Trump is no dummy and he knows who his base is. He didn't get all hard core Republicans. He got people like me that hate Hillary. I like some stuff about Trump others I don't. But he got a lot of Dems and Indies. He will not be so fast to piss us off.
Is Gay Marriage Dead?
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Here is a small paragraph of a story that I just read to show you that there is nothing to worry about....
At least one member of the LGBT community is riding high after Donald Trump?s Election Day victory: Paypal billionaire Peter Thiel will be the president-elect?s advisor on technology and innovation.
At least one member of the LGBT community is riding high after Donald Trump?s Election Day victory: Paypal billionaire Peter Thiel will be the president-elect?s advisor on technology and innovation.
Oh, he's gonna surprise a LOT of people alright.........but the one's that voted for him, not against. You guys are all high on Trump Kool-aid right now.......but don't forget Jonestown. They all believed as well. :scared
Richard Grenell, the openly gay fav to be appointed as UN Ambassador, disagrees with you. Keep drinking that media kool-aid, Keyser
"Whatever happens on November 8, 2016 in the presidential race, Mr. Trump has forever changed the Republican party's support for LGBT equality and future Republican leaders will have a difficult time not meeting the new standard."
Among the times Trump has publicly shown his support of gay issues was at the Republican National Convention, Grenell wrote.
"It was the first time a GOP nominee embraced the gay and lesbian voter and appealed for their support in their nomination speech," Grenell writes, adding that he also invited PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel to speak at the convention, at which he publicly announced he was proud to be gay.
I just can't see any freedoms/rights already gained by the homosexual community being stripped. I can't see Roe v Wade being overturned either. I would be shocked.
Thinking more deeply, we actually have two very different issues. Homosexual equality I can't see being bothered bc what does anybody have to be gained? Plenty of millions of people especially in the area I call home don't like anything about gay rights, but it's not a hot button issue. People don't really talk about it, and all I hear are the random Neanderthals making "queer" jokes. Billy Bob doesn't like "fags", but he's used to them and is overall apathetic to a couple of gay people getting married. People really don't care.
Abortion on the other hand is a hot button issue still. I heard quite a few people claim support for Trump or disdain for Hillary with abortion rights being the main issue. People hated both but chose Trump bc he was more conservative. I don't like to put a whole lot of my politics out there bc I have found it's a waste of time arguing about them, but I will say I think abortion is very wrong and a horrible thing. However, even though I have that belief, I think trying to change Roe v Wade would be a huge mistake and very divisive for our country.
If there is a push to change anything, I think abortion will be tackled first. I don't think we are going to see any new freedoms for the gay community and especially not for the dudes that want to use the girls bathrooms during this administration.
Good discussion so far, keep it up.
Thinking more deeply, we actually have two very different issues. Homosexual equality I can't see being bothered bc what does anybody have to be gained? Plenty of millions of people especially in the area I call home don't like anything about gay rights, but it's not a hot button issue. People don't really talk about it, and all I hear are the random Neanderthals making "queer" jokes. Billy Bob doesn't like "fags", but he's used to them and is overall apathetic to a couple of gay people getting married. People really don't care.
Abortion on the other hand is a hot button issue still. I heard quite a few people claim support for Trump or disdain for Hillary with abortion rights being the main issue. People hated both but chose Trump bc he was more conservative. I don't like to put a whole lot of my politics out there bc I have found it's a waste of time arguing about them, but I will say I think abortion is very wrong and a horrible thing. However, even though I have that belief, I think trying to change Roe v Wade would be a huge mistake and very divisive for our country.
If there is a push to change anything, I think abortion will be tackled first. I don't think we are going to see any new freedoms for the gay community and especially not for the dudes that want to use the girls bathrooms during this administration.
Good discussion so far, keep it up.
http://www.hrc.org/2016RepublicanFacts/donald-trump-opposes-nationwide-marriage-equality
Donald Trump has been a consistent opponent of marriage equality. He has embraced the nation?s most odious anti-LGBTQ law, North Carolina?s HB2, and put on the ticket Mike Pence, who has become the face of anti-LGBTQ discrimination after signing a bill to allow businesses to discriminate and deny service to LGBTQ people because of who they are or whom they love. Trump has also said he would sign the so-called First Amendment Defense Act (FADA) which would enable Kim Davis-style discrimination across the country.
