I am Adam Lanza's mother....

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"While every family's story of mental illness is different, and we may never know the whole of the Lanza's story, tales like this one need to be heard -- and families who live them deserve our help."

A sobering read....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...er-mental-illness-conversation_n_2311009.html

This story rings so true. My daughter is older. She had her worst episodes after graduating the Culinary Institute of America, with honors. We knew she had problems growing up. We had her to shrinks, talked to the school all said she was just acting like a teenage girl. We knew it was worse but we could not get anyone to listen.

She went to college and although she had a few problems there for the most part she was ok.

Just before graduation she started showing really bad signs of something. Anger, towards everyone.

Once she graduated the shit hit the fan. She could not hold a job. She went to see shrinks from Mass General Hospital. One thing led to another. At one time they had her on 7 mood stabilizers.

One they put her on had a very bad affect right away. She went to see her therapist who sent her home because she was being delusional. Sent her home like it was her fault. This was on a Thursday. We saw her on Sunday. I said this is crazy. She had an appointment with the prescription shrink, yes they are different people.

This one said she could take her off of the pill she just put her on. I asked what else she could take her off. She mentioned one. I said what does that do? She said "Nothing." I said why is she on it? She said I don't know she was on it when she got here.

I asked her why I had to come how come she did not get the message that she was delusional, I asked if she talked to the therapist. She said no.

Long and short she ended up on Suicide Watch that day. Did two weeks at McLains.

We found a new doctor, recomended by my wives hair dresser! This doctor seems to be a bit better. She has diagnosed various disorders. My daughter is doing better. Not great but better.

Mental Health in this country is a nightmare!
 

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That article was the most well written, well thought out piece I have read in a long time.

Whoever she is, she needs to be a writer.

So sorry for her son and his mental illness.

I honestly never thought of it that way as I have never experienced anyone with a mental illness on that scale.



Thank you for posting.
 

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was treatment or options available for mentally ill better years ago? certainly mental health issues arent a new thing so why has this sort of thing only been happening in more recent years?
 

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I feel bad for this mother. I can't imagine how hard that is and I do have some first hand experience with it. My sister has some issues and has been in a few mental health facilities.

I really believe that a big part of the problem with these people is all the drugs they put them on. For my sister is started with depression and a few differenent scripts to help. It seems like it's been a downward spiral since then. She's been on anything and everything. She's tried to kill herself several times.

I don't know mental health drugs but I do know a lot about steroids, test and the endocrine system and to me the brain is much like that. Once you take one thing and get your endocrine system out of whack it's pretty hard to get it back on track. My wifes office sees a lot of the guys that go to the places that "get you back to your youth." They put you on test and from there who knows what happens. There are so many factors that come in to play and once a guy screws his body up there's a good chance he'll be on meds forever to maintain what he has.

I don't know if it is but I can only imagine the human brain is the same way as the endcrine system. Once you send down one path it's hard to get it back.

Maybe thru these shootings and problems we're facing there will be more studies into mental health and how to help those with problems.

Stevie, sorry to hear about your daughter.
 

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no,i`m just making a point...actually,i think airportis made the point...and he made it perfectly....

what airportis said was brilliant...:0074

"was treatment or options available for mentally ill better years ago? certainly mental health issues arent a new thing so why has this sort of thing only been happening in more recent years?".....

obviously,treatment of mental illness is better today than it was .....

let me repost my post from the thread on the subject...

back in the 30`s you could buy sub machineguns at sears...up until around `68 you could buy mortars through the mail..and i don`t recall any crazies lobbing mortar rounds into schools.....

it`s a modern societal problem,imo...and .if you`re really serious about addressing the problem you`ll have to address the cause,not just the method...fact is,we live in a culture that`s saturated with violence abd violent images....

hollywood and video games don`t promote a culture of violence?....
of course they do...so let`s do it right...lets ban every war movie...every western...every sci-fi movie...every cops and robbers flick that even alludes to guns or violence...some people obviously can`t handle it,so take it away from everybody...just to be on the safe side....

