it looks like the dems are making another huge blunder...

[AR182]

it looks like howard dean will be the chairman of the democratic party......that's what the dems need another spokeman from the northeast......wrong !!!

i don't understand their thinking but stratigically they would be better served if they would have elected somebody from a red state.....

as somebody who was a registered democrat since 1968 & became a registered independent in 2002...i have stated that the dems, post 911,will not have a man in the white house in the near future....& imo,this blunder just reinforced this.

this party is going back to the eugene mccarthy & george mcgovern days.......& i stated before they will go the way of the whig party.

 

[AR182]

one more thing about dean......a few weeks ago he yelled out that he "hates republicans"......

this loose cannon will turn many people off.....

 

[Englishman]

Ssshhhhhh!!!

It's all going perfectly.

 

[kosar]

I agree, that party is rudderless and Dean is an obnoxious idiot. Not a good move. It's amazing how close Kerry came to winning.

 

[Englishman]

Dean, Pelosi, Reid..........this is the GOP dream ticket if ever there was one.

 

[smurphy]

I give Dean credit for one thing - he was vocally opposed to invading Iraq at a time when that was almost political suicide. He doesn't flip-flop, he seems like a pretty solid guy. ...But yeah, he's not likely to win any new support. Where is Biden and Lieberman?

 

[gardenweasel]

smurphy nailed it....biden,lieberman and bayh.......i honestly very well may have voted for a lieberman/bayh/biden ticket in any form or fashion......

and look out....hillary`s saying all the right things,imo........is this some sort of lean to the middle?....or just smart politics?......

whatever,hil and bill know what it takes to win elections......

she will be very formidable in "08"....not sure if dean will help....but,he knows how to raise money.....he and the new "hil" may be butting heads,though.....

if the dems are smart,they`ll follow the clintons....they`ve proven they know how to win...

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Whats got me stumped is they rave on his abilty to get grass roots support and poitical contributions---how do they consider Moveon.org and Soros grass roots???

Biden is an interesting fellow--while he can be very vocal and contrary at times--but he always comes off to me as very sharp individual not void of common sense--and one that would go against public opinion if he thought it best.

 

[gardenweasel]

there have been times that i absolutely hated biden....and times when he`s impressed the hell out of me.....

he`s grown during his time as a civil servant...

he seems to be an independent thinker and a guy willing to compromise....i don`t always agree with him but he gives you the feeling that he considers issues on the subject matter,not just the party line...you feel like the guy cares about this country...

15-20 years ago,i wouldn`t have said that...

and the "plugs" don`t look all that bad....for plugs...

 

[djv]

Lieberman is half Republican. Has become a ass kisser. You need some folks that talk different and mean it. Our government is becoming to much the same thing. Lies and half truths. Both parties have it down good.

 

[StevieD]

It is good the neocons don't like Dean. Who were the Dems supposed to pick Lieberman? The other side isn't suppose to like the guy you pick. That is the whole point. Kerry tried too hard to become Bush which one of the reasons he lost.

 

[dawgball]

The other side isn't suppose to like the guy you pick. That is the whole point.

And we wonder why our government is not run well.

For what it's worth, Stevie, that is not the point. Both sides should be trying to pick individuals that can see past party lines and do what is right for the people of this country.

I have seen this attitude increasing over the past several years. Every policy that is proposed by this administration is immediately torn apart by the other party (no matter if it is valid or not).

Your next predictable comment..."well that's because this administration's ideas don't work"

If you catch yourself thinking blindly like this, then you are part of the problem not the solution.

 

[Nick Douglas]

Though I echo kosar's statements, I disagree with the notion that the party needs to reach further right. Part of what hurt the democrats in the presidential election was having a candidate trying to reach too far right instead of, "taking care of his base." Republicans do like to claim that this is a middle-right country, but I disagree. I just believe that conservatives have far better leadership on top and they've managed to motivate their staunch supporters to be cohesively active in a far better manner than liberals have.

 

[dawgball]

Maybe I wasn't clear on my point. The candidate that I would like to see elected is not someone who is disliked by the other party. They don't have to be someone who is a possible candidate for the other party, but to be able to unite both sides would be a powerful quality in a leader.

The reason why Kerry wasn't elected is because he was not viewed as trustworthy. He would quickly try to "appear" conservative when he thought it would score votes. Bush, for all of his downfalls, is unwavering in his beliefs.

 

[Nick Douglas]

Amen, dawgball.