Iraq...Let's Look At Some Positive Notes

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This is a letter from Ray Reynolds, a medic in the Iowa Army National Guard, serving in Iraq:

As I head off to Baghdad for the final weeks of my stay in Iraq, I wanted to say thanks to all of you who did not believe the media. They have done a very poor job of covering everything that has happened. I am sorry that I have not been able to visit all of you during my two week leave back home. And just so you can rest at night knowing something is happening in Iraq that is noteworthy, I thought I would pass this on to you. This is the list of things that has happened in Iraq recently: (Please share it with your friends and compare it to the version that your paper is producing.)

* Over 400,000 kids have up-to-date immunizations.
* School attendance is up 80% from levels before the war.
* Over 1,500 schools have been renovated and rid of the weapons stored there so education can occur.
* The port of Uhm Qasar was renovated so grain can be off-loaded from ships faster.
* The country had its first 2 billion barrel export of oil in August.
* Over 4.5 million people have clean drinking water for the first time ever in Iraq.
* The country now receives 2 times the electrical power it did before the war.
* 100% of the hospitals are open and fully staffed, compared to 35% before the war.
* Elections are taking place in every major city, and city councils are in place.
* Sewer and water lines are installed in every major city.
* Over 60,000 police are patrolling the streets.
* Over 100,000 Iraqi civil defense police are securing the country.
* Over 80,000 Iraqi soldiers are patrolling the streets side by side with US soldiers.
* Over 400,000 people have telephones for the first time ever.
* Students are taught field sanitation and hand washing techniques to prevent the spread of germs.
* An interim constitution has been signed.
* Girls are allowed to attend school.
* Textbooks that don't mention Saddam are in the schools for the first time in 30 years.

Don't believe for one second that these people do not want us there. I have met many, many people from Iraq that want us there, and in a bad way. They say they will never see the freedoms we talk about but they hope their children will. We are doing a good job in Iraq and I challenge anyone, anywhere to dispute me on these facts. So If you happen to run into John Kerry, be sure to give him my email address and send him to Denison, Iowa. This soldier will set him straight. If you are like me and very disgusted with how this period of rebuilding has been portrayed, email this to a friend and let them know there are good things happening.

Ray Reynolds, SFC
Iowa Army National Guard
234th Signal Battalion
 

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That's great. I'd love to see his list of 'positive notes' for America. While it's nice that they now have Saddam-free textbooks, America is really all I care about.
 

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so then it's safe to say kosar, that all the invasions during the 8 yrs of blow job billy,. somalia, bosnia, bombing of the pill factory etc, you were against:confused:
 

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you notice that whenever positive things are brought up some people instantly find fault with it. you will never convince anyone who will consistently shut down information.
i bet that there are countless Iraqi's who are overjoyed that Saddam is gone. Of course it is messy over there. Democracy comes at the highest price, but it is imperative to stay the course for it to succeed.
And to completely freak everyone out I think we should put the Draft back into effect. most of our young people could use some major discipline.
 

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It is sooooo nice to hear some positives. Unlike Kosar, I care about all people and just because they were born over there instead of here doesn't mean they don't deserve things like clean water. The media sucks and they will just keep telling us all the bad stuff until at least the election is over but probably keep going with their bullshit agenda. Thanks Chopsticks. I'm sending it on.:D
 

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ctownguy said:
so then it's safe to say kosar, that all the invasions during the 8 yrs of blow job billy,. somalia, bosnia, bombing of the pill factory etc, you were against:confused:


Somalia- definitely was against that. We went into somewhere that we didn't understand and tried to use our power to impose our will on a group that never, ever would accept that. Sound familiar? That was dumb going there, but at least we realized it fairly quickly.

Bosnia-wouldn't exactly classify that as an 'invasion', since we didn't use any ground troops. :rolleyes: As best as I can tell in that one, we stopped a developing holocaust in it's tracks without losing one American life. Don't really have a problem with that one.

The pill factory- :shrug: Don't have much of an opinion on that one. It was an incredible longshot that that 'attack' would hit anything important. A weak effort, but I suppose it couldn't hurt trying, I guess. Kind of a non-issue either way to me.

What's your opinion on those three events?
 

