If they strike will you come back?

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I know if they strike I'am going to tell myself that this is it and it is getting ridiculous with these greedy players who should try to live in the real world.

But I know when the strike is over again I will be back. It is my kryptonite, I love following and watching baseball to much.
What about you guys??


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Screw them & their 162 days/3 hour per day "job" where the average salary is $ 2,000,000 +.Bring on football.:fingerc: :fingerc:
 

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Good question.

As a former baseball fan who once read box scores faithfully each day, and who has attended well over 100 major league games (years ago), I no longer have ANY interest in this sport from a fan's perspective. If it were not for me betting on the games, I would not watch the sport. Not a single game. Whether they strike or not is of no concern to me, other than how it affects my opportunities to wager on it.

I told myself several years ago that if these athletes are going to treat the game AS A BUSINESS, then I'm going to do the same thing. P layers are cogs in a wheel, and teams are nothing more than shares of common stock as far as I'm concerned. If the Yankees or Devil Rays win the World Series, I couldn't care less. As long as I have the right side, that's all that matters.

Selfish?

Perhaps.

But baseball (and all professional sports, to a certain degree) has turned it's back on fans, and turned a once great sport into nothing more than a corporate-structured, union-led extorion attempt to rape the average sports fan for as much money as possible.

Same thing goes for the NBA, by the way. I couldn't care less who wins, or losses. It's all business as far as I'm concerned.


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Very well said Nolan, most people look at sports as entertainment. But the bottom line is it is very big corp business, hate to say it if you want to be entertained and not subject to the big business part of it go to high school or college sports.

Pro sports are big money and if any owner or person tells you it's not then they are full of it, also it's going to be ran like a big corp. they will do what they(owners) feel is best for them and the little people(fans) are down the ladder. Tv is there first concern then after that they worry about the people in the stands if they are a good market team who either owns a large share of the tv station that shows over 60 percent of the teams games and makes great money through advertising,then the fans will always come 2nd when it comes to going out to the ball park. Sad but true.
 
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Corporate...like Enron...Worldcom...Merk...I'd still come back, It's worth the look on my boys face when we walk into the ballpark. Its sad that the players don't remember that feeling.
 

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IMO Professional sports are the one "Entertainment" business that is ongoing year round and it is your choice as to which sport you would like to watch live.

As a part of the entertainment industry's market, professional sports garner the largest part of a patron's entertainment dollars. Why, because it's exciting to some, enjoyable to others, a perq for many but a business to the leagues. Just like the major movie theatre corporations, the almighty $$$ buck is what they're after.

Now some are more greedy than others but if you stop going to professional sports as your personal entertainment out, what is left for you to do in your spare time?

For me personally, I work in the entertainment industry of sorts and when I need recreation, I wager and play on sports. I have many chances to go to entertainment events in the sporting world but I pick and choose. And I am picky.

Just MHO
 

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good points fletch, and nolan, but the stringent business like additude that we are seeing in baseball today is primarley fuled by the extreme groth in wagering on the event, and the media.

baseball has always been lame to me, but i love to wager and watch the games i wager on... wagering fueles baseball

football on the other hand has not been hurt as much, i still love my beloved eagles and make it a point to never wager on one of thier games, football is a pasion for a lot of people, and not because of wagering...

my point is people today need excitement, not just relaxation, baseball is hurt by this additude

i think the new american pastime should be ultimatefighting, have you ever wagered on a ultimate fighting match?.... absolutly unreal...

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Having played hardball in high school and university, i have an appreciation for the game...but not after 1994.....

it's sad to see the game being run into the ground like it has....

I almost NEVER went to go see a JAYS game, even when they did win those two world series in a row...my, how the mighty have fallen on hard times...:(

i still enjoy watching the sport even though most people i talk to seem to think watching a baseball game is like watching grass grow...(maybe if they had played sports, they'd understand...)

but that doesn't mean, i'm not gonna stop betting on it...and continuing to pad my wallet....

I mean, hey!!! we all have mortgages to pay and entertainment expenses to pay off...???

;) :D :moon:
 

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Couldn't say it better Nolan. I think you nailed it to a tee. You are an excelent writer. Ever thought of a career in journalism:D Just kidding, keep up the good job in your gambling career instead!
PEACE, HAIL:D
I agree about Basketball also. The best spectator sport and athletes TRUELY playin for the love of the game is HOCKEY IMO. They also treat their fans like they actually mean something to their respective franchises! GO CANES!!!!!!!!!!!(next year):cool:
 

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Just my 2 cents

Just my 2 cents

I used to be a big Baltimore fan ( just 3 and 1/2 hrs away) when they had Ripken, Palmiero, Alomar, etc. But quite frankly, the only reason I watch any more is ,I put a couple of bucks on the game, and wish it was football season. Baseball makes a good filler between basketball and football seasons. As a sports junkie I need some kind of sports but I would imagine if a poll was taken ...maybe that would be interesting to see how every one rates sports.... football would be tops.
I think I'll see if it would be of interest to do a poll:
Rate your favorite sport in 2 catagories:
1. Favorite sport to watch for "entertainmanet purposes only"
2. Favorite sport to bet on.

