Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years

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Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years
Wednesday January 16, 10:40 am ET
By Martin Crutsinger, AP Economics Writer

Higher Costs for Energy and Food Push Inflation Rate Up by Largest Amount in 17 Years

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile, industrial output was flat in December, more evidence of a significant slowdown in the economy.

Consumer prices rose by 4.1 percent for all of 2007, up sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in 2006, the Labor Department said Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain when they filled up their gas tanks or shopped for groceries. Prices for both energy and food shot up by the largest amount since 1990.

In a second report, the Federal Reserve said that output at the nation's factories, mines and utilities showed no growth in December, adding to a string of weak economic reports showing that the economy was slowing at the end of last year.

The unchanged output in December was the poorest showing since industrial output actually fell by 0.5 percent in October. Output had been up by 0.3 percent in November.

The December weakness reflected flat output at U.S. factories, a tiny 0.1 percent rise in the mining industry and a 0.2 percent drop at the nation's utilities.

The Consumer Price Index rose by 0.3 percent in December, slower than the 0.8 percent in November, as food costs were flat for the month and energy prices rose by 0.9 percent after an even bigger 5.7 percent jump in November.

Outside of food and energy, inflation rose a more moderate 0.2 percent in December. This measure of core inflation rose by 2.4 percent for all of 2007, down slightly from a 2.6 percent increase in 2006.

The Federal Reserve is closely watching to see whether the jump in food and energy becomes more widespread and starts pushing core inflation higher.

Analysts said that with core prices generally remaining well-behaved, it will give the central bank the leeway to cut interest rates further to battle a serious economic slowdown triggered by a steep slump in housing and a spreading credit crisis.

The expectation is that the Fed will cut a key rate by a half-point when officials meet at the end of this month. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke raised hopes for further rate cuts in a speech last week when he said that economic risks had grown significantly in recent weeks.

The rising risk of a recession has prompted politicians to consider stimulus packages to give the economy a jump-start to either prevent a recession or at least mitigate its fallout. President Bush has said he may unveil a plan around his Jan. 28 State of the Union address. Democrats in Congress and presidential candidates in both parties are putting forward their own plans.

The CPI report showed that the 4.1 percent increase in overall prices was the biggest since a 6.1 percent jump in prices in 1990.

Energy costs rose by 17.4 percent this past year while food costs rose by 4.9 percent. Both were the biggest increases since 1990. Gasoline prices were up 29.6 percent, the biggest increase since they soared by 30.1 percent in 1999.

The 2.4 percent rise in prices outside of food and energy was the smallest since a 2.2 percent rise in 2005.

Clothing costs and the price of new cars actually fell for the year, both dropping by 0.3 percent, while airline fares, reflecting higher fuel costs, were up 10.6 percent and medical care, always one of the leading areas of price increases, rose by 5.2 percent for 2007.

Workers' wages failed to keep up with the higher inflation. Average weekly earnings, after adjusting for inflation, dropped by 0.9 percent in 2007, the biggest setback since a 1.5 percent fall in 2005.
 

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Bush's second recession is on the way. Many believe it started 3 months ago. To bad we can't re-elected Bush and just have a depression. Mr Big spender.
 

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Must almost be time to cut taxes for the rich again. Bush might really be able to deliver the knock out punch to the middle class.
 

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Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years
Wednesday January 16, 10:40 am ET
By Martin Crutsinger, AP Economics Writer

Higher Costs for Energy and Food Push Inflation Rate Up by Largest Amount in 17 Years

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile, industrial output was flat in December, more evidence of a significant slowdown in the economy.

Consumer prices rose by 4.1 percent for all of 2007, up sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in 2006, the Labor Department said Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain when they filled up their gas tanks or shopped for groceries. Prices for both energy and food shot up by the largest amount since 1990.

In a second report, the Federal Reserve said that output at the nation's factories, mines and utilities showed no growth in December, adding to a string of weak economic reports showing that the economy was slowing at the end of last year.

The unchanged output in December was the poorest showing since industrial output actually fell by 0.5 percent in October. Output had been up by 0.3 percent in November.

The December weakness reflected flat output at U.S. factories, a tiny 0.1 percent rise in the mining industry and a 0.2 percent drop at the nation's utilities.

