I Feel a Draft: Chicago Bears

[Vegas Dave]

Believe it or not, I don't think the bears are too far off from being a playoff team like they were just a season ago. They were decimated by injury at many positions that left this team stripped down like.....like.....a stripper. On offense the problem has been the same for a few years now, but only in this offseason have the Bears finally decided to seriously look at a decent QB. Jim Miller is finally gone, and I mean FINALLY. The receivers on this team are above average with Marty Booker and David Terrell but they need a solid QB to wake this offense up. Last year the running game suffered greatly mostly due to the fact that they were playing from behind most of the time, and also that their pitiful passing game was practically non-existant. Most of the defense's core should remain, but there is another problem I believe they should address, which is alot less documented compared to their Quarterback quandary, is their Cornerback conundrum. You can pass the ball all day against this defense and you won't have any problem. Just watch for Mike Brown, make sure you pick up a blitz, and even Herman Moore would be able to burn these guys. They need some help here and should probaby get some in the second round.

I think they will either trade up for Palmer if Cincinnatti doesn't want him, or take Byron Leftwich who should be available at the spot that they are drafting.

 

[Valuist]

Angelo doesn't believe in using a 4th pick in the draft for a QB. They probably will go after one in the 2nd or 3rd round, maybe a guy like Ragone or Boller.

Instead they have their sights set on Jake Plummer. Why? I have no idea. With Denver set to release Griese, here's some of the QBs they could go after:
Griese 71 TDs 53 INT 84.1 QB rating
Blake 119 TDs 83 INT 79.2 QB rating
Stewart 70 TDs 72 INT 72.3 QB rating
Plummer 90 TDs 114 INT 69.0 QB rating

What is the fascination with Plummer?? I don't get it. How can this guy command big contracts? Is everyone assuming that because his supporting cast was awful he'll automatically turn things around with a different team?

 

[Vegas Dave]

I think the thing with Plummer is that he has never really been given a chance to succeed. His supporting cast wasn't as bad as you might think, but the defense is awful. Therefore, he is always throwing when the other team knows he's going to throw. I think he still has alot to prove, but he might turn out to be quite productive. I like Griese too, but he IS in a position to succeed, but has not done it. He has had solid receivers, solid defense, and numerous solid running backs, but can't seem to get this team over the hump.

Anyways, either one of these guys would be an upgrade from Jim Miller.

 

[Hoops]

I've been a huge fan of Plummer's since his ASU's days, but it's quite clear...the guy isn't going to be a good NFL QB. Horrible decision maker and lack of arm strength keep him from being anything more than mediocre at best.

 

[Valuist]

Vegas Dave-

I don't view Plummer as an upgrade over Miller or Chandler. Miller wasn't great but he is injury prone, and you can't keep two injury plagued QBs on the same roster. I put Plummer in the Rodney Peete category.

 

[c20916]

Well plummer went to Denver which is probably a good thing, now I just hope the bears don't offer Kordell, I am just not a fan of his. I don't think he is that good of a QB. I hope they wait to get Greise but waiting till July is a long time, it might take him awhile to learn the offense.

The bears will definatley take a def player in round 1, I hope they get Suggs, that would be a nice addition on the end. If not the DT from Penn state will probably be thier other option.

 

[Vegas Dave]

Well doesn't anyone remember Jake the Snake? and his come from behind victories? My point is simply this: Although he looks mediocre, its possible that there is some potential left. With Jim Miller, there is no potential. He is a very average quarterback, and nothing more. At least Plummer can scramble.....too late now.

As for drafting the D-line, I think this team is fine on defensive line and could use help in the secondary. But once again (and I highly disagree with this) they will probably draft the best talent available, and not draft talent for the position they need.

 

[Valuist]

Jack Plummer: 69 QB rating.

I realize there have been guys like Rich Gannon who've become stars late in their careers but I don't see it with this guy. At least Jeff Blake is a has-been who's had a few good years. Plummer is a never-was.

 

[Vegas Dave]

I think Shanahan knows how to evaluate talent. Just ask him where he drafted Gary, Portis, Anderson and Terrell Davis.

All I'm saying is that I would take Plummer over Jim Miller. The Bears need a franchise QB, and unless they draft one, guys like Blake or Kordell Stewart are just a temporary solution. If even that....

