Iraqi soldier kills 2 US soldiers

[Spytheweb]

WTF, why are we still in Iraq? Still spilling blood and spending big bucks, whats the mission? The war is over, let's get out and let the Iraqis put their country back together.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27674792/

 

[kosar]

Gardenweasel in 5...4....3.....2.....1.....

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Deaths in Iraq so far in 2008 atributed to
combat 221

Murders in ghettos of Chicago in 2008 -bout 500give or take.

" But if trends from the first seven months continue the rest of the year, Chicago would finish with more than 500 murders for the first time since 2003. That year, Chicago had more than 600 murders."

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/aug/06/local/chi-chicago-murders-upaug07

Appears the fire base base is safer than "the base"

--or I could pull stats of DC -Detroit-Philly etc if you prefer :shrug:

Got to run I put myself on one hour forum limits am and pm and my times bout up.

 

[THE KOD]

a US soldier slapped a Iraqi army person

shortly after shots rang out ?

wow did the slap happen ?

 

[ImFeklhr]

Deaths in Iraq so far in 2008 atributed to
combat 221

Murders in ghettos of Chicago in 2008 -bout 500give or take.

" But if trends from the first seven months continue the rest of the year, Chicago would finish with more than 500 murders for the first time since 2003. That year, Chicago had more than 600 murders."

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/aug/06/local/chi-chicago-murders-upaug07

Appears the fire base base is safer than "the base"

--or I could pull stats of DC -Detroit-Philly etc if you prefer :shrug:

Got to run I put myself on one hour forum limits am and pm and my times bout up.

Hmmm. I bet Chicago-Detroit-DC-Philly could put to use $340 million a day, to improve the lives of AMERICANS. More jobs? Better infrastructure? More police to investigate/prevent all those murders.

Why are Americans constructing some paradise in a country 10,000 miles away, instead of working in our own backyard. It's foolish. A waste!

 

[Happy Hippo]

Hmmm. I bet Chicago-Detroit-DC-Philly could put to use $340 million a day, to improve the lives of AMERICANS. More jobs? Better infrastructure? More police to investigate/prevent all those murders.

Why are Americans constructing some paradise in a country 10,000 miles away, instead of working in our own backyard. It's foolish. A waste!

That is way too logical of an answer for DTB.

Maybe if you pull up some stats on the correlation of the stock market and crime in inner cities it would make more sense.

Just trying to help out here.

 

[The Sponge]

Hmmm. I bet Chicago-Detroit-DC-Philly could put to use $340 million a day, to improve the lives of AMERICANS. More jobs? Better infrastructure? More police to investigate/prevent all those murders.

Why are Americans constructing some paradise in a country 10,000 miles away, instead of working in our own backyard. It's foolish. A waste!

Hopefully this will slap down that ridiculous case DTB post over and over again.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Hmmm. I bet Chicago-Detroit-DC-Philly could put to use $340 million a day, to improve the lives of AMERICANS. More jobs? Better infrastructure? More police to investigate/prevent all those murders.

Why are Americans constructing some paradise in a country 10,000 miles away, instead of working in our own backyard. It's foolish. A waste!

Really You might want to check some unemployments stats of some and you'll note they remain bout the same regardless of economy-
--and infra srtucture--thought O and Rezco went that route in Chicago and new buildings look same now as those replaced.

On spending money on police to investigate/prevent murders

Believe we've had ongoing war on poverty and crimes for decades--who's winning?

 

[StevieD]

Believe we've had ongoing war on poverty and crimes for decades--who's winning?

It ain't Bush

 

[gardenweasel]

Hmmm. I bet Chicago-Detroit-DC-Philly could put to use $340 million a day, to improve the lives of AMERICANS. More jobs? !

and if your aunt had a dick she`d be your uncle....

did you ever stop and consider that detroit/chicago/d.c./philly,all cesspools long before the iraq war,have been run by liberal politicians/policy/ideology since forever?....that unions and other liberal sycophants have turned these cities into large ghettos perpetually dependent on sucking the government tit?

of course not...i guess thinking is above many in the forum`s pay grade..


and i can`t believe that libs still allow themselves to be manipulated by this idiot stealth jihadi(if spy turns out to be eddie haskell,i`m tracking him down and ..and..i can`t say it in this forum )....


whether you like it or not,we`re there...and whether you like it or not,abandoning iraq before it becomes relatively stable would be a foreign policy disaster...yes,there are actually important foreign policy issues outside your little personal bubbles that are crucial to our quality of life and survival...

yes...there are actually people that actually want to kill us...i know bush has kept your ungrateful arses safe for 7 years,but that shouldn`t cause collective cognitive disonance....

stop encouraging this anti-american nitwit....

