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All this hoopla about this guy makes me wonder what the hell people are thinking. LIke this guy is gonna come up with a magic pill to solve Iraq? This is the same guy who helped put this wonderful president in office. This is the same guy who is a senior counselor for the Carlyle group the last time i checked. A group that is heavily invested in arms aka wars. This is the guy who's firm represented the Saudi Royals in a suit regarding Americans who lost loved ones on 9/11. What is he gonna do comeback with theories like what John Murtha and other democrats said two years ago? He is no savior he is part of the problem we have today. Its amazing what people fall for.
 

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Sponge you should check out.......www.breakfornews.com

Listen to the audios and see this guys (Fintan Dunne) opinions on Baker, Bush Sr. Cheney, Blair, 911,psyops, etc etc.............

Some alternative views on issues...........
 

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ill check it out Mav but i don't think i want to find out any more negative stuff about this clan. Three quarters of the stuff i think I forgot because it comes in landslides. geez what was it three months ago we were selling our ports to the Arab?. Not sure many people even remember that. I bet there was some kind of kickback to those thieves if that ever went thru.
Oh god this Dane Cooke is on HBO. I think he is brutal.
 

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hey Mav if you ever get a chance go check out the documentary "loose change". By the way when they call you a conspiracy theorist that's just a word they throw around to stop the debating about a topic. I use to be in construction and the day those buildings came down we were on a job. Every guy watching the TV said the same thing on how those buildings came down like they were rigged with explosives. In this film they show you small pockets of explosions going off way underneath the fire. The Doc also points out those two buildings were the first two buildings in history to collapses because of a fire. Also a third building collapse that day. Wait till you here what was in this building.
 

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hey Mav if you ever get a chance go check out the documentary "loose change". By the way when they call you a conspiracy theorist that's just a word they throw around to stop the debating about a topic. I use to be in construction and the day those buildings came down we were on a job. Every guy watching the TV said the same thing on how those buildings came down like they were rigged with explosives. In this film they show you small pockets of explosions going off way underneath the fire. The Doc also points out those two buildings were the first two buildings in history to collapses because of a fire. Also a third building collapse that day. Wait till you here what was in this building.


This just shows the intelligence of sponge, he cites a college kids documentary made with his Imovie as hard evidence against our govt.

Oh sponge, please tell me how I "just dont get it" or how I am a neocon please I need that from you.

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We have already debated this video in other area of the forum sponge, and I think maverick is the one that posted it, judging by the majority of the stuff maverick posts he likes to hang out at the same sites you do, but he is infinitely more respected and bearable than you.

Oh and when you find the video on this forum you will find mounds of evidence that the video is a sham and lies on many points.
 

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This just shows the intelligence of sponge, he cites a college kids documentary made with his Imovie as hard evidence against our govt.

Oh sponge, please tell me how I "just dont get it" or how I am a neocon please I need that from you.

By the way,
We have already debated this video in other area of the forum sponge, and I think maverick is the one that posted it, judging by the majority of the stuff maverick posts he likes to hang out at the same sites you do, but he is infinitely more respected and bearable than you.

Oh and when you find the video on this forum you will find mounds of evidence that the video is a sham and lies on many points.

did you happen to catch those two winners i posted for you last night? I mean cmon bro how many guys ever come to a sports site and said they are one of the best handicappers walking the planet and actually back it up? If you round up all my post they are some impressive numbers starting to mount. Im right about politics and im right about handicapping. Now on the film i never said i believed the whole thing but being in construction the point i laid out was very particular. By the way are the same people who say this Doc is a fraud say the same thing about Michael Moores movie? They would be Fox news, Rush Limbaugh, Shawn Hannity, and DTB along with the rest of the neocon nitwits?
 
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did you happen to catch those two winners i posted for you last night? I mean cmon bro how many guys ever come to a sports site and said they are one of the best handicappers walking the planet and actually back it up? If you round up all my post they are some impressive numbers starting to mount. Im right about politics and im right about handicapping. Now on the film i never said i believed the whole thing but being in construction the point i laid out was very particular. By the way are the same people who say this Doc is a fraud say the same thing about Michael Moores movie? They would be Fox news, Rush Limbaugh, Shawn Hannity, and DTB along with the rest of the neocon nitwits?

where did you post those winners sponge?
 

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There are actually folks who are experts on demolition. These are not teenage filmmakers, or construction guys, but people who blow up buildings for a living.


The claims made in the film, of the 9/11 buildings collapsing due to controlled demolition, they think are so laughable it's hard to get them to stop giggling and provide a serious response.


Finally some have put their opinions on paper (warning, PDF file) and not surprisingly, they find the teenage filmmakers and constructions guys don't have a clue about controlled demolition and explosions.



as for James Baker, he has been co-chairman of a a bipartisan, Congressionally appointed task force called the "Iraq Study Group" and very well caught up to speed here.


He has always listened sympathetically to Arab concerns, and this is believed will be a welcome counter vs Bush Admin's near perfect alignment with Israeli policy.


Baker's previous diplomatic successes--- reduction of Iraq's external debts, very notably getting all the sides in mid-east to agree to talks in 1991 and his famous ''two plus four'' framework (a strategem that has become a classic study in modern diplomacy) in shaping a deal on German unification----are testaments to his ability at getting things done.
 

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Would we be wrong in thinking Baker brought in just befor electon. To make it look like Bush and his gang are waiting for new ideas on Iraq. Other then the Go No where one of stay the course.
But in the end nothing changes.
 

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where did you post those winners sponge?

Why would you say something like that when you stalk me in every thread? You were right in the thread with me. Remember i said kc Minny and the Pittsburgh game under. then i pulled the Pitt game under off the thread because of something i picked up on Sunday. why is it so hard for you to be honest? also have you notice that a lot of the games i play you don't even need the points?
 

