iowa g.o.p.straw poll results...

DOGS THAT BARK

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I wouldn't count your chickens yet--If you'll recall I made comment 06 elections could be blessing for conservatives--giving americans 2 years to look at why they voted them out in 1st place--

Have you noticed congress ratings at all time low :)

Still enough taxpayers to compensate for the non taxpayers at least till 2115.

I see where Hilliary & Bill are blocking release of her Whitehouse records till after election--Didn't they learn anything from Kerry? Hmm won't go on media but liberal networks--won't release info--definitely liberal voter material.

Lets see other solutions-- ranted about medicare and snn deficeit--their solution--add a third-the grand daddy of all--socialized medicare to picture--makes sense--only if your a liberal.

Immigration--Lets see what their liberal arm has accomplished-- sanctuary cities for illegals--
Hmm Wonder what folks in New Jersey think about now their elected officials harboring illegals from ICE after raping children--so they can return and execute others.

Lets see if I can find something for Smurph--oh yes
I see todays where another of your brothers-a liberal official is reaching out to chavez Chavas ala Penn-and the rest of your liberal movie stars--believe his name is Ellis--however might be Hakim Mansour Ellis now as he has converted to Islam--another liberal trademark.Maybe we can have a Black Muslim caucus in the future--ya think ;)

I think the conservatives are on to something with their push on federalism where states take more power.

We could let states dictate their rules/taxes and let their voters live with their convictions. If only there was a way to make them stay there after reality sets in.:SIB
 

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Lets see if I can find something for Smurph--oh yes
I see todays where another of your brothers-a liberal official is reaching out to chavez Chavas ala Penn-and the rest of your liberal movie stars--believe his name is Ellis--however might be Hakim Mansour Ellis now as he has converted to Islam--another liberal trademark.Maybe we can have a Black Muslim caucus in the future--ya think ;)
WTF makes you think I like someone like that? Never even heard of that guy. You are a riot.

Still waiting for you to make 1 post that doesn't include something negative about black people. ....Just 1.
 

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don't have real proof. I just read in some blogs that CNN and MSNBC did it too. Don't have to check up on it---this sort of thing is very standard editing. Notice buncha other candidates in that graphic left out too.

you put an easy-to-read graphic up and you obviously ain't gonna clutter it up with buncha names most folks don't care about. I'm sure every news organization that put up such a graphic had to decide who to leave out so as to cut it down to digestable size.

The AP story carried in local papers folks reported that Tancredo was left in graphic shown there, but Paul left out. Some editor obviously thinking that Tancredo should be in there 'cause his numbers are double digit and not far off no.3.

these kinds of editing decisions aren't all cut and dry---but done all the time 'cause we don't have all the time in the world.
 
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I see where Hilliary & Bill are blocking release of her Whitehouse records till after election--Didn't they learn anything from Kerry? Hmm won't go on media but liberal networks--won't release info--

I assume you know that these records must be kept secret under a federal law called the Presidential Records Act. You know all about that - the sensitive stuff made so famous - and all encompassing by the current administration? Are they under the same scrutiny by you as the Clintons? Should they do what you are expecting the Clinton's to do and release all their information?

I think you think not - as far as the people you defend, anyway.

And so it goes...in the one sided half-story Wayne's World...
 

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don't have real proof. I just read in some blogs that CNN and MSNBC did it too.

Interesting. I'm checking the video archives of CNN and MSNBC, and they are both much more inclusive in the way they reported the results. ...Nothing remotely as bad as that FOX list anyway.

I don't believe this is "standard" as you say. It's standard to leave out those getting 1% or less, but not over 9% and 13%. Those are pretty significant numbers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm7D_EFZ7QM (all top finishers shown)

CHECK THIS ONE OUT!!!!:142smilie :142smilie :142smilie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgzfu_b6v44


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Here's FOX as the results came in....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46GFzF7hK8E

Here's CNN as the results came in...
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2007/08/11/iowa.straw.poll.results.cnn

Which coverage followed the "we report, you decide" mantra?
 

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Fox has gone out of their way to not mention the person who has won every GOP debate. ...Anyone who doesn't find that odd is sipping some of Gardenweasel's moonshine.
 

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When (if) Hillary is elected, let's see how patriotic and supportive the Weasel-types are. Let's see if he can acknowledge successes fairly instead of dwelling on negatives. Let's see if he doesn't "root for the enemy", as he accuses anyone who disagrees with him of doing simply to be able to say ' I told you so'.. It will be interesting...

chad:"Wow...you dismiss millions of soccer moms as being moronic because they might want to see a woman as President"...

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smurph...you mean the way you guys ackwoledge the successes of this republican administrations?.......lol...projection is a harsh mistress,ideed...

chad:...hmmm.....people electing public officials based on their race,ethnicity and gender?......they`re either a democrat or an anal cephalitic idiot or both......
 

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smurph...you mean the way you guys ackwoledge the successes of this republican administrations?.......lol...projection is a harsh mistress,ideed...

Yes, many of us here do. But what has there been in the last 5 years?

I thought they did an adequate job in the first couple months after 9/11. The initial invasion of Afghanistan was slower than it should have been, but it was the right move.

....But then they really started f'ng things up. Anyone who isn't blinded by partisanship should be able to acknowledge that.
 

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chad:...hmmm.....people electing public officials based on their race,ethnicity and gender?......they`re either a democrat or an anal cephalitic idiot or both......

Yeah, great point. No conservative republicans ever go to the voting booth preparing to vote "for whitey", do they? No conservatives routinely rail on ethnic groups as being subservient and dedicated to an entitlement-based government, do they? People on both sides of the aisle, and those in the middle of the aisle are often one issue or one item voters, and some reasons are less sensible than race or gender, especially considering electing a black person or a woman would break down a barrier for future generations. People certainly vote for less nobile reasons than that, you have to admit. Or you should, anyway. Blaming soccer moms for voting for a woman (and of course a woman who is impressive to most that don't consider her a threat) ignores the complete other side of the voting scenario - and brings in some pretty ugly voting patterns at the same time.

How many conservatives blatantly dismissed Obama and Hillary's chances of winning (or did, before it became painfully obvious that at least Hillary can be a player in the electoral process) BECAUSE they are a black or a woman? Plenty. And plenty do here, still.

Your comment, not mine, seems to emanate from an anal cephalitic idiot, my friend.
 
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