Is the Organic Food Industry a Scam?

Duff Miver

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Well, I think a lot of people are paying for organic and getting what everyone else is getting, growing it on your own is the only way to know for sure. This place is better when people don't throw insults out, for NO reason.

Just so you know.

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Tell me once more, skulnutz, what is the difference between organic and inorganic food?
 

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Organic/Inorganic Materials

All materials are categorized as either organic or inorganic. Organic materials are made from (or extracted from) plants or animals. Inorganic materials are made from rocks and minerals.

Organic materials include wood, paper, textiles, and animal parts (ivory, bone, leather). They also include some natural materials that are not obviously organic (such as coal and fuel oil, which are derived from fossilized plants and animals) and some synthetic materials (such as plastics, which are made from chemicals extracted from plant and animal products). All organic materials deteriorate over time.

Inorganic materials include stone, metal, ceramic, and glass, which are all made from rocks or minerals. Some inorganic materials are found in paper-based formats: photographs contain metallic particles; some pigments and inks contain minerals, metals, or metallic oxides; and metal particles are sometimes found in paper itself. Inorganic materials are generally stable individually, but they can react with other materials to cause deterioration. Some metals (particularly iron, copper, and platinum) react with the cellulose in paper. Like organic materials, inorganic materials can be natural or synthetic (e.g., some pigments occur naturally as minerals but can also be manufactured from other inorganic materials).



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Organic materials are made from (or extracted from) plants or animals. Inorganic materials are made from rocks and minerals.

Good for your, Skulnutz. You finally found a definition.

So, tell me when is the last time you ate, or even saw for sale an inorganic food?

Where is there, by the definition you put up, an inorganic tomato, or chicken, or taco? Have you ever seen or heard of a cheeseburger made from "rocks and minerals"?

Of course not.

Now stop being so Goddamn fucking stupid. All food is organic.
 

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Good for your, Skulnutz. You finally found a definition.

So, tell me when is the last time you ate, or even saw for sale an inorganic food?

Where is there, by the definition you put up, an inorganic tomato, or chicken, or taco? Have you ever seen or heard of a cheeseburger made from "rocks and minerals"?

Of course not.

Now stop being so Goddamn fucking stupid. All food is organic.

Not so fast, my self-righteous, pompous friend.

"Genetically modified crops, also known as GM or GMOs (genetically modified, or genetically modified organisms), are plants with altered DNA, giving them greater resistance to herbicides or improved nutritional content.

GM foods were originally intended to reduce disease in crops, leading to larger output at less cost.

According to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), there are more than 40 plant varieties that have met federal requirements so far.

There are several criticisms of GM foods, including risks to both human health and to our environment.

In humans, GM foods are assessed for nutritional content, toxicity levels and any allergic reactions that might occur from eating them.

Of concern to the environment is the possibility that a GMO can be introduced into wild populations, with the development of pesticide-resistant insects.

Possible detrimental consequences to plant and wildlife biodiversity are also under investigation.

Unlike the strict standards in place for organic farmers, there is no mandate that foods containing GMOs must be labeled as such in the U.S.

At the 12th Scientific Conference of the International Federation of Organic Agriculture Movements (IFOAM) in 1988, more than 60 countries voted unanimously against the use of GMOs in food production and agriculture because they felt there were unacceptable risks involved: threats to human health, a negative and irreversible environmental impact, incompatibility with sustainable agriculture, and a violation of rights for both farmers and consumers.

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Granted, this conference was held nearly 25 years ago. So correct me if I'm wrong...for some reason, I just don't think our nation is getting any smaller (and I'm not referring to an increase in population).

I wonder if it has anything to do with "growth accelerators?"
 

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Not so fast, my self-righteous, pompous friend.

"Genetically modified crops

Fuck you, Buddy. All food is organic. Period.

Crops and animals have been improved by genetic modification since prehistoric man picked the two largest chickens to breed them together to make fatter, juicier chickens.

And since Mendel improved the yield of peas.

All food is organic, and it is cheaper and more readily available because of intentional selective breeding.

Do you really want to go back to eating slices of those little, sour dry tomatoes on your burger made from a piece of stringy wild buffalo?

I'll tell you once again, pay attention: All food is organic. There is no such thing as inorganic food.

Virtually everything you now eat is genetically modified in one way or another.

If that bothers you, go sign up with the Inuit. They eat genetically unmodified whale blubber. Three meals a day. And they develop Arteriosclerosis and die before they're 60. Unless they die of starvation first.
 

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You're wrong.

Organic food does not contain pesticides, artificial sweetners or sodium nitrites.


Completely wrong, buddy.

Many edible fruits naturally contain pesticides, everything from tomatoes to peppers and garlic.

You can look it up.

Artificial sweetners? You mean sucrose, fructose? Natural in everything from watermelon to peaches and a hundred other food plants.

You can look it up.

Sodium nitrite? One stalk of celery contains more than a gram, not to mention dozens of other plants.

You can look it up.

So, buddy, tell us again the difference between organic and inorganic food. LMAO!
 

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I picked 110 pounds of green beans yesterday - do you KNOW how many green beans it takes to make 110 pounds???

A LOT.

Anyway, not a single inorganic bean in there....

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Enlighten us, Oh Wise One. What is your definition of "organic?"

(This ought to be good)


To his credit, Skulnutz finally got around to posting the correct definitions of organic and inorganic.

Read for yourself.

You didn't understand those basic facts.

If must hurt like a red-hot poker up yr ass to be even dumber than Skulnutz.
 

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Fruit and Vegetables to Eat Organic

Fruit and Vegetables to Eat Organic

Fruit and Vegetables to Eat Organic

Eating organic carries with it a lot of advantages.

For one, farm workers don?t get exposed to harmful chemicals
since no fertilizers are used to grow organic produce.

Secondly, consumers are able to avoid ingesting the pesticide
Residue found in regular crops.

However, organic food is definitely more expensive and
most families aren?t willing to shell out extra money.

By switching to organic when shopping for the fruit and
vegetables in the list below, you can drastically reduce
your exposure to chemical residues.

Apples

As many as 40 different types of pesticides have been found
in apples primarily because pest and fungus threats
have been forcing farmers to spray chemicals in their orchards.

Some people say that you can peel the skin off to reduce
your exposure to pesticides, but doing so will only remove
many of the apple?s nutrients.

If you there are no organic apples in your local grocery,
safer options are bananas, watermelons, and tangerines.

Peaches

More than 60 different kinds of pesticides
have been discovered in peaches.

Single-serving packs have almost the same number,
while the canned variety contains less.

If you want safer alternatives with the almost the same
nutritional value, opt for tangerines, oranges,
watermelon, and grapefruit.

Strawberries

Fungus prompts farm workers to spray chemicals onto these
berries, andmuch residue is left in berries
sold in supermarkets.

More than 60 different kinds of pesticides have been found
in fresh strawberries, although less has been found
in frozen berries.

Safer substitutes for organic strawberries include
pineapples and kiwi.

Blueberries

Like other fruits and vegetables in this list, at least
50 types of pesticides have been spotted
in blueberries.

Frozen blueberries, however, seem to be less contaminated.

Unfortunately, alternatives such as cherries and
cranberries often have pesticide residue themselves.

So if you can?t find organic blueberries for
your breakfast cereal, try bananas.

Grapes

Imported grapes have been found to contain
at least 30 different pesticides.

So do raisins.

It makes you wonder how much pesticide residue wine
from farmed grapes contains.

Spinach

This vegetable tops the list of green leafy vegetables with
the highest pesticide residue found.

Around 50 kinds of pesticides have been found in spinach,
both fresh and frozen.

However, the canned variety has fewer detected residues.

Potatoes

Almost every household in the US consumes this vegetable.

Unfortunately, at least 35 pesticides were discovered
in potatoes during USDA testing.

If you want an option that?s safer yet as delicious,
go for sweet potatoes.

Lettuce

This vegetable is at par with spinach in terms
of pesticide residue content.

At least 50 different pesticides have been isolated in lettuce.

If there?s no organic lettuce in your area, a safer alternative
would be asparagus.

Celery

Celery doesn?t belong to the three categories of produce that
contain the highest levels of pesticide residue ? leafy greens,
berries, and tree fruits.

Nonetheless, tests conducted by the USDA indicate that
there are at least 60 types of pesticides in celery.

If you cannot find organic celery in your local store, try radishes,
broccoli, and onions for their similar crunch.
 
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