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Why would you say something like that when you stalk me in every thread? You were right in the thread with me. Remember i said kc Minny and the Pittsburgh game under. then i pulled the Pitt game under off the thread because of something i picked up on Sunday. why is it so hard for you to be honest? also have you notice that a lot of the games i play you don't even need the points?

I am geussing your talking about NFL, I knew you didnt post it in NCAA, and I breifly searched the NFL forums for a threead started by you sometime this week, and I couldnt find it. I dont remember being in a thread with you in NFL and I dont remember the winners, but like you say if you ARE the greatest handicapper in the world you think maybe you could start your own thread so it would be easy to find yor picks
 

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I am geussing your talking about NFL, I knew you didnt post it in NCAA, and I breifly searched the NFL forums for a threead started by you sometime this week, and I couldnt find it. I dont remember being in a thread with you in NFL and I dont remember the winners, but like you say if you ARE the greatest handicapper in the world you think maybe you could start your own thread so it would be easy to find yor picks

i don't know why i answer you because you know very well it was in the NCAA forum. You stalk every post of mine. i can't hide from you if i try. I will play along tho its the thread the guy wrote something about hating the big 12. You also know i post in the "post your strongest play of the week thread" 6-1 there hon with incredible upsets each week. I'll start posting when i want to and not when you want me to. In that thread i explain to you why, so why do i have to do it again? either stop drinking and posting or stop bullshitting. I thought we had a truce but you still follow me with that sharp knife.
 

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i don't know why i answer you because you know very well it was in the NCAA forum. You stalk every post of mine. i can't hide from you if i try. I will play along tho its the thread the guy wrote something about hating the big 12. You also know i post in the "post your strongest play of the week thread" 6-1 there hon with incredible upsets each week. I'll start posting when i want to and not when you want me to. In that thread i explain to you why, so why do i have to do it again? either stop drinking and posting or stop bullshitting. I thought we had a truce but you still follow me with that sharp knife.

We do have a truce in NCAA forum,
I was insulting you out of nowhere and I apologized for it

Whatever bullshit you spew out in general forums though I will still attack and or laugh at

I will go back to that thread and check, despite what you think Sponge I dont stalk all of your threads, so I must have missed it. I could care less if you post or not as I will not be following a 15yo blowhard, but anyone who calls himself the greatest handicapper ever should prolly PICK GAMES and post them.

And if you say you will do it when you get your "office" ready well I am not holding my breath as it will prolly be filled with algebra homework over the next few months
 

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We do have a truce in NCAA forum,
I was insulting you out of nowhere and I apologized for it

Whatever bullshit you spew out in general forums though I will still attack and or laugh at

I will go back to that thread and check, despite what you think Sponge I dont stalk all of your threads, so I must have missed it. I could care less if you post or not as I will not be following a 15yo blowhard, but anyone who calls himself the greatest handicapper ever should prolly PICK GAMES and post them.

And if you say you will do it when you get your "office" ready well I am not holding my breath as it will prolly be filled with algebra homework over the next few months

Now why the mean spirited words stock? Like a lot of people around here you are misrepresenting my words. I said i was one of the best handicappers walking the planet not the best. How many guys have you ever heard say that on a post site and fizzle away? Numbers don't lie and they are starting to get close to 90 percent. Round them all up. I took a game tonight and it looks like my boy Bledso is helping me out like he has so many times before. this stuff is as corrupt as politics but you have to figure who the corrupt players are. I have that gift and man you should see it in the NBA. Now i have to see what the halftime line is to see if my bet is a winner.
 

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There are actually folks who are experts on demolition. These are not teenage filmmakers, or construction guys, but people who blow up buildings for a living.


The claims made in the film, of the 9/11 buildings collapsing due to controlled demolition, they think are so laughable it's hard to get them to stop giggling and provide a serious response.


Finally some have put their opinions on paper (warning, PDF file) and not surprisingly, they find the teenage filmmakers and constructions guys don't have a clue about controlled demolition and explosions.



as for James Baker, he has been co-chairman of a a bipartisan, Congressionally appointed task force called the "Iraq Study Group" and very well caught up to speed here.


He has always listened sympathetically to Arab concerns, and this is believed will be a welcome counter vs Bush Admin's near perfect alignment with Israeli policy.


Baker's previous diplomatic successes--- reduction of Iraq's external debts, very notably getting all the sides in mid-east to agree to talks in 1991 and his famous ''two plus four'' framework (a strategem that has become a classic study in modern diplomacy) in shaping a deal on German unification----are testaments to his ability at getting things done.


The only concern James Baker has is his money interests and hidden partnership with the Saudi's.......maybe thats were you make the correlation of him being sympathetic with arabs..........do some research into his legal firms ties with the pipeline business in the middle east......he also represented the Saudis when families of 911 wanted to sue Saudi Arabia........
 

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Now why the mean spirited words stock? Like a lot of people around here you are misrepresenting my words. I said i was one of the best handicappers walking the planet not the best. How many guys have you ever heard say that on a post site and fizzle away? Numbers don't lie and they are starting to get close to 90 percent. Round them all up. I took a game tonight and it looks like my boy Bledso is helping me out like he has so many times before. this stuff is as corrupt as politics but you have to figure who the corrupt players are. I have that gift and man you should see it in the NBA. Now i have to see what the halftime line is to see if my bet is a winner.

Sponge there are guys on here that have posted 15-0, so your advertised 6-1 is nothing too impressive since you dont even post but merely say you win. Saying "I like Tampa" is not a pick - but even when you said that I congratulated you.
I can only assume you DIDNT post your bet that you are winning on tonight, but I can assure you I am 100% on the bets I dont post here;)

The more you talk Sponge, the more I am convinced you cannot be older than 15.
 
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