anybody think hollywood `ll go for that?..they`ll sacrifice the second amendment and take the inanimate object,but they won`t sacrifice their first amendment rights for the good of society......no sir

while we`re at it,lets ban all violent sports...people are getting too many concussions...it`s a bad influence on those that are too sensitive for such things...these players obviously can`t make decisions for themselves....so,lets do it for them...after all,we know best....


matter of fact,lets give total control of the internet over to the u.n. so we can be sure that all these skulls full of mush can`t be corrupted...everything government controlled so the producing ,sharing,distributing of any of these materials can be controlled by political bureaucrats....

oh,and big gulps,too.....

you want to live like that?.....i don`t......it`s a slippery slope.....

don`t believe me?....take it from your buddy spongey....

" Those who give up liberty for security deserve neither" - Benjamin Franklin


it`s obviously our culture....it`s violent....the question is,do you want to totally change our culture because theres no way you can keep weapons or methods of mass destruction out of the hands of the mentally ill/evil?....and hope that it eliminates these kinds of tragedies...

do you want that kind of restrictive society or don`t you?....you willing to give up some freedom?
 

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thanks for posting, good read...I hope neither of my kids turn out to be like this, talk about a nightmare
 

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I feel bad for this mother. I can't imagine how hard that is and I do have some first hand experience with it. My sister has some issues and has been in a few mental health facilities.

I really believe that a big part of the problem with these people is all the drugs they put them on. For my sister is started with depression and a few differenent scripts to help. It seems like it's been a downward spiral since then. She's been on anything and everything. She's tried to kill herself several times.
I don't know mental health drugs but I do know a lot about steroids, test and the endocrine system and to me the brain is much like that. Once you take one thing and get your endocrine system out of whack it's pretty hard to get it back on track. My wifes office sees a lot of the guys that go to the places that "get you back to your youth." They put you on test and from there who knows what happens. There are so many factors that come in to play and once a guy screws his body up there's a good chance he'll be on meds forever to maintain what he has.

I don't know if it is but I can only imagine the human brain is the same way as the endcrine system. Once you send down one path it's hard to get it back.

Maybe thru these shootings and problems we're facing there will be more studies into mental health and how to help those with problems.

Stevie, sorry to hear about your daughter.

Layinwood. It is basically the same thing with my daughter. I did some research on this. They do just prescribe drugs until they have these poor people on so many meds they don't know what is going on.
Everytime thery find one of these Hollywood suicides they are always on a multitude of Prescription drugs.

Mental Health is not better today it is worse than it used to be. I had shrinks tell me they wouldn't even try to diagnose my daughter because it doesn't make any difference what they call it! :scared

Sorry for your sister and you and your family and everybody who cares about her.
 

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Layinwood. It is basically the same thing with my daughter. I did some research on this. They do just prescribe drugs until they have these poor people on so many meds they don't know what is going on.
Everytime thery find one of these Hollywood suicides they are always on a multitude of Prescription drugs.

Mental Health is not better today it is worse than it used to be. I had shrinks tell me they wouldn't even try to diagnose my daughter because it doesn't make any difference what they call it! :scared

Sorry for your sister and you and your family and everybody who cares about her.

from your story seems like around her late teens early 20s is when things got really bad?

have they gotten worse over time or stayed about the same or gotten a little better?

maybe there is an age range where these disorders peak?
 

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from your story seems like around her late teens early 20s is when things got really bad?

have they gotten worse over time or stayed about the same or gotten a little better?

maybe there is an age range where these disorders peak?

Late teens early 20's were the worst. Just as her college was ending and she was going to join the real world. I have read that those times are the worst. Now, don't forget, the earlier years were not picnics either.
My daughter was out of control. She is doing better now. Under the treatment of a new doctor, who took her off of all the meds she was on and started her on others. We had a setback as she was infected with very large kidney stones which had to be surgically removed because of one of the meds. So she is presently being weaned off of that.
 

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was treatment or options available for mentally ill better years ago? certainly mental health issues arent a new thing so why has this sort of thing only been happening in more recent years?

I have so many thoughts and opinions on this issue; I'll only give what I think is applicable to your question.