The Consumer Price Index rose by 0.3 percent in December, slower than the 0.8 percent in November, as food costs were flat for the month and energy prices rose by 0.9 percent after an even bigger 5.7 percent jump in November.

Outside of food and energy, inflation rose a more moderate 0.2 percent in December. This measure of core inflation rose by 2.4 percent for all of 2007, down slightly from a 2.6 percent increase in 2006.

The Federal Reserve is closely watching to see whether the jump in food and energy becomes more widespread and starts pushing core inflation higher.

Analysts said that with core prices generally remaining well-behaved, it will give the central bank the leeway to cut interest rates further to battle a serious economic slowdown triggered by a steep slump in housing and a spreading credit crisis.

The expectation is that the Fed will cut a key rate by a half-point when officials meet at the end of this month. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke raised hopes for further rate cuts in a speech last week when he said that economic risks had grown significantly in recent weeks.

The rising risk of a recession has prompted politicians to consider stimulus packages to give the economy a jump-start to either prevent a recession or at least mitigate its fallout. President Bush has said he may unveil a plan around his Jan. 28 State of the Union address. Democrats in Congress and presidential candidates in both parties are putting forward their own plans.

The CPI report showed that the 4.1 percent increase in overall prices was the biggest since a 6.1 percent jump in prices in 1990.

Energy costs rose by 17.4 percent this past year while food costs rose by 4.9 percent. Both were the biggest increases since 1990. Gasoline prices were up 29.6 percent, the biggest increase since they soared by 30.1 percent in 1999.

The 2.4 percent rise in prices outside of food and energy was the smallest since a 2.2 percent rise in 2005.

Clothing costs and the price of new cars actually fell for the year, both dropping by 0.3 percent, while airline fares, reflecting higher fuel costs, were up 10.6 percent and medical care, always one of the leading areas of price increases, rose by 5.2 percent for 2007.

Workers' wages failed to keep up with the higher inflation. Average weekly earnings, after adjusting for inflation, dropped by 0.9 percent in 2007, the biggest setback since a 1.5 percent fall in 2005.

Read between the lines and tell me which of these or not true-
-Basic inflation rates are figured on core inflation. Rates where moderate as in 07 as in 06.
-consumer prices are not inflation prices yet some media will tout inflation in headlines but back up article with consumer prices if it suits their agenda.
-on there no growth or slow groth on jobs in Dec-growth historically slow in dec - in fact many times neg due to holidays.
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With that being I remarked here several months ago when market was booming that it defied logic per cost of oil--IMO if oil remained high would have seen gradual decline at some point--however credit crunch( or should I say inherantly bad loans) sped things up--will be much tougher to reverse now but not as tough as effects of 911 and got through that in short order--do I think were headed for recession-60-40 in my opinion
1st lets define recession--
"A decline in business activity. Often defined as two consecutive quarters with a real fall in gross national production"
have we come close to approaching -not yet-could we--very possible.If so would expect it to be short like last time and a wake up call we all need occasional--what could cause rampant extended inflation that was out of control for long period in the 80's
--taking money out of hands of productive (taxes) slowing production and corporation spending (more taxes on corps) and how do we skyrocket consumer prices (gas and food) how about this--get on bio fuel kick which cost about the same to produce gal of fuel as $90 oil while at same increases the cost of grain and livestock (food).

Now granted the more they produce the more efficient it will become--in fact saw report from the 'Green people" that looked pretty feasible that they could get down to maybe cost of $2 a gal at pump--but would imagine the gov would find some way to stick savings in their pocket--was just scoffing few months ago about dem in senate wantingto add 50 cent gas tax and then found out current funds for highways/bridges were being used for jogging/bicycle paths--then low and behold I see again today they are back at it--and during election time no less:scared

increase gas tax-corp tax-individual tax-healthcare tax-$5,000 for every baby tax --and they haven't even got in power yet :)
 

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Wow, that was some convoluted attempt at spin...very Weasel-like, without the elipses...;)

I will attempt to look at your points and address at some point. But it does seem like you are buying off inflation with recession-like situation partially due to oil prices. Would like to point out again, what administration made it Job #1 to extend beneficial tax and credit policies and rebates to oil companies - with NO HELP from democrats who were denied access to policy meetings affecting all Americans. Those same companies who have enjoyed unheard of profits for some time now, and can seemingly do very little to help out the consumer, who not only pays much more for gas now than previously, but pays the oil companies in tax policy benefits for the right to pay these high prices. Perfect storm, I think they call it.

