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A-freaking-men!! Great statistics, great article!!





WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA ?
( HERE'S THE ANSWER)



Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a column titled, "Mexican visitor's lament" -- 10/25/07.
She interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said,
"They (illegal aliens) pay rent, buy groceries, buy clothes...what happens to your country's ec onomy if 20 million people go away?"
That's a good question - it deserves an answer. Over 80 percent of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America ? The answers may surprise you!

In California , if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico , it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems, bankrupted hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner, safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as English became the dominate language a gain.

In Colorado , 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grand-kids - would move back "home," mostly to Mexico . That would save Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 BIL) annually in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration costs. It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.

Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.

Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67 percent drop out/flunk out rate via thousands of illegal alien students speaking 41 different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from our gridlocked cities in Colorado . Denver 's four percent unemployment rate would vanish as our working poor would gain jobs at a living wage.

In Florida , 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State back to America , the rule of law and English.

In Chicago , Illinois , 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free experience.

If 20 million illegal aliens returned "home," the U.S. economy would return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American citizens at a living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they wouldn't be working off the books. That would result in an additional $401 billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount for local state and city coffers.
No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English. No more confusion in American schools that now must content with over 100 languages that degrade the educational system for American kids. Our overcrowded schools would lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.
We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country. In cities like L.A. , 2 0,000 members of the " 18th Street Gang" would vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft from Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!


Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American deaths by illegal aliens!
Drain on America 's economy; taxpayers harmed, employers get rich
Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to their home countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed, which further drains America 's economy - which currently suffers an $8.7 trillion debt.
At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country, costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in California , Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being bankrupted out of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act. Americans wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant in our country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.
Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and grid locking our cities. It would also put the "progressives" on the horns of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11 percent of our greenhouse gases.

Over one million of Mexico 's poorest citizens now live inside and along our border from Brownsville , Texas to San Diego , California in what the New York Times called, "colonias" or new neighborhoods. Trouble is, those living areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty, filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without sewage, clean water, streets, electricity, roads or any kind of san itation. The New York Times reported them to be America 's new " Third World " in side our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate, they expect 20 million residents of those colonias. (I've seen them personally in Texas and Arizona ; it's sickening beyond anything you can imagine.) By enforcing our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico .

High integrity, ethical invitation
We invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own countr ies and/or make a better life in Mexico . We invite a million people into our country legally more than all other countries combined annually. We cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more anarchy within our borders and growing lawlessness at every level in our nation.
It's time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and our way of life

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As a resident of the Texas, I find this really interesting.


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I agree.

I have no issues what so ever with 'legal' immigrants. I am all for them. The country needs them.

This has gotten to the point w/ illegals that drastic measures are necessary. Get them out.
 

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As a resident of the Texas, I find this really interesting.


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As well, you should! I lived in San Antonio while I was in boot camp and I swear the only Whiteys in that city were on the base. :mj07:
 

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Spent AIT at San Antonio--myself Ronnie

Agree Andy on the illegals--

How beware there are some that adamantly disagree--in fact I have been called clueless for disagreeing with this quote by one member here :)

"Immigrants (legal and illegal) are the future of this country. Nothing and nobody will change that."

Having went through the immigration system the legal way I can assure people it is quite tedious and involved and takes about 18 months of piles of paperwork even with the services of an immigration attorney--Its purpose is to weed out the following you get from illegals that have no screenings and have little chance of being anything more but a drain on a population that already has families with generations of welfare recipients.
Europe has finally come to that conclusion after the fact.

Programs focus on illiterate immigrants
By HEATHER HOLLINGSWORTH - Associated Press Writer

Ed Zurga
Juma Kennedy, from Tanzania, tries to spell out the word "kit" during a spelling exercise in Bob Jansen's English 1 class at the Don Bosco Community Center Thursday, Nov. 29, 2007, in Kansas City, Mo. Jansen's students are among an estimated 400,000 legal and 350,000 illegal immigrants who are unable to read or write even in their native language.

Migration Policy Institute

KANSAS CITY, Mo. --Before Bob Jansen can teach English to the adult immigrants in his lowest-level class, he has to show about a quarter of them how to hold a pencil.

Adult education teachers like Jansen are finding themselves starting from scratch as uneducated immigrants and refugees from conflict regions of Africa and rural areas of Mexico and Central America flock to the United States.

An estimated 400,000 legal and 350,000 illegal immigrants are unable to read or write even in their native language, according to a July 2007 report from the Migration Policy Institute, an independent Washington think tank.

"It takes a lot of patience to teach this class," said Jansen, an instructor at the Don Bosco Community Center.

During one recent session, Jansen drew male and female stick figures on the dry erase board and taped pictures of different modes of transportation alongside the sketches. Students crafted sentences like, "He is on the orange airplane."

His students, including five Somali women clad in long head scarves, also recite the alphabet and practice vowel sounds. Others in the class come from other African counties as well as Latin America, Asia and the Middle East.

One of the students, Rebeka Goup, did not attend any school in her native Sudan before she come to the U.S. in 2000.

"I need to learn English to talk to people," said Goup, who is one of the most fluent students in the class but speaks in broken English. Asked in English where they are from, many of her classmates respond with their names or addresses.

The immigrants, some of whom attended school for the first time in refugee camps, tend to flounder alongside classmates who attended school in their native countries.

More states are looking at student performance as they decide how to distribute federal dollars to programs that provide English classes for adult immigrants.

Those who teach the students say they are penalized for their slow progress, and are discouraged from offering them separate classes.

"One hand of the government is letting preliterate people come here as refugees," said David Holsclaw, director of Don Bosco Community Center's English as a Second Language Program, which serves about 2,500 students a year. "And another hand of the government is making it hard to serve them because they want to tie our funding to testing."

