Is This Possible?
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No it isn't.......tie both teams move on. It doesn't make any difference if it is a Team Sport or an Individual Sport, get the tie and move forward:0053
If both teams just listened to kickserv......lots of time would have been saved, just sayinkurby
If Chargers didn't call a time-out at the end there.....I think the game would have ended in a tie:scared:scared:scared
Crazy:scared:scared:scared
If Chargers didn't call a time-out at the end there.....I think the game would have ended in a tie:scared:scared:scared
Crazy:scared:scared:scared
You can't tie in tennis (well technically I guess you can, you can have a "double default" where neither player wins, meaning both players lose, thus I guess technically that could be called a tie because nobody won) but you can have scenario in the Qualifying draw where both players (or doubles team) advance to the Main Draw.
In the final round of qualifying, if you win your match, you advance to the Main Draw. If you lose in the final round of qualifying you are eliminated..........BUT, you can still get into the Main Draw if somebody pulls out of the Main Draw. This is called being a a "lucky loser". "Lucky Losers" are awarded to the highest ranked loser in the final round of qualifying. So sometimes in the final round of qualifying there is a player who knows if he wins or loses he's getting into the Main Draw (he's the highest ranked player left in the draw). That player shows up on court, plays for about 2 minutes and retires, and everybody wins. He advances via a "lucky loser" spot and the player he lost against also advances into the Main Draw. So yep, that explains how both players can advance to the next round.
And yes I know this well, because that exact situation happened to me. It is a smart move by the player to retire, why play a match and get injured and fuck everything up, just retire and move into the Main Draw. You are being rewarded for your high ranking, simple as that.
Now keep in mind the "Lucky Loser" rule I explained above was changed in 2008 at all Grand Slams and ATP Tour level events. But the situation I described above can still happen at the lower level events (Challengers and Futures). At Grand Slams and ATP Tour Level Events there is now a random draw for the top 4 players that lost in the final round of qualifying. So in other words if there was one spot open in the Main Draw for a "Lucky Loser" and you were the top ranked player to lose in qualifying you'd have a 25 percent chance of getting in the Main Draw not 100 percent.
Of course the Raiders didn't have to kick the field goal they could have just let the time run out and both teams would have been in the playoffs......go figure:shrug:
No question about that........it was one crazy ass game, that was for sure:scared
there was rank motivation, raiders would have gone to kc with a tie ..def worth a fg attempt to improve on that trip
and since theres a few more steelers fans on the planet than chargers this works out better for just about everyone :SIB
100 percent guarantee you are in the playoffs if you let the clock run out.......still a chance you lose if you kick the field goal (blocked and returned for a TD). If that field goal was blocked and returned for a TD everybody on here would be saying it was the dumbest coaching decision in the history of sports.
So to recap....I disagree with your "rank motivation" stance:chairshot Even though I have never heard the term "rank motivation" before:mj07:
some comedic genius in here I tell ya....
some comedic genius in here I tell ya....
BUT... on a serious note, I had Raiders and OVER for 2H and didn't need to watch the end. But I'm curious, I wanted to see the end, but a family crisis prevented it, then someone switched channels before I got back to the TV to rewind. So somebody recap it for me....
Raiders had the ball, clock was running out, we're they lined up to run a play or kick a fg, or just on the field waiting when CHARGERS called timeout? :shrug: I mean, if the Raiders were good with a tie and advance, why in the hell wouldn't LAC be happy with it? Makes no sense... and if LV was going to take a delay in game, obviously that moves them back and makes FG less likely. Seems LV was set for tie, didn't want to risk FG BLOCK for TD, and played safe, and for some reason LA Coach played really really stupid :0008
some comedic genius in here I tell ya....
BUT... on a serious note, I had Raiders and OVER for 2H and didn't need to watch the end. But I'm curious, I wanted to see the end, but a family crisis prevented it, then someone switched channels before I got back to the TV to rewind. So somebody recap it for me....
Raiders had the ball, clock was running out, we're they lined up to run a play or kick a fg, or just on the field waiting when CHARGERS called timeout? :shrug: I mean, if the Raiders were good with a tie and advance, why in the hell wouldn't LAC be happy with it? Makes no sense... and if LV was going to take a delay in game, obviously that moves them back and makes FG less likely. Seems LV was set for tie, didn't want to risk FG BLOCK for TD, and played safe, and for some reason LA Coach played really really stupid :0008
As stated above, the Raiders could have let the clock run out, yes the Chargers time-out called wasn't smart, but it ended up not making a difference, the Raiders called a time-out with 2 seconds left to kick the field goal. Now yes the Raiders might have just "run the clock out" if the Chargers time-out wasn't called. But they still could have run the clock out anyway. There was 2 seconds left when they called the time-out, even if you are on the 5 yard line YOU SHOULD NOT KICK THE FIELD GOAL. I'll say it again, if the Field Goal was blocked and returned for a TD we'd have people on here saying it was the dumbest coaching decision in the history of sports (and they would have been right). Instead we have some on here (LA Burns for one) calling the Chargers coaching staff idiots for a time-out which might have made no difference anyway.:facepalm:
Bottom line is this, the time-out didn't 100 percent decide the outcome, the Raiders deciding to kick a field goal and not letting two more seconds run off the clock did. And in my opinion Field Position meant nothing, no matter where you are on the field at that time you should NOT BE KICKING A FIELD GOAL when you are 100 percent guaranteed to advance if you let two more seconds run off the clock
And I'll go back to what I said before the game started, both teams should have just knelt on the ball for just over an hour and moved on to the playoffs.
The dumbest coaching decision was NOT with the Chargers, it was with the Raiders (deciding to kick the field goal).
Or to put it another way........nobody would be saying shit about a time-out if the Field Goal was blocked and returned for a TD.
The Raiders ended up having the option to run the clock out regardless if that time-out was called or not.
The Raiders ended up having the option to run the clock out regardless if that time-out was called or not.
QUOTE herman Edwards ...."YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME"
and add this lil nugget to your notes any team wth a TIED game never WON a SB including the ONE who got there the 49er 's -4.5 - 5 vs Ravens got close losing by 4 points trying to score at end of game but failed all 4 downs
THEY should revise OT play until someone wins NO time limits same rules apply if either team scores A TD or safety 1st game over
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and add this lil nugget to your notes any team wth a TIED game never WON a SB including the ONE who got there the 49er 's -4.5 - 5 vs Ravens got close losing by 4 points trying to score at end of game but failed all 4 downs
THEY should revise OT play until someone wins NO time limits same rules apply if either team scores A TD or safety 1st game over
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