Not only do they control the price we pay at the pump, they also have been buying up all the ethanol plants and delivery systems to help keep the price of that fuel comparable to gas, while benefiting from tax credits for investing in renewable sources.

When you think about it, there are so many reasons to blame this administration for what real Americans are going through every day. Gas costs more. Everything costs more, in large part due to the oil companies. And those are the businesses that your boys have always taken care of, for plenty of reasons.

It's a good gig, if you can get it, brother.
 

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I wouldn't worry about it too much, though. As Americans are having more trouble putting money into the economy than ever before, looks like the Chinese and OPEC countries are going to prop up/buy up financial interests and play with the dollar - until they find it not in their best interests anymore. Wonder what will happen to us, then? :shrug:
 

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It won't be long until cute, little, friendly, freckle faced kids begin to appear in your neighborhood.

From a distance, they wave, shout "Hello, my name is Bobby!"

As you approach this youngster to introduce yourself, you notice he has boils all over his face.

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

Maybe yours.
 

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:mj03: Buddy?



I'll take a stap at?

I find that Buddy's contributions are way over my head...But most of the topics in politics and or religons are.

I just know it cost way to much to eat and it cost WAY TO MUCH to fill up the tanks in all these machines I own..

That I damn well know..


about the boils...:shrug:


Historical and contemporary experiences have shown that there is a definite but complex relationship between economic growth on the one hand and health status on the other. In general, sustained economic growth over the long run does lead to improved health and nutritional status: in the now-industrialised countries the large and sustained decline in mortality has been accomplished by reductions in morbidity (disease) and malnutrition, and largely preceded any effective medical interventions
 

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Wow, that was some convoluted attempt at spin...very Weasel-like, without the elipses...;)

I will attempt to look at your points and address at some point. But it does seem like you are buying off inflation with recession-like situation partially due to oil prices. Would like to point out again, what administration made it Job #1 to extend beneficial tax and credit policies and rebates to oil companies - with NO HELP from democrats who were denied access to policy meetings affecting all Americans. Those same companies who have enjoyed unheard of profits for some time now, and can seemingly do very little to help out the consumer, who not only pays much more for gas now than previously, but pays the oil companies in tax policy benefits for the right to pay these high prices. Perfect storm, I think they call it.

Not only do they control the price we pay at the pump, they also have been buying up all the ethanol plants and delivery systems to help keep the price of that fuel comparable to gas, while benefiting from tax credits for investing in renewable sources.

When you think about it, there are so many reasons to blame this administration for what real Americans are going through every day. Gas costs more. Everything costs more, in large part due to the oil companies. And those are the businesses that your boys have always taken care of, for plenty of reasons.

It's a good gig, if you can get it, brother.

Duh-- excuse me

Their headline was--
Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years

--and fact was (per article)inflation was actual down from 2006 and you accuse me of spinning--

"Outside of food and energy, inflation rose a more moderate 0.2 percent in December. This measure of core inflation rose by 2.4 percent for all of 2007, down slightly from a 2.6 percent increase in 2006."


and you accuse me of spinning by pointing out fact--can we file that under --Liberal logic :)
 

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Wayne, you're playing the "Duh" card on me? I have a few "duh's" for you, as my point on you spinning is exactly the case, and you actually pointed it out in your response.

The headline and the main gist of the story is about what? OVERALL INFLATION. Which is a measured number, is it not? The story is not based on core inflation, which although an arguable measure of what Americans deal with, tends to be a pretty level number because of what it measures. I know you want people to "read between the lines" and to focus on a part of the story that detracts (somehow - see next paragraph) from it, but the main story is about overall inflation. [Duh #1]

As most people know and can realize, the current cost of purchasing homes, vehicles, big ticket items is lower than it has been. Those are numbers (the home $$ outlay is 1/3 of the core inflation number definitely depress that number, right? Why are these numbers falling? Because Americans are having a hard time affording those things, including their mortgages, health care and their rent, right? Why is that? Because the economy is so strong, and they are doing so much better on a monthly basis? [Duh #2].

