IRS wants those poker winnings

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Poker Tournament Sponsors Must Report Winnings to the IRS Starting in 2008 (IR-2007-173)

The IRS has issued a news release reminding poker tournament sponsors, including casinos, that they will be required to report most winnings to winners and the IRS starting on March 4, 2008. The new reporting requirement was first announced in September 2007 in Rev. Proc. 2007-57, I.R.B. 2007-36, 547 (TAXDAY, 2007/09/04, I.1). According to the IRS, the guidance was issued in order to clear up confusion among poker tournament sponsors and participants about withholding and information reporting obligations that apply with respect to tournament winnings.

Poker tournament sponsors will not be required to report winnings to the IRS with respect to tournaments that are completed during 2007 and prior to March 4, 2008. However, beginning March 4, 2008, tournament sponsors will be required to report winnings of more than $5,000 on Form W-2G, Certain Gambling Winnings.

According to the news release, tournament sponsors that comply with the new reporting requirement will not be required to withhold federal income tax at the end of the tournament. In the event that a sponsor fails to report the winnings, the IRS will not only enforce the reporting requirement but, in addition, will require the sponsor to pay any tax that would have been withheld from the winner had the withholding requirement been imposed. The withholding rate is normally 25 percent of the amount that should have been reported.

CCH Comment. The statement that poker tournament sponsors need not withhold federal income tax if they comply with the new reporting requirement was not contained in Rev. Proc. 2007-57. However, Rev. Proc. 2007-57 does state that "the IRS will not assert any liability for additional tax or additions to tax for violations of any withholding obligation with respect to amounts paid to winners of poker tournaments" if the tournament sponsor meets information reporting requirements.

Certain information to be used by the tournament sponsor for the purpose of completing the Form W-2G is to be supplied by the recipient of the winnings. Such information includes the winner's taxpayer identification number, which, for individuals, is usually his or her social security number. In the event that the winner fails to provide this information, the sponsor must withhold federal income tax at the rate of 28 percent.

Tournament winners are reminded that, by law, they are required to report all their winnings on their federal income tax return, regardless of the amount and regardless of whether or not they receive a Form W-2G or any other information return. This is true both before and after the new reporting requirement goes into effect.

IR-2007-173, 2007FED ?46,680


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I tried to work w/these bastards (Justice Dept) in 96' in an effort to attempt to regulate offshore gambling. June 96 '"We can assure you that no charges will be filed against any offshore operators. However, if/when the Kyll Bill is passed- its open season." OK. Understood. We send our Costa Rican attys. to DC to try and work w/these a-holes. Let's regulate this shit. I'm all for it! March 98'...Federal charges filed. Kyl bill hadn't even sniffed a vote. Kyl Bill ultimately is not passed when it finally reached the House floor in 2000. FU Feds! Liars, cheats, and overzealous US Attys trying to make a name for themselves. Yea, I'm talking to you Mary Jo White. "I got John Gotti Jr.!!!" Great. He was shaking down a few strip clubs- that's what the public is concerned about. Luckily, there wasn't greater concerns in the Southern District of New York in 96-98. These books are paying their winners and having the players post the $$ up. This is dangerous. How are the degenerates going to get way over their heads if they have to put the $$ up front? We need to dedicate no less than 4 agents and 2 years to "operation lesbian political advancement."
 

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I would say that compliance in efforts like this is a good thing for the long haul. If they are unable to effectively collect taxes on earnings, it really hurts the argument that it should be legalized here if, for no other reason, to keep the revenue and tax revenue state-side instead of offshore.

No matter how badly you don't like it, while our government depends on income taxes (my hatred for our current income tax setup is for another discussion), then you should pay taxes on all money earned... including gambling profits.

But as BDB stated, I doubt many of us here would actually owe money by year's end. :SIB
 

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I would say that compliance in efforts like this is a good thing for the long haul. If they are unable to effectively collect taxes on earnings, it really hurts the argument that it should be legalized here if, for no other reason, to keep the revenue and tax revenue state-side instead of offshore.

No matter how badly you don't like it, while our government depends on income taxes (my hatred for our current income tax setup is for another discussion), then you should pay taxes on all money earned... including gambling profits.

But as BDB stated, I doubt many of us here would actually owe money by year's end. :SIB

I 100% agree on paying taxes. I disagree with this 100% though. I've paid taxes on live winnings for the past 10 years. But I'm not getting into that on a public forum. I support taxes although who doesn't agree they suck.....but that's where we live.

I can't agree with this at all though, for something that is supposedly "illegal." If the US wants to step in and legalize online poker than by all means winners should pay taxes. But to pay taxes and admit to do something "illegal" well than that's wrong. The government can't have its cake and eat it too. If they deem it inappropriate and illegal, then why would anyone admit to doing it and pay taxes and admit guilt. Legalize it and all problems solved, but until then they have no right. It's exactly like saying the government wants taxes from cocaine dealers, bookies, etc.....


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dawgball

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I 100% agree on paying taxes. I disagree with this 100% though. I've paid taxes on live winnings for the past 10 years. But I'm not getting into that on a public forum. I support taxes although who doesn't agree they suck.....but that's where we live.

I can't agree with this at all though, for something that is supposedly "illegal." If the US wants to step in and legalize online poker than by all means winners should pay taxes. But to pay taxes and admit to do something "illegal" well than that's wrong. The government can't have its cake and eat it too. If they deem it inappropriate and illegal, then why would anyone admit to doing it and pay taxes and admit guilt. Legalize it and all problems solved, but until then they have no right. It's exactly like saying the government wants taxes from cocaine dealers, bookies, etc.....


gl

I may have misunderstood. Are these not legal gambling venues? I thought it mentioned casinos and such as the target of their request.
 
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