Defense is still their strength when they are healthy, why wouldn't they draft for a position where they are short talent such as QB? They don't need to use the first round pick, but I would be surprised if Chicago didn't use one of their picks to get a QB prospect.

 

[c20916]

If the draft goes the way the so called experts are saying it will, the bears will for sure draft a QB w/ thier second pick. I hope the kid from CA falls to the 2nd round, I don't think he will if he does that will be a good pick up for the bears.

 

[Valuist]

Now that they've signed Slash, they may still take a QB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds but definitely not with the 4th pick. Its under even money that they will take the DE Suggs from Arizona State.

 

[Vegas Dave]

Now its fairly clear that they won't draft a QB. Suggs is an outstanding athlete, but he is not their most pressing need.

 

[THE KOD]

Looks like the Bears are going to be satisfied with Kordell Stewart. I heard a rumor that he is gay and that was a big problem in Pittsbergh. Along with his big decline in performance.
Well at least you got Chandler if Stewart goes down.


Scott King of Dogs

 

[Kdogg21]

I think the key about Plummer was that he has had 21 4th quater comebacks. Thats preety damn good considering the team he was on. Elway had 56, and he was the master of the 4th quarter.


Stewart should do preety good. I think you'll see a improvement no matter what. I guarentee though the bears still will draft a quarterback.

 

[Kane of TN]

IMHO, I do not think Stewart is the answer to the Bears QB needs. Cowher put a lot into making a good QB out of him and there were some glimmers of hope, but it never really panned out.

Good thing is they only signed him to a 2 year deal. He might be a good backup-backup when Crystal Chandelier gets broke, but it seems to me they still have to draft a QB early.

 

[Vegas Dave]

Scott that is some funny stuff.....

I'd keep Jim Miller over Special K. The Bears better draft a QB because Kordell isn't the answer to anything.....


Last I heard Chicago was on the phone with Scott Mitchell asking him to make a comeback.....:lol: :lol2

 

[THE KOD]

IMHO, I do not think Stewart is the answer to the Bears QB needs. Cowher put a lot into making a good QB out of him and there were some glimmers of hope, but it never really panned out.

He might be a good backup-backup when Crystal Chandelier gets broke, but it seems to me they still have to draft a QB early.

I would have to disagree when you said that Bill Cowher made Stewart into a good QB.

The only way a coach can make a QB any better is by putting a good team around them and having solid coaching staffs.

At the NFL level the QB either has it or he don't.

And the fact of the matter is, Kordell Stewart don't have what it takes to win championships. If he did he wouldn't have lost his starting job with the Steelers.

I believe that the Bears will not have the guts to take a high pick QB and will rely on Stewart.

They will take the best player available which will be a huge mistake.


Scott King of Dogs

 

[Vegas Dave]

Originally posted by Scott-Atlanta
They will take the best player available which will be a huge mistake.

I'm glad somebody agrees with me on this. Why do teams just draft for best guy available? What is the point of the Colts drafting another QB EVEN IF he is projected to be the next Peyton Manning? If you have talent at the position, don't draft more. Draft to a position where you need help.

Ahhh.......whatever.......nobody ever listens anyways.

 

[THE KOD]

I'm glad somebody agrees with me on this. Why do teams just draft for best guy available? What is the point of the Colts drafting another QB EVEN IF he is projected to be the next Peyton Manning? If you have talent at the position, don't draft more. Draft to a position where you need help.

Ahhh.......whatever.......nobody ever listens anyways.

I never have figured out why they do this but then we arent there under the gun like they are. I hope to use some of this type of thinking to win in NFL this year.

Hey Vegas ..... what would you consider to be your home or favorite team ?

would you consider working with us in NFL weekly Match up forum this coming season ?

you post good info. All you got to do is take a homer team for you that you know like the back of your hand and give us one pick a week. Side, totals , moneyline play for that one team.
kcwolf is doing his chiefs.

we are circling the wagons and ganging up on the books. We intend to stomp on some book ass this year in the NFL.

what ya say ?

Scott King of Dogs

 

[Vegas Dave]

Thank you for the kind words.....

I'm not a homer of any team in any sport. It was one of the first things I learned when I started betting is to throw sentiment out of the window. I cheer for different teams every year, and different teams every week depending on where my money is.

I live up in Canada, maybe I can cover the Toronto Argonauts for you?

I will gladly post all of the insight I have on any team, and I will glady post my picks in the upcoming season.