I think there might be a different ranking for each... just a thought.
Just my 2 cents
 

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IMO, I could care less about the game and the players. These people are making mega bucks a year and still bitching about who is getting what. WHAT A JOKE.
This saying is true: Sports is the only job you can do a half ass job and still get paid. For instance, hitting .200 when it really counts, dropping a pass wide open in the endzone with time running out, or missing a wide open layup with seconds left. To put it in real terms, My boss would fire me if I dropped the ball with the dead line looming near.
This is also true: In some sports, the public really doesn't care who is playing the game. For example, the NFL walk-out, the scabs came in and game proceeded. People actually gave the game allot more respect becuase the actually saw players giving it their all. Not some guy that says "Ill play when I want to".
The way I get my revenge is by not buy any thing they have to sell. Sure I see the games on TV, but I don't support the sponsors, I am beating the system.
I am like everyone here, I think, I wager on sports to make a little money and to view the game. I really can't view an entire game in any sport without having something on it.
 

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I hope if the players do strike that the owners just cut everybody and either bring up the triple A teams or just hold open tryouts. In 5-6 years, you wouldn't even know the difference anymore, and it would send a great message that professional athletes are priveleged to be able to make a living playing sports, and they need to start showing how much they appreciate that. I'd like all of them to be out of work, sitting at home 5-6 years from now, thinking about how they gave the game up so they wouldn't be "limited" to only making tens of millions a year, or have to prove that they aren't using performance enhancers; in hind sight I'd have to believe they'd come to the only possible conclusion, and that is to ask themselves "how stupid were we?" I know that these guys work there a$$es off (most of them) but for Barry Bonds to make a statement that they're "just like any other union" is absolutely ludicrous. Unions that go on strike always make the claim that they are doing it for the workers that come after. That may be true in a lot of cases, but here the worst thing they can do for future ball-players is alienate the group that makes it possible for them to exist; the fans. And to think that these athletes who threaten to strike, who hold out in contract negotiations, who blame everyone except themselves when they underperform, still have the audacity to get on the mic after they win a championship and say "this one's for the fans". I'd trade in all the Sammy Sosa 400-plus foot homers, all the Randy Johnson 100-MPH strikeouts, and all the Alex Rodriguez aerial catches just to see kids playing baseball that just want to play for the love of the game.

My dream is to see an athlete that says to a GM, "You know what? If I were to judge my value against guys of my ability, I'm worth about $15 million a year. But I'm gonna sign for half that because I want you to go out and use that money to get us some other great talent, because I want a championship." Everyone complains that the Yankees are unfair because they "buy" their championships, but nobody puts the blame where it deserves to be, on the players. I would submit to you that if top-notch players really cared about winning for the fans, they would be willing to undergo the "supreme injustice" of playing for a piddling $3-$4 million a year. $60 million is a sh*tload of money!!! There's no reason that an orgainzation should be accused of "not willing to spend anything" when they're shelling out that much cash. I love Sammy Sosa at the beginning of last year, saying "it's all about the team" and "I just want to win", he certainly was singing a very different tune before he locked up his contract in 2000 . . .

Longwinded, but to answer the question, yes I'd come back, I just love it too much. But I would try my best to never buy anything with a player's name on it, and I would do my best to boycott any products they endorse (though in this day and age, I wouldn't be able to buy anything).
 
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Yeah, I'll be back because I like it....sports is no different than
anything else you enjoy....and anything else you enjoy is heading
down the same set of tracks....the land of the FREE and the home
of the BRAVE is now ALL ABOUT MONEY..........so why are you
going to all of a sudden turn off baseball and enjoy WHAT?????
Tell me, what are you going to start following that isn't just as
bad as baseball?????????.........I'm just curious.........:)
 

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If these players strike the owners should just fire everyone involved and have the whole of AAA teams come into Major league.

Reduce the tickets same as the salaries would reduce and look at people flock to games where u have to pay $4 for good seats.

Lets the existing jokers take early retirement and sit back and watch some games to see how other low paid jokers play the same ball. If they can hit home runs in AAA then with same teams taken upto Major league level they can hit home runs also. Dammit .. reduce the size of the ballpark if the low paid jokers are not capable of hitting a lot of homers. But reduce the salary of the players .. REDUCE THE TICKET MONEY .. .. . whatever money is saved give it as incentive .. if the team wins then players get the money like a bonus . . i would like to bet on teams where I know that most of the money given to the jokers is only if they perform ..

As for the rest of the jokers watchin at home offer them jobs as cleaners in the stands and as ball boys or janitors to clean up the mess the fans leave. At least they will know how it feels when a guy who has bet on them has to clean up the mess they leave by giving a pathetic effort.

Actually no cleanin up .. the books do it automatically ..

For all others who are lookin for jobs after strikin come to me and I will find a position as a cook for them .. lots of jobs in North of Canada .. . .. bunch of fools .. When i dont agree with garbage collectors striking in Toronto to increase their wages how in the world would i agree to clowns strikin to increase their millions salary ..

Cheers !!!
Spock

# Now I know why the "Who Jays " charge a god damn ticket charge when ya purchase the ticket from the counter .. there is a $1.25 charge [just increase the ticket price .. dont advertise u r greedy] bcoz of the efforts involved in the guy sittin behind the barred window acceptin money from u .. enterin it in the machine .. and tearin off the printed tickets and handin it back to me .. now i know the damn money goes to these clowns ..
No more Lays Jays games for me ..
 

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i could care less if they come back, it's business, right ?

come on football.

just off the top of my head, i remember going to games as a kid, and went to see THE GAME, THE TEAMS, and the ballpark.

now with the entertainment factor, fans now go to see stars and worship false idols. which produces $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

baseball should be bending over backwards to keep the fan base they have now, and recruit for the future, because 16 football games, and 82 b ball games will kick 162 ball games anyday.
 
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