 

[StevieD]

and if your aunt had a dick she`d be your uncle....

did you ever stop and consider that detroit/chicago/d.c./philly,all cesspools long before the iraq war,have been run by liberal politicians/policy/ideology since forever?....that unions and other liberal sycophants have turned these cities into large ghettos perpetually dependent on sucking the government tit?

of course not...i guess thinking is above many in the forum`s pay grade..


and i can`t believe that libs still allow themselves to be manipulated by this idiot stealth jihadi(if spy turns out to be eddie haskell,i`m tracking him down and ..and..i can`t say it in this forum )....


whether you like it or not,we`re there...and whether you like it or not,abandoning iraq before it becomes relatively stable would be a foreign policy disaster...yes,there are actually important foreign policy issues outside your little personal bubbles that are crucial to our quality of life and survival...

yes...there are actually people that actually want to kill us...i know bush has kept your ungrateful arses safe for 7 years,but that shouldn`t cause collective cognitive disonance....

stop encouraging this anti-american nitwit....

Let us talk facts. I know that will be hard for you but just for a minute. Bush has kept us vulnerable to enemy attack. He has not secured the borders or the rails. or just about anything. funny, I bet Haliburton offices in Iraq are secure. We spend 10 billion a month in Iraq. 10 billion we don't have by the way. There was no need for bin Laden to attack us here. He took out a few buildings and sat back and watched us implode under the watchful eyes of Bush and Cheney.

Think of what this country would be like if some of that 10 billion a month was spent over here. On Americans.

 

[gardenweasel]

Let us talk facts. I know that will be hard for you but just for a minute. Bush has kept us vulnerable to enemy attack. He has not secured the borders or the rails. or just about anything. .

stevie, i agree on the border...that is an excellent point...kudos...

if bush were to be impeached for his border policy,or his lack of leadership on the ramos/compeon travesty of justice,i`d stand shoulder to shoulder with you...

but,do you really think that border security will increase under an obama administration?...the dems have fought practically every measure to secure the border(along with bush)...

but that doesn`t change the fact that we`ve been safe since 9/11...that"more vulnerable to attack" since 9/11 is a mindless liberal talking point...as is the b.s. about al qaeda being stronger....

it`s just not true....there are no facts to show that al qaeda has been more effective in attacking the west... we`re fighting them on their home turf....instead of ours...killed many of their top leaders...

the patriot act,like it or not,is a very effective anti-terrorism tool...and gitmo has succeeded in keeping terrorits off the battlefield(50 of those released from gitmo have been either re-captured or killed after returning to the battlefield)...

and now i`m reading that obama may not change bush`s "interrogation policies"(funny,it was called "torture" before obama became president elect....interesting how the media nomenclature changed along with the new administration,isn`t it? )...

isn`t it funny how things change when you`re the one in the cross hairs...

 

[StevieD]

stevie, i agree on the border...that is an excellent point...kudos...

if bush were to be impeached for his border policy,or his lack of leadership on the ramos/compeon travesty of justice,i`d stand shoulder to shoulder with you...

but,do you really think that border security will increase under an obama administration?...the dems have fought practically every measure to secure the border(along with bush)...

but that doesn`t change the fact that we`ve been safe since 9/11...that"more vulnerable to attack" since 9/11 is a mindless liberal talking point...as is the b.s. about al qaeda being stronger....

it`s just not true....there are no facts to show that al qaeda has been more effective in attacking the west... we`re fighting them on their home turf....instead of ours...killed many of their top leaders...

the patriot act,like it or not,is a very effective anti-terrorism tool...and gitmo has succeeded in keeping terrorits off the battlefield(50 of those released from gitmo have been either re-captured or killed after returning to the battlefield)...

and now i`m reading that obama may not change bush`s "interrogation policies"(funny,it was called "torture" before obama became president elect....interesting how the media nomenclature changed along with the new administration,isn`t it? )...

isn`t it funny how things change when you`re the one in the cross hairs...

If Obama keeps torturing prisoners than I will speak out against it. But
I will let him get in office for a month or so before I compain about it. I hear Right Wing Nut Radio calling this this the Obama Recession! Let's wait, until the guy does something before we complain about him.
Why do fear Obama being "tested" if in fact Bush has put together this great protection plan than Obama should benefit from it. Should he not?

How do you make the jump from us fighting in Iraq and being safe at home?