Yes, there was a lot of mental health treatment in the past. Actually, I think it was more defined and there were more resources, but that doesn't mean it was better. A mentally ill person was labelled. It was a stigma. They were isolated, they didn't go to school, they were removed from their families and homes (not a Gestapo type moved, but families were convinced it was best), and they lived in institutions referred to as state hospitals or more commonly as insane assylums. I can't imagine what sort of hell those places were to reside in.

The problem of mental illness was brushed under the rug (really it still is). People disappeared. Nobody talked about them. They were essentially gone forever destined to live a life being "crazy".

Today, we don't like to label sick people. Many were misdiagnosed in the past and societally, we learned from that. Autism, Asberger's, schizophrenia, drug abuse, PTSD, et al are diagnosed and treated now. Treated affectively? Not really. Labelled? Sometimes. Mainstreamed? Almost always. Troubled and laden with problems? Most definitely.

I see it on a daily basis at work. What I see are mentally unstable patients who have secondary complications necessitating their admission to the hospital. They are young. They are old. We treat and street, and they go back to their living arrangement and $600 a month check and get admitted again in a month for Another ailment. Rinse, recycle, repeat. Sad but true. If I had to make an educated guess, I would say that 30-50% of the hospital inpatients I care for are in some way mentally ill, and 75% of them are not being treated appropriately for their mental illness.

Mental health care in the USA is a complete joke. Idk what the answer is. I just know that it is broken now. I know that I personally have become so frustrated by mental health issues that I have become somewhat callous, and that's not who I am. I care for and love my fellow man. I want to help. It's my life and my vocation. I feel helpless all the time to be able to help those who need it. So sad...

Sorry for the diatribe airportis. I have a lot of other thoughts too, but I have learned to keep some things to myself here so as not to get the conversation off track.
 

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as honest and informative a post as I have read in my years here at MJ's.

SixFive, thank you.
 

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Today, we look back at the theories and methods used to treat mental issues, and we laugh.

50 years from now, people will do the same about today's methods.

These medications make some of the users 'tolerable' for society.....not better mentally.
 

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I have so many thoughts and opinions on this issue; I'll only give what I think is applicable to your question.

Yes, there was a lot of mental health treatment in the past. Actually, I think it was more defined and there were more resources, but that doesn't mean it was better. A mentally ill person was labelled. It was a stigma. They were isolated, they didn't go to school, they were removed from their families and homes (not a Gestapo type moved, but families were convinced it was best), and they lived in institutions referred to as state hospitals or more commonly as insane assylums. I can't imagine what sort of hell those places were to reside in.

The problem of mental illness was brushed under the rug (really it still is). People disappeared. Nobody talked about them. They were essentially gone forever destined to live a life being "crazy".

Today, we don't like to label sick people. Many were misdiagnosed in the past and societally, we learned from that. Autism, Asberger's, schizophrenia, drug abuse, PTSD, et al are diagnosed and treated now. Treated affectively? Not really. Labelled? Sometimes. Mainstreamed? Almost always. Troubled and laden with problems? Most definitely.

I see it on a daily basis at work. What I see are mentally unstable patients who have secondary complications necessitating their admission to the hospital. They are young. They are old. We treat and street, and they go back to their living arrangement and $600 a month check and get admitted again in a month for Another ailment. Rinse, recycle, repeat. Sad but true. If I had to make an educated guess, I would say that 30-50% of the hospital inpatients I care for are in some way mentally ill, and 75% of them are not being treated appropriately for their mental illness.

Mental health care in the USA is a complete joke. Idk what the answer is. I just know that it is broken now. I know that I personally have become so frustrated by mental health issues that I have become somewhat callous, and that's not who I am. I care for and love my fellow man. I want to help. It's my life and my vocation. I feel helpless all the time to be able to help those who need it. So sad...

Sorry for the diatribe airportis. I have a lot of other thoughts too, but I have learned to keep some things to myself here so as not to get the conversation off track.

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good read

my sister is a ICU nurse.

we have had discussions like this. It gets to her also to feel helpless to help ppl with mental issues.
 
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