I feel ya rocky, been a year of the worst beats I've experienced. so bad I could almost call the beat before it happens...
How the hell?
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Its funny. I went for the last 5 weeks and went from -1500 up to 3g, no more than $100 a game, en fuego. Now I'm second guessing , dicking around, carlessly gave back $1,800 profit in the last week, like a complete jack-ass. Actually, come to think of it, its not funny, time for a zanax and Dexter!
Obviously vegas had a big stake last night with the public. It happens every single week in the NFL. Keep watching closely and youll see some very strange things happen in the NFL. The trick is to stay off the public side of games especially down the stretch in the NFL. There is way too much money at stake for there not to be shannanigans that creep in. Big Money always = corruption.
Let me say it one more time, 1st vegas is the last place to fix a game, they are watched by gaming comm tighter then ft.knox, they also make way to much cash on gaming in 1 week then a whole season of fixed sports bets could offset their take. also they are not the main fish offshore and bookies take in way more action then vegas, vegas is not even 1/4 of the action a bookie or offshore sees in a day, and my numbers are on track.
Also a player in any major pro sport is not about to risk what they make by fixing 1 game, this is not the big MOB running things like back to about the late 70's a few games were messed with since then and all were helped out to expose the fix by who, well vegas. Some guys said they were mob tied who had in's on playing the fix but they were small fish wanta be bookies or someone who knew someone who knew someone who might be on the in. Unless public exposed anyone who says they are in with the mob or has mob ties beining, russian, tally or mick ran teams are full of shit, none of them talk , not knocking you EB not at all have seen things said all year and for a long time about this and same as public plays, I get college and nfl game% from a sports book dir. out here and used to post them early sat. I get them about 3 am sat. and they are very different what you see on sites, games are watched lot on parlays and round robins of 3's and 4's more then sides or totals because this is how a book gets crushed by a group, the numbers get changed fast due to these.
Once again just want to make clear not attacking anyone, just trying to give some insight on what goes on behind the doors out here and why, also the % i get is on all books in vegas each book has a feed that shows what is going on where on a screen, which no-one can get out here or on except a book dir. or asst dir, after that gaming control has to give the ok to go into it by someone else even the ceo or casino owner , they are ran by a pass word that is watched by gaming control.
Also a player in any major pro sport is not about to risk what they make by fixing 1 game, this is not the big MOB running things like back to about the late 70's a few games were messed with since then and all were helped out to expose the fix by who, well vegas. Some guys said they were mob tied who had in's on playing the fix but they were small fish wanta be bookies or someone who knew someone who knew someone who might be on the in. Unless public exposed anyone who says they are in with the mob or has mob ties beining, russian, tally or mick ran teams are full of shit, none of them talk , not knocking you EB not at all have seen things said all year and for a long time about this and same as public plays, I get college and nfl game% from a sports book dir. out here and used to post them early sat. I get them about 3 am sat. and they are very different what you see on sites, games are watched lot on parlays and round robins of 3's and 4's more then sides or totals because this is how a book gets crushed by a group, the numbers get changed fast due to these.
Once again just want to make clear not attacking anyone, just trying to give some insight on what goes on behind the doors out here and why, also the % i get is on all books in vegas each book has a feed that shows what is going on where on a screen, which no-one can get out here or on except a book dir. or asst dir, after that gaming control has to give the ok to go into it by someone else even the ceo or casino owner , they are ran by a pass word that is watched by gaming control.
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Fletcher, I agree with alot of what you said but I am interested in this question. Not trying to be a wise guy. And I don't even care if the games are fixed or not. But in your experience and things you hear do you think the Gaming Commision is honest?
Very honest, the last thing any place or person wants is gaming control up their ass. They are like the irs , no-one likes them . They have worked for players and for the casinos for a long time to make sure everything is ran fair. it was not always like that back in the pre-80's early 80 some what , gaming control could be got to by a few at times. now that vegas is more as a corp. world and world wide gaming spot they watch it like a hawk. getting a job with them is like a back ground check for fbi,nsa or cia. it is unreal. To lose a gamming lic. or to be black-booked or even under their scope is death to a casino, or a person or persons or both. Very harsh treatment by the state if your caught screwing around and could also be the demise of a major corp. and shareholders if they lost their lic.
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thanks fletcher..
get so sick and tired of reading these lame ass post about public side,fixes,ref on the take..etc..etc..etc..
some don't have a friggin clue..
example..off shore wagering is second only to gambling among friends and buddies..
more money changes hands in these two fashions than Vegas could ever dream of handling..
thanks again fletcher..
nice to get a response from somebody who actually knows what the hell is going on..
get so sick and tired of reading these lame ass post about public side,fixes,ref on the take..etc..etc..etc..
some don't have a friggin clue..
example..off shore wagering is second only to gambling among friends and buddies..
more money changes hands in these two fashions than Vegas could ever dream of handling..
thanks again fletcher..
nice to get a response from somebody who actually knows what the hell is going on..
Fletcher, this is one thing I disagree on with you... I think every other point you've made I believe to be true when it comes to your info coming for casinos or sports dir, book dir, etc....
The public is finding out what IMO we already knew but just refused to believe... Shit is FIXED all the time... And its almost IMPOSSIBLE to prove that the kicker didnt tell someone that he would shank it to keep it under, or the coach told him to, or if it was discussed... N.O. obviously, like the LAL team in NBA, are good enough to turn on and turn off and make other teams their puppets...
I just saw THE REAL SPORTS BRYANT GUMBALL about BATTISTA (guy involved with Donaghy NBA ref betting scandal) and he answered more questions (indirectly and directly) about how rigged chit was... And he admitted only to 4 months AND what I love about that guy is his INTEGRITY and HE DIDNT RAT...Very few people are like him; I can take pride in saying Ive done THE EXACT same thing when put in the same position years before. It cost me time (6 mos more), but I can die a man and not a rat. But Im getting off track.
My point is, that fixes are going on, ALL DAY EVERYDAY... Figuring out which game, or which way its going, I dont know exactly how to do it...
But, MANY A TIME, (WAY MORE THAN 50% COIN FLIP AVG), I have posted hey, 80%+ on this team this way, and presto, it comes down to the last 2 min of the game and SOME HUGE BULLSHIT FAVOR OR NON FAVORABLE CALL MAKES SURE THE PUBLIC DOESNT COVER... TIME AND TIME AGAIN... Much more in the book's favor than the players.
I just wanted to put my 2 cents in and say, I disagree and believe wholeheartedly that the games are fixed alot of the time, and I have changed a majority of my systems based on that thinking and continue to, IMO, be winning BECAUSE OF THE FIX.... Not because Im a genious capper, but because I figured out which way the BOOK WANTS it, and I bet on that they have the edge, above and beyond the juice bonus.
And, its ok for me and you to agree to disagree...
you ain't lying..that kick was missed on purpose..he even smirked after he missed it..
I did NOT bet on last nights game. BUT, I will admit that the o/u looked FIXED. Seems like more bets were on the over and it should have gone over. But Brees, who had been on fire all night totally overthrows a receiver in the end zone. Then, the kicker shanks what would have been an EASY field goal. Then, the Pats put in their backup QB right after. :shrug: I kept thinking these over bettors are f**ked....
Why risk injury to Brady when game is over,but not the season.Pulling Brady was the smart thing to do.