Marriage: Trump has been a consistent opponent of marriage equality. He said that he opposed it because he was a ?traditional? guy, choosing to support domestic partnership benefits instead. Trump later reversed himself and said he also opposed civil unions. Despite a brief flirtation with ?evolving? in 2013, Trump has consistently maintained his opposition to marriage equality, sometimes by citing polling and making an analogy to his dislike of long golf putters. After the Supreme Court ruling, Trump said the court had made its decision and, although he disagreed with the ruling, he did not support a constitutional amendment that would allow states to re-ban marriage equality. He later said he would appoint Supreme Court judges who would be committed to overturning the ruling.
Discrimination: While Trump at one time said that federal law should protect people from discrimination based on sexual orientation, he has taken aggressively anti-equality positions as a formal candidate. Trump has expressed support for the so-called First Amendment Defense Act (FADA) which would lead to more Kim Davis-style discrimination. He has declined to support the Equality Act.
http://christiannews.net/2016/11/14...e-sex-marriage-settled-and-im-fine-with-that/
President-elect Donald Trump told CBS? ?60 Minutes? this past week that he believes the issue of same-sex ?marriage? has been ?settled? by the U.S. Supreme Court and that he is ?fine with that.?
The interview, which aired Sunday night, included a variety of topics, such as immigration, abortion and the protests following the election.
?One of the groups that?s expressing fear are (sic) the LGBTQ group,? interviewer Leslie Stahl stated, referring to concerns from homosexual groups that Trump might null and void their nuptials.
?And yet I mentioned them at the Republican National Convention,? Trump interjected.
?You did,? Stahl agreed.
?Everybody said, ?That was so great.? I have been, you know, I?ve been a supporter,? Trump said.
Stahl then asked Trump about his personal views on same-sex ?marriage,? but he declined to divulge.
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?I guess the issue for them is marriage equality. Do you support marriage equality?? she inquired.
?It?s irrelevant because it was already settled,? Trump replied. ?It?s law. It was settled in the Supreme Court. I mean it?s done.?
?So even if you appoint a judge that?,? Stahl interjected, alluding to the possibility of overturning Obergefell.
?It?s done,? Trump stated. ?These cases have gone to the Supreme Court. They?ve been settled. And I?m fine with that.?
As previously reported, last month, Trump held up a rainbow ?LGBT?s for Trump? flag at the start of a campaign rally in Colorado after being handed the banner by a homosexual supporter. His campaign website also made available for purchase ?LGBTQ for Trump? t-shirts and pins.
Trump had additionally declared at a fundraiser in June that he is the best candidate for the ?gay community,? and in February, he replied in the affirmative when asked by a lesbian reporter if the nation can expect ?more forward motion? on homosexual issues if elected president.
In regard to abortion, Trump advised that he still plans on appointing pro-life justices, but said it was too soon to say what the result might be.
?f it (Roe v. Wade) ever were overturned, it would go back to the states,? he said.
?Yeah, but then some women won?t be able to get an abortion?? Stahl asked.
?No, it?ll go back to the states,? Trump replied.
He said that if abortion then becomes illegal in one state, that ?they?ll perhaps have to go to another state.?
?And that?s okay?? Stahl asked.
?Well, we?ll see what happens,? Trump stated. ?It?s got a long way to go, just so you understand. That has a long, long way to go.?
Trump had outlined before the election that he intends on appointing a Supreme Court justice like the late Antonin Scalia.
?I will strike down Roe v. Wade, but I will also strike down a law that is the opposite of Roe v. Wade,? Scalia outlined in a 2002 Pew Forum. ?You know, both sides in that debate want the Supreme Court to decide the matter for them. One [side] wants no state to be able to prohibit abortion and the other one wants every state to have to prohibit abortion, and they?re both wrong.?
?And indeed, there are anti-abortion people who think that the Constitution requires a state to prohibit abortion. They say that the equal protection clause requires that you treat a helpless human being that?s still in the womb the way you treat other human beings. I think that?s wrong,? Scalia further explained in a 2008 60 Minutes interview. ?I think when the Constitution says that persons are entitled to equal protection of the laws, I think it clearly means walking-around persons.?