It's easy to understand why immigrants struggle if they aren't literate in their native languages, said Barbara Van Horn, co-director of the Goodling Institute for Research in Family Literacy at Pennsylvania State University.

"They haven't made the connection between their oral language and the fact that what is printed, those letters represent sounds that are used to make up words," she said. "They don't have that basic understanding of what literacy is about."

Cheryl Keenan, director of adult education and literacy with the U.S. Department of Education, said the completion rate for adult immigrants in the lowest-level classes was greater than for the highest-level classes.

But she acknowledged that service providers are "quite challenged in how to address the instructional needs of these beginning literacy students."

Service providers first began noticing large numbers of unschooled immigrants after the Vietnam War, when throngs of Laotian Hmong war refugees arrived with no traditional written language.

But most programs were slow to respond to their needs, said Heide Spruck Wrigley, a nonresident fellow with the Washington-based Center for Immigrant Integration Policy.

She said the latest immigration influx has refocused attention on non-literate immigrants.

According to the Migration Policy Institute, the number of foreign-born adults with less than a fifth-grade education increased 25 percent from 1.74 million immigrants in 1990 to 2.18 million in 2000. It then dipped 2 percent to 2.12 million immigrants in 2006.

Wrigley said programs seeking to serve the lowest-level students know more about what works and what doesn't than they did after the Vietnam War. But programs continue to struggle.

Service providers face pressure to maintain large classes, and often lack enough non-literate students for a separate class. But the non-literate students are lost as soon as the teacher writes a sentence on the board.
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1st thing I thought of was classroom scene from movie :)

I met her on a monday and my heart stood still
They do run run run - they do run run
Somebody told me that her name was Jill
They do run run run - they do run run
 

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Actually not interesting at all. Same old unrealistic hypocritical crap.


For christ's sake:rolleyes:

Pick part of ONE sentence out of the whole article, thanks for your opinion:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I was just passing along an email, sorry if it did not meet your standards:scared
 

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this one way off my man...very,veery ..few american kids apply or want to apply for these jobs at mom and mom stores acrooss the country..put up a Sighn at local resturants,,or landscaping ,,this kids today are not built for these jobs and will not take em///thses jobs play 10 hr,AT THE WORST min wage and these kids do not want them..if they do they last a week...moST mom and pops who need that dishwasher,prep guy//etc will BE FUKD AND OUT OD BUSSINESS..
 

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I agree there is a problem here, but you can't just kick millions of people out of the country. This article has severe racial undertones in my opinion. But hey, if you think America will be better off with just Walmart and Vanilla ice cream then who am I to argue?

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But who wrote the article and where did all of their facts come from. :shrug:

Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a column titled, "Mexican visitor's lament" -- 10/25/07.

I did not write this or even say that it was MY OPINION, all I said was "Interesting Article":shrug:

But if some of these numbers and facts do not raise your curiosity, then you really do not realize that we have a major problem in OUR country:scared
 

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Living in California I am able to see first hand what is mentioned in this article. The schools are overloaded and millions are spent on education for English Language Learners and English as a Second Language students. While it is admirable, schools are NOT required to address issues of legality when accepting students. Might I add that there are millions more obtaining free breakfasts and lunches. Yes, the federal government kicks in money for this, but we are the federal government and the taxpayers are footing the bill.

Hospitals have closed, essentially run out of business because of the people who cannot pay for emergency care. Many of these people are illegal.

I think it is hogwash to say that illegals do all the dirty jobs that legal residents won't do. Who does these jobs in the states that are predominantly white? Aliens from outer space?
Who is busing tables in the Dakotas?

I can tell you who previously did all the jobs "no one" will do today in California - high school students. Yes, I was a paperboy, grocery bagger,gardener and part-time janitor in high school. Many of my friends worked. Now, few high school students can obtain jobs other than seasonal or fast food. You can argue that this creates better education for the students that used to work, but that is not happening.

I wouldn't go so far as suggesting illegals be removed from the country - that won't happen. It is neither practical nor desireable. But people should realize the toll it is taking on our country. In the early 1900's the immigrants were highly desirous of assimilating into our culture. Not so with many of today's immigrants. It is an issue that is definitely two-sided as we are the land of the free and have a responsibility to help others. But it comes at a heavy price.
 

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Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a column titled, "Mexican visitor's lament" -- 10/25/07.

I did not write this or even say that it was MY OPINION, all I said was "Interesting Article":shrug:

But if some of these numbers and facts do not raise your curiosity, then you really do not realize that we have a major problem in OUR country:scared


I looked up the article on that day and all I can tell is that she wrote the first couple of sentences. :shrug:
 

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it`s gonna be tough to get a handle on.....you have republican big business interests interested in cheaper labor....and you have the democrats interested in basically ending the 2 party system with more than enough illegal voters to send the republican party the way of the buggy whip....and more freebies means more democratic voters....and more tax burden on the middle class.....

that`s what all the effort from the demcratic party to fight realistic identification requirements from voters and all this crap about issuing "driver`s licenses" to illegals is all about....

they`re selling this country down the drain...

greed...power....
 

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btw...congress just pared down the "fence" bill that required a double fence along the mexican border.....

they "changed" it to a single,much,much shorter fence(only around 350 miles).....

then they added a bill that allows illegals to get legal assistance in their cases to fight extradition and get citizenship....on the taxpayer dollar....

that`s right...you`re gonna be paying for slip and fall shysters to represent illegals who have broken the law....

i`d like to see one of the small business owners that posts on this site try and get a little gov`t hand-out or assistance in any legal matter THEY might encounter.....

DON`T HOLD YOUR BREATH....
 
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