 

[Spytheweb]

and if your aunt had a dick she`d be your uncle....

did you ever stop and consider that detroit/chicago/d.c./philly,all cesspools long before the iraq war,have been run by liberal politicians/policy/ideology since forever?....that unions and other liberal sycophants have turned these cities into large ghettos perpetually dependent on sucking the government tit?

of course not...i guess thinking is above many in the forum`s pay grade..


and i can`t believe that libs still allow themselves to be manipulated by this idiot stealth jihadi(if spy turns out to be eddie haskell,i`m tracking him down and ..and..i can`t say it in this forum )....


whether you like it or not,we`re there...and whether you like it or not,abandoning iraq before it becomes relatively stable would be a foreign policy disaster...yes,there are actually important foreign policy issues outside your little personal bubbles that are crucial to our quality of life and survival...

yes...there are actually people that actually want to kill us...i know bush has kept your ungrateful arses safe for 7 years,but that shouldn`t cause collective cognitive disonance....

stop encouraging this anti-american nitwit....

Bush kept our @sses safe?

3,000 deaths on Sept 11, 2001. 4,185 Iraq soldiers deaths, 30,000+ wounded.

Not securing our borders:
Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.

This is how Bush has kept us safe.

The difference between crime and terrorism is terrorism is crime that embarrasses the government.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Hey Spy what happened to the Desert storm emblem.

Got a question--in your years with air Force were you ever issued a weapon?

Reason I ask I was reading this article and wondered if you were issued rubber gun in basic traing. :shrug:

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/airforcejoin/a/afbmtiweapon.htm
Surviving Air Force Basic Training

In the "old days" of Air Force Basic Military Training (AFBMT), recruits didn't even get to see a weapon until they went to the firing range. Then, they got to spend a couple of hours learning how to take the M-16 rifle apart, clean it, put it back together, and then a few more hours qualifying by actually firing the weapon. Sometime in 2003 or 2004, Air Force basic recruits were given "rubber duckies," (a rubber M-16) to use during certain portions of basic training.

Rubber Duckies are no more. Beginning in November 2005, recruits began receiving an M-16 replica on the first day of the first week of training (after "zero week"). The replica is exactly like the M-16 they will be expected to use in combat, except it won't fire. The replica is the same size, same weight, and has the exact same parts. The rifle-replica can be stripped and cleaned just like the real thing. It's an exact same replica, down to the small springs. To avoid confusing the replica with the real thing, the stocks on the replicas are painted blue.

After your "weapon" is issued you'll carry it with you throughout the remainder of basic training. You'll be required to treat this, just as if it were a loaded weapon, at all times. So, why doesn't the Air Force use real M-16s (other than on the firing range) in Air Force Basic? It's because real M-16s are a high-priority theft threat, and Air Force regulations require M-16s to be guarded by an armed guard, anytime they are outside of an alarmed

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Gary:

Have you realized, Bill kept us safe for 8 years! Kudos to the guy who will go down in history as the president who will always have one more year of keeping America safe than George Walker Bush.

I think in the hubub and rhetoric of the election we have lost sight of that plain and simple fact. The man who did not have sex with that woman (and he didn't) foiled the attempt on the WTC in 93. He was never given credit for how he kept those towers standing. It wasn't until a conservative got into office that those terrorists were able to knock them down.

A democratic president and a democratic congress in 93 and we have the two towers in NYC. What happens on 9-11 with a conservative republican president, a conservative republican majority in the house and senate and a conservative supreme court. It doesn't take a genius to figure this one out!!!!

Boom down they go and the country goes into lock down, fear, death and destruction all over. Well, I'll tell you whipper snappers, this attack on liberals is fine and dandy until you interject one little ole thing............ facts.

To my fellow centrists, try conservative logic for a while. It's fun.

But for now, lets get back to reality:

logic by black Barack : The lack of an attack don't mean jack, you whack. aint smokin no crack, mac. befo you take a different tac, hack. Or fo you gimme some flack, yolk sac. memba bush got da smarts of a mountain yak.

Fitty Eddie

 

[Gags]

and if your aunt had a dick she`d be your uncle....

did you ever stop and consider that detroit/chicago/d.c./philly,all cesspools long before the iraq war,have been run by liberal politicians/policy/ideology since forever?....that unions and other liberal sycophants have turned these cities into large ghettos perpetually dependent on sucking the government tit?

You have one fawked up brainwashed mind if you think unions and liberals are to blame for the poor inner city conditions. Perhaps you should think outside your box just once. I guess now that Obama and the Dems are in total control things will get worst? The only people that think that way are the one's that are still making a good living despite this economy, let me guess... you?
Conditions are bad in this country right now, we needed a complete change!

 

[ImFeklhr]

.yes,there are actually important foreign policy issues outside your little personal bubbles that are crucial to our quality of life and survival...

No on Prop 8? :shrug: