke players) and demand that "said" person or persons lose their job(s).....lose their ability to do this or that.....demand that sponsors drop them.....etc., but when a black guy does something......the black community either ignores it and doesn't say a thing against that person.......or they come out and talk about giving so and so a second chance....it is unreal.

This country talks about bridging race relations and bringing people together......every couple of years we get a case like this and down the racial line it goes no matter how it starts....and race relations are set back another 10 years.....as far as I'm concerned, race relations will never be mended....some crazed white PETA member might as well just shoot this piece of chit in the head and set this country back another 50 years....not like it would matter anyway. The majority of white people will call a piece of chit a piece of chit regardless of the color of his skin.....when black people as a whole start doing the same, then and only then will race relations will begin to mend.

I disagree that race has much to do with this one. I think there are a few idiots (like Marbury) that divide by those lines, but there is no significant support for Vick. The overwhelming majority of all Americans, whatever color, know Vick f'ed up and deserves the penalties that come his way.

I think you are seeing some great divide that doesn't really exist in this case.

 

[smurphy]

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[smurphy]

....some crazed white PETA member might as well just shoot this piece of chit in the head and set this country back another 50 years....not like it would matter anyway..

OK, Dogs That Bark.

It's barely been a generation since Jim Crow laws were eliminated. You might wanna just relax a bit before giving up all hope.

 

[fatdaddycool]

not quite sure what that means?

exactly

 

[Terryray]

more geniuses chime in

more geniuses chime in

Jamie "the brains" Foxx was interviewed recently by Access Hollywood?s Shaun Robinson:


Although Vick has been almost universally condemned since agreeing to plead guilty to dog fighting conspiracy, according to Foxx, people should not be so quick to judge the NFL star.

?It?s a cultural thing, I think,? Jamie said. ?Most brothers didn?t know that, you know. I used to see dogs fighting in the neighborhood all the time. I didn?t know that was Fed time. So, Mike probably just didn?t read his handbook on what not to do as a black star.?

While he has a way of lightening even the most sensitive of subjects, Jamie is sincere in his belief that the quarterback is not being given a fair shake.

?I know that cruelty to animals is bad, but sometimes people shoot people and kill people and don?t get time,? Jamie continued. ?I think in this situation, he really didn?t know the extent of it, so I always give him the benefit of the doubt.?