Is orlando that bad ? 21-1 odds?
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Dude, how is this of any relevance. Plus i think your full of shit sometimes. Cavs will win it, case closed.
i think orlando has shown us that we should take them on at least the spread and a little also on the ml for the remainder of this series.
well, did he bet all the 40-1+ longshots the last 3 years in the derby-preakness?
if so, maybe now he's even.
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I would be happy to take people's action if they are willing to lay those original odds before game 1 now that its tied up.... With the case closed, Im sure u would be willing to lay 1600 to win 200.00.... (I think original line was -850 actually)... Shit, Ill give you it at min 750.....
I think Clev is in deep trouble.... Even the refs cant save em if they continue to play so 2 dimensional....
Home Brewed, Who the F*ck are you? Are you still 100% sure Cleveland will beat Orlando??? Should everyone who takes long shots give their money to charity still... Take off your Lebron jersey and watch the games retard. Plus the relevance is UNDERDOGS do win... I know you're completely illogical so I was trying to make a point on a wager that happened recently that you MIGHT recall. :thefinger
GJN23, I already know you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer by reading your posts through the years. You can never admit when you're blatantly wrong and your logic is Joe Q. Public to perfection. Now go to the track and bet every horse that's chalk and let me know your outcome genius. You can't take anything other than chalk because they have zero value.
If Lebron doesn't make one of the biggest shots this past decade in the post season, Cleveland is done. However, he saved their ass and you fools can't admit that Orlando is a tough matchup for the Cavs. I guess Orlando leading 9-4 their last 13 meetings means nothing.
GJN23, I already know you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer by reading your posts through the years. You can never admit when you're blatantly wrong and your logic is Joe Q. Public to perfection. Now go to the track and bet every horse that's chalk and let me know your outcome genius. You can't take anything other than chalk because they have zero value.
If Lebron doesn't make one of the biggest shots this past decade in the post season, Cleveland is done. However, he saved their ass and you fools can't admit that Orlando is a tough matchup for the Cavs. I guess Orlando leading 9-4 their last 13 meetings means nothing.
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as usual you miss the point.
the point is.......ist not very smart to make a bet soley based on "VALUE"........make the bet because you truly believe they will WIN THE BET YOUR MAKING.
in this case......a betting orlando becasue they are 21-1, when they dont even offer or entertain if they can actually win 2 more seires....if you think orl can win, great, bet them at whatever odds they are becasue your convinced they are going to win the title.....but to soley base your bet on the fact that one thinks 21-1 is "great value" is riduculous....
and yes, i bet dogs, a lot.....but there's a difference in betting dogs and betting "future, to win it all" bets" such as this one.
THATS WHAT I WAS SAYING ALL ALONG PEOPLE!
THATS WHAT I WAS SAYING ALL ALONG PEOPLE!
At 21-1 odds I asked are they really that bad?
I am not a sports better,I play poker for a living.
But I love to bet on sport, which is why I come to you guys.
I thought Orlando could take cleveland, and I also thought they could give denver a tough time.
Of course usually what I think is wrong, thats why I come here. Oh and I did say denver thats right.:scared
these are the bets I made:
20-1 that denver and orlando would both advance
6-1 orlando would beat cavs
21-1 orlando would take it all.
theres great value in all those bets cause
A there is great return
b I thought orlando is a way better team then anybody is saying and can win it all
THATS WHAT I WAS SAYING ALL ALONG PEOPLE!
At 21-1 odds I asked are they really that bad?
I am not a sports better,I play poker for a living.
But I love to bet on sport, which is why I come to you guys.
I thought Orlando could take cleveland, and I also thought they could give denver a tough time.
Of course usually what I think is wrong, thats why I come here. Oh and I did say denver thats right.:scared
these are the bets I made:
20-1 that denver and orlando would both advance
6-1 orlando would beat cavs
21-1 orlando would take it all.
theres great value in all those bets cause
A there is great return
b I thought orlando is a way better team then anybody is saying and can win it all
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dumb thinking.....i took tampa bay rays 25-1 to win the division last year....did i actually think they would win it? No.
But, in a theoretical 25 year trial, I figured they would win the division at least twice. I was proved right.
Also took Arizona +2500 in middle of last year's NFL was able to hedge it. Did I think it would actually happen? No, but I knew that if any of the favs slipped up, Arizona would be the team that could swoop in and represent the NFC.
well 25-1 for arizona was horrible "value" as they were 40-1 a week before the playoffs started.
there are always cases that are going to pay off at long odds.....the point is.....making a must win/future bet ONLY because it offers value is a losing proposition in the long run, not a profitable proposition.
horrible compared to the 40-1, doesnt mean there wasn't value, period.
if they are losing propositions in the long run, then you are a horrible judge of value. Case closed.
if they are losing propositions in the long run, then you are a horrible judge of value. Case closed.
we're talking the nba..........show me the last great "value" to WIN the title?
as i pointed out earlier in the thread, it's almost ALWAYS 1/2 seeds that win the title and usually 1 seeds with home court.
nobody pointed out that orlando has superior talent, can win on the road, has the better matchup, has better coaching, better talent, etc, etc, etc over CLEV-LA-DEN......all valid reasons to bet them......THEN throw in their odds at 21-1....great....go ahead.
all that was said was what great value this team is at 21-1, the odds justified the play, etc.....
lol, doesn't matter what happened in the past. Nobody had repeated for 20 years, then after the Lakers did it in the 80's it happened for the next 15 years.
A 3 seed losing last year isn't going to make Hedo's shot not go in tomorrow.
A 3 seed losing last year isn't going to make Hedo's shot not go in tomorrow.
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How is throwing the ball to Dwight Howard then setting up a bunch of 3 point shooters better coaching than Phil Jackson and the triangle or George Karl bringing together a bunch of misfit thugs?
Truth is, if Van Gundy was anywhere near the calibar of coach hed be mopping teams off the floor with Dwight and that pack of shooters.
never said it was better coaching......those were idead/angles that someone would point out/use if they thought orlando was going to win it all, not just that they were 21-1
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I didn't take any long shots or any heavy favourites, i got the Cavs to win the title at +150 awhile ago and still do think the Cavs can win it and firmly believe that the Magic will not win the title. The Cavs should level the series in the next game. I'm done with this thread too.
Home Brewed, you might not be a bad guy, but you made the comment about Cleveland being 100% likely to beat Orlando :mj07:
Cavs will have to win 3 in a row now which isn't likely. However, since you're 100% sure it's going to happen, jump on the Cavs winning the series ML right now at nice odds!:director:
The people who took Orlando at 21-1 odds to win it all can hedge in the Finals if Orlando can win 1 of the last 3.
Cavs will have to win 3 in a row now which isn't likely. However, since you're 100% sure it's going to happen, jump on the Cavs winning the series ML right now at nice odds!:director:
The people who took Orlando at 21-1 odds to win it all can hedge in the Finals if Orlando can win 1 of the last 3.