Do you honestly think that the core inflation number is a more important number to do a story on than overall inflation? To the average American? You throw out liberal logic...your comment can only be construed as conservative logic. The important story - which this one was mainly about - is that Americans are dealing with overall inflation numbers that are the worst they've been in 17 years. Food and energy costs, which you want people to ignore in print here (because they certainly can't every day), make up 26% of their cost of living. When those costs are so much higher, that simple fact alone is the biggest reason the core inflation number remains consistent. It's a double whammy on Joe Six-Pack, and the economy, which suffers because people can't afford to spend money. Your focus attempt is not only incorrect [Duh #3], but it gave us all a good look at why your argument is even more wrong when you want us to look at your narrow points "between the lines." [Duh #4]
 

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As I re-read first article it seems to me it has quotes from our government. Things such as gas and food going up is not new. Take home wages dropping is no help. Housing is shot. And that started over a year ago. And everyone in this government sat on its hands did nothing. As for markets higher. We all know if you go back to 1999/2000 add 3.5% a year to those numbers. And please throw out the Nas. Stick with S/P and Dow. We should be way ahead of so called records of 6/8 months ago.
 

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Pretty good rebuttal chadman.......

WTF is buddy talking about??:shrug:

Smallpox? Acne....I mean bad acne?Resistant Staph (that's the family doc's fault, btw)? It'll take 500wds to to tie pustules and inflation together in a cogent discussion:0corn
 

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Wayne, you're playing the "Duh" card on me? I have a few "duh's" for you, as my point on you spinning is exactly the case, and you actually pointed it out in your response.

The headline and the main gist of the story is about what? OVERALL INFLATION. Which is a measured number, is it not? The story is not based on core inflation, which although an arguable measure of what Americans deal with, tends to be a pretty level number because of what it measures. I know you want people to "read between the lines" and to focus on a part of the story that detracts (somehow - see next paragraph) from it, but the main story is about overall inflation. [Duh #1]

As most people know and can realize, the current cost of purchasing homes, vehicles, big ticket items is lower than it has been. Those are numbers (the home $$ outlay is 1/3 of the core inflation number definitely depress that number, right? Why are these numbers falling? Because Americans are having a hard time affording those things, including their mortgages, health care and their rent, right? Why is that? Because the economy is so strong, and they are doing so much better on a monthly basis? [Duh #2].

Do you honestly think that the core inflation number is a more important number to do a story on than overall inflation? To the average American? You throw out liberal logic...your comment can only be construed as conservative logic. The important story - which this one was mainly about - is that Americans are dealing with overall inflation numbers that are the worst they've been in 17 years. Food and energy costs, which you want people to ignore in print here (because they certainly can't every day), make up 26% of their cost of living. When those costs are so much higher, that simple fact alone is the biggest reason the core inflation number remains consistent. It's a double whammy on Joe Six-Pack, and the economy, which suffers because people can't afford to spend money. Your focus attempt is not only incorrect [Duh #3], but it gave us all a good look at why your argument is even more wrong when you want us to look at your narrow points "between the lines." [Duh #4]

I'll have to give up Chad- my reading skills must be slipping --Doesn't make any diff how many times I read headline I don't get overall inflation in the headlines.

on CPI (consumer price index and inflation)
The basic diff---

What is the Difference Between Inflation and CPI?

Because CPI represents a number that is the most widely used measure of inflation, most people think that CPI and inflation are one in the same. But CPI itself does not tell us what the current inflation rate is. Calculations using the index must be done in order to determine the increase or decrease in the prices of goods and services.

Calculate the Inflation Rate
The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) evaluates prices and generates the current CPI on a monthly basis. It then compares the current figure to last year?s index. The resulting percentage change between the two figures indicates the increase or decrease in inflation.

For example:
If current CPI is 189 and one year ago CPI was 185, the percentage increase is 2.16% calculated as follows:

(189-185)/185 = 2.16%

Using this example, the inflation rate for that particular one-year period of time was 2.16%.
 
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