is there any site that tracks turnovers

[tball]

and is easy to read w/o going through game box scores? or, morelikely, am i looking in all the wrong areas.

ie. qb hasnt thrown an int in soo many weeks, or no lost fumbles for this team in this many away games and such. -it doesnt hafta read like that(as is admittedly hard to read) though if able to get info all the same, appreciated. thanks, t

 

[IE]

turnover table:

 

[tball]

thanks

thanks

off to crunch #'s kurby

 

[tball]

3-3.5 games

3-3.5 games

sd has NOT had a takeaway in L5 weeks.
ind only has 1 fum lost all year(WK 1). ind has NOT turned ball over in L3 weeks.

NYG avg 3 takeaways L5 weeks (5-0 ATS L5)
ARI avg 2 L5 games (4-1 ATS)
ARI has only had 1 SU Loss, W ATS (as dog 1-3)
last NYG ATS L was in WK 6 (SU L @CLV)

wash and sea similar in that SU is usually ATS result

WAS (6-4 su, 5-5 ats) only 1 SU W that was a ATS L, was a home game
ARI (2-8 su, 4-6 ats) only 2 SU L's were ATS W's
*WASH is 0-2 L2(3 SU L's?)

FAV has covered in L8 meetings since '95

NO/GB
every week theres ben a THUR game the winning side (either fav/dog) was same in MON night

ie. dog covers on thurs, dog cover on mon.

this weeks thur result FAV(pitt)=NO?

GB ATS record: W2, L3, W5
NO ATS record: W1, L2, W1, L1, W1, L1, W1


BUFF is 0-4 ATS L4, KC is 3-1 ATS L4

going with these for my "middling" games

SD wins turnover battle, somehow--thats the only case i can make for them being FAV here.
SD -3

ARI covers, maybe wins? yeah, why not
ARI +3.5

WASH wins/covers
Wash -3.5

NO mirrors early 2 game trend, only on opposite, and Wins 2 in a row
NO-2.5

BUFF covers--yes that means they win too I suppose
BUFF -3
-thoughts of buffalo '66 from clev game ending. "I drive luxury cars, they shift themselves, see? luxury cars."

other selections: hou+, nyj+, ne+, sf+, det+, balt-, chi-, jax-, atl-, oak+

UPSETS: <--thats me being upset, only if they dont cover, but not surprised if these teams snatch defeat from the jaws...err, the other way around.

NE should win--hard to beat same decent team twice same yr. for the record, CASSEL and Thigpen (KC) did suck this yr. looks like both have recognized where preverbial corner to turn is--are they rounding into NFL starters? say same for OAK's QBs? -more on that later

thoughts are that tenn will lose at least twice this yr--this week? to a team that lost to OAK? watch it happen. (for the record, i'm not an OAK basher--i actually really like their defense; owner...not soo much)

DET not a team that should -or will- finish without a W -though might be too busy sticking it to gmroz this week to W

I actually think GB is the team that should be favored for MNF, but siding with oddsmakers on that one--an opp-o pick.

think ARI plays out of their minds vs giants--and wins a GOOD GAME.

does seabass and OAK D outscore a leveling off DEN team?

GLA, t

 

[Chaser1965]

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/stats

Can find just about anything here.

 

[USCMD]

OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS NO OTHER STAT BETTER CORRELATES WITH ATS W/L THAN TURNOVERS.

Theres a ridiculous stat that fox puts up every other week that goes something like being +1 in to's translates into winning 74% of the time.

bol

 

[Statman02]

Turnovers
Rank Team Turnover Ratio Average Turnovers
1 Tennessee Titans 10 1.000
2 Kansas City Chiefs 9 0.900
3 Cleveland Browns 8 0.800
4 Green Bay Packers 7 0.700
5 New York (NYG) Giants 7 0.700
6 Miami Dolphins 7 0.700
7 Chicago Bears 6 0.600
8 Indianapolis Colts 6 0.600
9 Arizona Cardinals 5 0.500
10 Carolina Panthers 3 0.300
11 Atlanta Falcons 3 0.300
12 Philadelphia Eagles 3 0.300
13 Oakland Raiders 3 0.300
14 Washington Redskins 2 0.200
15 New England Patriots 2 0.200
16 Jacksonville Jaguars 2 0.200
17 Baltimore Ravens 1 0.100
18 New York (NYJ) Jets 1 0.100
19 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1 0.100
20 Pittsburgh Steelers 0 0.000
21 Seattle Seahawks -3 -0.300
22 Cincinnati Bengals -4 -0.364
23 San Diego Chargers -5 -0.500
24 New Orleans Saints -5 -0.500
25 St. Louis Rams -5 -0.500
26 Minnesota Vikings -6 -0.600
27 Detroit Lions -7 -0.700
28 Dallas Cowboys -7 -0.700
29 Buffalo Bills -9 -0.900
30 Denver Broncos -10 -1.000
31 San Francisco 49'ers -12 -1.200
32 Houston Texans -13 -1.300

 

[IntenseOperator]

from another cave (IE level quality read imo) .....

