HOW CAN THE NEW HEALTHCARE BILL HELP ME
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Here is the deal. They could hire me to be in charge of fraud , medicare, soc sec , all of it.
Pay me .05% of the fraud I find, save , and stop.
I would be a millionaire like some of the dirty 237 Congressmen.
So the question is, If I can do it . ............
You'd be a rich man... AND paying an additional 5.4% of your income to pay for other people's healthcare.......
Not a bad tradeoff, in that situation....
Your Making waaaay too much sense here for most Mags
If given time to break down this massive amount of legislation and give folks opportunity to digest it--it won't float.
However if they use the the urgent have to pass today ploy like they did on stimulus--they might slide anything by.
Remember the stimulus plan--If we don't pass this plan right now--unemployment could reach 8% by end of year :SIB
Lets see from Obie's own site what the priority of spendind on STIMULUS has been--
Ovehttp://www.recovery.gov/Pages/home.aspxrview of Funding
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 distributes the $787 billion as follows:
Source for Distributing and Reporting: US Treasury, Federal Agency Financial and Activity Reports
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Pretty good job on those entitlements--wonder how many jobs they produced other than more gov employees to distibute them.
Somehow I see little change from the ole liberal tax/spend/regulate/--larger government -with exception it is on a unprecedented scale and at a time in history we can least afford it. As they say--
"never let a good crisis go to waste" :nooo:
I get the way they have been screwing us for 30 years.
not one President got close to passing reform.
not one President got close to passing reform.
Scott:
I assume by "reform", you mean insurance reform, not healthcare reform, correct?
Regarding insurance reform, there have been plenty of reforms enacted by states throughout history. I can point to one you may have heard of:
HIPAA: This monumental legislation GUARANTEED that individual insured's could not be cancelled due to their individual health status, and provided numerous protections of the individual, such as privacy of medical records and conditions.
I'd say that is reform.
My opinion - we need HEALTH reform more than INSURANCE reform. Certainly the current system does need some changes. Access to healthcare needs to be available to all. However, I don't agree that the DEM's plan is the way to do it, that's all.
HEALTH reform - we need to incent people to lead healthier lifestyles - and the only way to do it is to do so financially.
I found it humorous that "O" said it is OK to charge more for tobacco use, as that is a lifestyle issue. However, the segment that will cost us the most in the long run, and one that is growing day by day (forgive the pun) is OBESITY and being overweight.
We should charge premiums with respect to either 1) maintaining an appropriate body weight if one has such already, or 2) provide discounts if one who is obsese shows progress in reducing weight over a given year. Conversely, if someone adds weight (BMI) or if they are already obese, do not show progress, then they should pay more. If we are subsidizing people for healthcare, then those same folks (actually all of us) bear a reciprocal responsibility to do what we can to keep overall costs down. Body weight is something we all can control (with a few noted exceptional conditions) - it's just that many of us choose not to.
Obesity costs will continue to worsen and will easily dwarf tobacco related illnesses.
Why didn't "O" endorse this approach, while still going after smokers? He is a smart man - he knows tobacco users are only 15% of the population (read voters). However, stats show that well over 50% of the American public are overweight.
But if we are talking reform, the emphasis should be on controlling costs. And as much as you like to pick on the insurance industry, the real cost drivers are us - and the unhealthy lifestyles that we lead in this country.
That is where the focus should be. That would save costs. Having the government run the system will not save costs. It will actually increase them and shift them. Another entitlement program that we don't need.
And what are entitlement programs? Nothing more than forced charity. It sure would be nice if we all could decide what to do with those dollars - I believe strongly in charity - and I'd love to have those entitlement dollars that are stolen from me and allow me, as the income earner, to decide what and who that money should go to.
Seems like that should be my right since I earned the money, doesn't it???
Ok, this got long and all over the place. Done now. Have a good day!
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I am talking about the whole fawking industry of theieves. Doctors, Drug Com, Ins Companys,
the ones that have been making millions off the public for 30 years or more.
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HIPPA didnt do shit if thats all it covered. Who cares if they cant cancel you if you cant get affordable insurance in the first place.
They sell us a pill for 4 dollars that they make for
five cents . And they been doing that with their pill foolery for so many years. No its not generic
you will have to pay full price on that .
what a fawking joke.
I am amazed that America has been so stupid for so llong.
If the Reoublicans have any say , it will continue as is. Thats the way they want it.
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Scott:
I apologize. I had assumed that you were capable of having an intelligent discussion about the issues without the bad language and making it a partisan issue. You clearly have a strong opinion without a strong understanding of the industry - or healthcare in general. I understand - it would be the same thing if I would complain about, say, the auto industry or the gas/oil industry. From the outside looking in, it always looks like people are getting ripped off. Of course, the phrase "walk a mile in their shoes" typically applies. I had thought this would be an interesting, intellectual discussion. I was wrong.
I'll refrain from responding to your posts in the future. I have no interest in getting into the heated debates, the mudslinging, the bad language, etc that has been prevalent in these forums. Just not my thing, I guess.
You seem to not be a happy person - with a lot of negativity. I really hope things go better for you in the future. Have a good day.
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You are gonna have to use all your gambling winnings to pay for all this health care for the poor. Ohh wait. Sorry. You are gonna have to think of a different method.
what is your issue with me:shrug: go fuck your dog and leave me alone, how the fuck do you know anything about me? I got more money in my checking account than you have net worth boy. gambling is just a fun thing for me. I dont like Hollywood, because they are such liberals like you, in fact I have watched 1 movie in 3 years, No Country for Old Men, I bet on sports for entertainment thats it, if I win its a bonus, start posting your picks and then you can talk shit, until then stfu.
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I'm not going to leave you around you racist motherfucker. Get used to it.
You don't know shit about me. I do know you are a real insecure moronic guy.
I will talk shit whenever I want. You suck at betting and in life. Get used to being called out on it you piece of shit.
go shoot yourself asshole, how old are you? 17 or 18 is my guess, you have no clue what being a parent is, making a mortgage payment, you have no clue about life, all you want is for everything to be paid for you, like all the rest of the worthless democrats in this country.
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I can see the steam rising over Hedgy's head as his wife looks on. :142smilie
What kind of husband are you anyway? It sounds like your home life is a thrill a minute. No movies! Those damn liberals! LOL
Every post you make just confirms the image we all see of you Hedgy. You really shouldn't reveal anymore. We can't take it.
What kind of husband are you anyway? It sounds like your home life is a thrill a minute. No movies! Those damn liberals! LOL
Every post you make just confirms the image we all see of you Hedgy. You really shouldn't reveal anymore. We can't take it.
I stayed home today with my 5 month old little one that was sick and took him to the doctor. That is the kind of guy I am.
I hate Hollywood with a passion, all those worthless liberals are not going to get one penny from me the rest of my life. I hate movies all they are is propaganda for the liberal movement in this country, therefore they get nothing from me. Fuck em