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Mjolnir said:
you notice that whenever positive things are brought up some people instantly find fault with it. you will never convince anyone who will consistently shut down information.

I don't 'find fault' with our nation-building efforts. We're doing a good job putting up power lines and teaching them to wash their hands. I'm just not sure when we got in that business, especially on this big of a scale.
 

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pirate fan said:
It is sooooo nice to hear some positives. Unlike Kosar, I care about all people and just because they were born over there instead of here doesn't mean they don't deserve things like clean water.

Here we go again with these touchy-feely compassionate liberals again. Have to save the world at the expense of our own country.

We could invade, tear up and rebuild any country to better standards that pre-invasion if we wanted to. That doesn't mean we should.
 

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Yep, I'm sure so many of us Americans were losing sleep over the plight of the Iraqi people these past few years and were eagerly awaiting an American invasion so we could 'save' them with our generosity.
 

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Well it would be nice if we spent 100 billion on some of our own needs. We have plenty of cities that are dredful in need of complete overhaul. Maybe we should blow the chit out of them and rebuild. I agree nice for the Iraqis to get 7 new hospitals 50 new schools. Chit we could send our highway fund money to them to so they all get new roads. As for some of those that can wash there hands now. They never cared about that stuff in the past im not sure they give a chit now. You must remember were talking about tribes men. There some what like out Amish. They dont what new stuff. They like liveing as they did in the past.
 

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I'm sure they enjoyed their infant mortality rate and percentage of kids that never make it to adult status do to lack of medicine and health care. We are just spoiled. Life is life regardless what they think of us or us of them. I agree however they probably don't want alot of what we got..
 

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If they have that kind of health problems the whole world should give a chit not just us. As Bush said were not about nation bulding. You wnat real health care needs try Africa. Whos doing anything about that other then throwing some small sums of money. you wont here about 100 billion going there.
 

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I agree. It's a big world and we can't do it alone. It is a world problem that will probably never be resolved.
 

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djv said:
Well it would be nice if we spent 100 billion on some of our own needs. We have plenty of cities that are dredful in need of complete overhaul. Maybe we should blow the chit out of them and rebuild. I agree nice for the Iraqis to get 7 new hospitals 50 new schools. Chit we could send our highway fund money to them to so they all get new roads. As for some of those that can wash there hands now. They never cared about that stuff in the past im not sure they give a chit now. You must remember were talking about tribes men. There some what like out Amish. They dont what new stuff. They like liveing as they did in the past.

I'll have to say that I agree with this. I think our action in Iraq was warranted, but I can't stand this nation building stuff. We sent troops over there to find and destroy the WMD and nullify any future threat from there. If we're going to nation build, let's do it in a country like Haiti where the need is abundant and the people welcome you with open arms and thanks and where we would likely get reciprocation in the future (you'll notice that we don't hear about the Haitians ambushing the American marines sent over there), not this sandpit Iraq where we are still dodging bullets and bombs to this day. I don't profess to understand thouroughly military tactics or procedure, but something wasn't thought through very fully here. I'll also admit I didn't give a rat's a$$ about the Iraqi people then or now, mainly because I know the Muslim Middle East countries are always going to be a thorn in our side and don't appreciate help.
 

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Wilson said:
I thought it was in our best interest to have a democracy in the middle east? No?!! :shrug: :confused:


Well, of course that would be in our best interest, Wilson. It just isn't realistic to think that we can 'make' them be a democracy.
 

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I guess it was unrealistic to believe the wall in Berlin would come tumbling down, too? Unrealistic that a McDonalds would be in Moscow?

Whatever? Freedom is pretty powerful...not underestimate it.

:D
 

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bobbie you are a sarcastic asshole, why not try contributing something, oh wait maybe you are trying to unseat eddie as the biggest clown on the site.

Sorry didn't mean to interfere:rolleyes:
 

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Wilson said:
I guess it was unrealistic to believe the wall in Berlin would come tumbling down, too? Unrealistic that a McDonalds would be in Moscow?

Whatever? Freedom is pretty powerful...not underestimate it.

:D

Religious ideology is a much, much different animal than political. Believe it or not, not every country or person wants to live their lives like American's do.

Don't underestimate it.
 
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