NFL '08: Which stats have mattered most?


Without digging any deeper than what you find in the current NFL standings, it?s easy to see that there has been a definitive shift in the NFL season compared to recent years when it comes to which types of teams are enjoying success. For most of this decade, the dominant teams have been those with the best quarterbacks, or those able to best generate big plays through the passing game. In particular, the Pass Yards Per Attempt statistical leaderboard was very telling.

However, it seems that this season, defense has taken center stage. Apparently, teams have taken hold of what the Giants did to the league?s best three passing teams during last year?s playoff surge, and ran with it. The ability to pressure the passer and minimize big plays from an opposing offense has now become paramount.

To validate this theory, I?ve taken on a statistical study analyzing the strengths and weaknesses of the best and worst teams in the league. I call this my Which Stats Matter Most study.

The basics of the analysis are simple, and there are two parts to the study. In the first part, I look at the Top 5 and Bottom 5 teams in a variety of statistical categories and I combine the straight up and ATS won-lost records of the teams. The assumption is that the greater the percentage margin between the top teams and the bottom teams, the more critical that statistical category is to success, and vice versa. The second part of the study takes these same stat categories and summarizes the SU & ATS won-lost records of the teams that had advantages over their opponent in that category heading into any game between Week 2 & 10.

Here are the findings of the 2-part study. Keep in mind that because of the extensive nature in compiling the figures, I was only able to use data that included the Week 10 results. The Week 11 games are not part of either portion.

Top 5/Bottom 5 Teams Compilation
The chart below illustrates the 17 different stat categories I analyzed. They are sorted in order of the margin of ATS won-lost record between the Top 5 teams and Bottom 5 teams combined.

It is interesting to note that five of the Top 7 ranked categories are defense-specific, and one is Turnover Differential. Essentially, it is the physical styles of teams like Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Carolina, and New York that are winning out over the more offensive oriented teams like New Orleans and San Diego. This is clearly a trend to watch the rest of this season and into the coming years. Perhaps we are witnessing an era change in the NFL.

Pre-Game Stat Edges
After analyzing the combined records of the teams ranked highest or lowest in the given stat categories, I went back and determined the records of the teams that had edges in those specific statistics heading into any given game this season. After all, in hindsight it?s easy to say that you should have been backing Tennessee, Baltimore, or the Giants this season, and fading teams like Denver. The tougher job is to pick teams game by game and to use the results you?ve come up with to forecast future games.

In any case, the table below shows the straight up and ATS records of teams that held edges in these stats going into their games. You?ll notice once again that almost all of the most successful angles are either defensive stat edge oriented or fading the opponent with the offensive edge in a specific stat.

In order to put this information to use in the Week 12 NFL board, we can quickly scan the stat pages at a site like *********, sort the teams by whichever category we choose, and then compile the teams. Here are a few samples of what I mean using the results from the table above.


Play on Teams that have a Defensive Yards Per Play edge. (78-50 SU, 71-55 ATS in ?08)
Teams qualifying for Week 12: Pittsburgh, Houston, Buffalo, Tennessee, Miami, Dallas, Tampa Bay, Baltimore, Chicago, Minnesota, Carolina, Oakland, Washington, NY Giants, Indianapolis, Green Bay


Play on Teams that have a Defensive Rush Yards Per Game edge. (83-45 SU, 70-56 ATS in ?08)
Teams qualifying for Week 12: Pittsburgh, Houston, Buffalo, NY Jets, Miami, San Francisco, Tampa Bay, Baltimore, Chicago, Minnesota, Carolina, Denver, Washington, NY Giants, San Diego, New Orleans


Play on Teams that have a Defensive Points Per Game edge. (78-49 SU, 69-56 ATS in ?08)
Teams qualifying for Week 12: Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Buffalo, Tennessee, New England, Dallas, Tampa Bay, Baltimore, Chicago, Jacksonville, Carolina, Oakland, Washington, NY Giants, Indianapolis, Green Bay

Do the same for the lowest rated offensive stat edges and fade those teams the rest of the way. At the very least it will give you a foundation to build your betting tickets upon, with a heavy concentration on what has been working best this season.

 

[Fast Eddie]

interesting read. good work. I've always tried to value defensive numbers more than the offense. Nice to see some sort of confirmation. thanks