Illegalis Over 9 Million ?

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Latest stats from our IRS. These folks pay taxes. Or I should say have with hoalding taxs taken out. This by the legal employers who do so. They number just over 9 million. How many are here that no record of there work is given out. IRS estmates another 1 million. This was on CNBC today when the subject of unemployed was discussed. However they say these are jobs none of us will do. Empty bed pans, pick apples, oranges. Work the hot fields of Arz, Utah, Calf. Even in meat packing companies. Lawn services all over the south west. Hell some are here as illegalis and own and run small companies. 3/4 man outfits. What the hell is going on. We have 6.1% unemployment. We should believe no one here that is legal. Lived here there whole life. None of these folks will work any of these 10 million jobs. Dam thats sad if true. Or is it none of them want to work for 4 bucks a hour. Have a idea it's a little of both. What does the political group from MJ's say. Or any others with back ground or info on this. By the way there is another reason government looks the other way. Thats next.
But I want to here from you guys first.
 

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I just want to know if the foreign people who get a driver's license have to take drivers education.

The reason I ask is, I got behind a foreign person this morning getting on the highway and the jackass stopped on the on ramp.

Do they just take the written and the small driving test and whammo, they have a license?

It just really pisses me off.
 

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No takers. The government looks the other way because they keep all the tax money. Thats right. These illeqalis dont fill out income tax returns. So money taken out all year is kept. Amount not given as official. But is estimated in 100's of millionsof $$.
So we say keep im out guard the border. But then look the other way.
 

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Ok guy, if they get sick who flips the bill?

If they get hurt, who?

If they get a heart lung transplant...something awful goes wrong..they sue....win? Who?

It's wrong anyway you look at it.

You read about all these terrorists?most of them came here legally, but they hung around on these expired visas, some for as long as 10-15 years. Now, compare that to Blockbuster: you?re two days late with a video and those people are all over you. Let?s put Blockbuster charge of immigration
 

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They also claim 8 to 10 dependents, so they get the minimum tax taken out. So the only people losing out is me and you, pal. Don't think for a second that the government is making some huge revenue on illegal aliens.
 

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Here is another one for you. In California, almost 40% of prison inmates are illegal aliens. How much do you suppose that is costing tax payers?

People cross the border from Mexico, go to our hospitals to have their babies (taxpayer expense) and voila - the baby is a citizen even though mom isn't.

The government is making no killing on keeping their taxes. A large portion of illegals work under the table (That's the employer's fault; not theirs) and pay no taxes. In California, many send all their money home to Mexico and it never circulates within the U.S.

I think the biggest crock that we constantly hear is that the illegals are doing the work that Americans won't do. Who does this work in North and South Dakota? Who does this work in Minnesota? Who does this work in Maine? Americans do this work. California, Arizona, Texas and other border states are an aberration.

Gardners? I know 2 people (American) that do this kind of work and they make more money than I do! And then there is "landscaping" on top of that.

I don't begrudge the fact that people want to come here from other lands. Most of us are here because our descendants did the same. But in today's world, where the government hands out money and benefits like it grows on trees, we need to have some control or we will all be playing the penny slots before long.

Another annoyance is the fact that it is so hard for people to come into the US from, for example, South Africa. I have a friend who could not come in because of strict quotas. I had to find a business owner who would agree to hire this person because of his special talents. Then the lawyers went to work. About 30k later he was in. Keeping the productive out and letting the non-productive in just doesn't make sense. But because being against free borders is deemed "racism" by many and politically incorrect by others, the taxpayers are getting the shaft.

Would that we would be treated the same way if we went to another country.
 

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You see you boys are smarter then the feds. Or are they being sly about this. States dont take out much money so im sure make little if any money. Feds take out more and keep it. Then let the states suffer with these folks. As you guys say at the hospitals go free. Try to sue if hurt. Not sure if they can pull of that or not.
By the way you will find them in the fields of North and South Dakota to. When there estimated at 10 million you know there ever where. Just think when we had the civil war. Believe our country only had 46 million liveing here. Now we have over 10 million illeqalis. Way to many. However you dont see anything differant going on to stop it then has for last 20 years. If we wanted to really get serious we would do much more then couple 100 new border guards.
 

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This is just one more area where Bush and those before him don't have the balls to stop it.
 

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I work in the US couple of months a year and boy do I hate it ..

except when I am in small towns .. but in all the big towns .. NYC .. Chicago .. . . its crazy stuff .. so many people .. . boy its scary ..

The hospital thing is crazy.

In UK [Britain] If you are non UK citizens and you have a baby the baby is NOT a British citizen by birth. The parents have to have British Green Card or Citizenship for the baby to have British Citizenship also.

Mebbe US gotta go back to those rules retroactively :eek: .. of course easy in theory but will never be implemented



even though there are so many Americans who are frustrated about these issues of illegal aliens am wondering how nothing is being done ? .. surely there has to be some voting power pressure ..

:shrug: :confused:
 

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Spock the feds are making money off these folks. The states are taking the hit. Presssure has to come from the states to WDC to do more. It's there but is not seen as urgent. Very strange in these days of security. It's time for military along the borders?
 
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