Jason Whitlock's article

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Yes - shawn.

Those shootings were tragic and white.
Some say Columbine is linked to Marilyn Manson.

But facts do not lie. And they are color-blind

Incidence of crime, violent crime and crime involving handguns is much higher in the black community.

Parse it anyway you want, the #'s come out the same.

There is something going on in there.


You can call me a racist or a bigot or whatever.

I look in the mirror and see a realist. I'm color blind as well
 

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You can call me a racist or a bigot or whatever.

I look in the mirror and see a realist. I'm color blind as well

Well it's just unfortunate there are a lot of people that can't appreciate reality and fact based information without taking offense.
 

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With the tragic events in Dallas, when is Whitlock going to open his pie hole and tell the world that the US should ban automobiles and alcohol.

:facepalm:
 

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With the tragic events in Dallas, when is Whitlock going to open his pie hole and tell the world that the US should ban automobiles and alcohol.

:facepalm:


If he writes that, will you shut the fuck up?


First and foremost, can you seriously not see any difference between someone having a night of fun, and driving their drunk ass off of the road....and someone getting pissed off, and grabbing a gun and planting 9 shots in their child's mother?

These straw man arguments you guys build, are a joke.


You might wish to fight to the death your right to bare arms. Good for you. But, turning a blind eye to the fact that guns are the method of choice for the great majority of murders in this country, makes you look sad and pathetic.
 

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With the tragic events in Dallas, when is Whitlock going to open his pie hole and tell the world that the US should ban automobiles and alcohol.

:facepalm:

Which of these three are designed specifically to kill?

A) The automobile
B) Alcohol
C) Guns

Once you answer this, go ahead and reflect back on your posts.
 

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It's amazing.
350 million people in the US - most of whom never have a problem with guns.

But because of a few, statistically irrelevant aberrant nut-jobs, guns are bad.

There is a reason that the Founding Fathers put the right to BEAR (haha yyz 'bare' - anyone want to run around naked with their guns?) in the Constitution.

Strict gun control laws do not keep guns out of the hands of criminals. They keep them out of the hands of law-abiding citizens. Is it possible that one of these murders would not have been committed with a gun? Yes. The guy then probably would have stabbed her or beat her head in with a bat.
The presence or lack of a gun does not make someone crazy.
 

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Cie:
I have hunted since I was six years old. I was taught very early to respect a weapon. I still hunt and I keep weapons for protection.
My guns are locked in a gun-safe. The ammo is locked in another safe. I have one weapon, near at hand, with a trigger lock and a loaded magazine.
I have a concealed carry permit though I do not carry.

Guns are not the problem here, Cie - at least not to me. There are societal issues that need to be resolved or fixed. There are gun laws in place to try and keep guns out of the hands of unbalanced people. No law is perfect and no one will ever be perfectly safe. If you give up your freedoms for security, you deserve neither and will get neither.
 

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Well, I'm glad you spotted my grammar mistake. The one thing you managed to punch a hole in, in my well thought out argument, versus your shit.

Nice job.

I think you're insane if you think every single death at the hands of a gun, would have automatically occurred if no gun was around. You are the type of person I fear most carrying a gun, not some guy who 'snaps' and shoots his wife.

Hold that gun tight, Rambo.......Sure as shit, "they" are coming for it!
 

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yyz,

You have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you are an idiot.

Worried about me carrying v a Jovan Belcher?


Sure. I am trained and respect the power of a weapon.

Jovan Belcher probably had a gun because he thought it was cool and heard "'bout pistol-whipping his beyotch" in a rap song.

No - I do not think that every gun homicide would automatically revert to a knife homicide if guns were outlawed.
What you do not want to realize or understand is that most gun violence is caused by CRAZY PEOPLE, like Dylan Klebold.
Not law abiding, responsible gun owners like myself.
And stricter gun control laws will not have much of an effect on crazies getting weapons.

...lmao - well-thought out argument? Seriously? Are you taking night classes to be a lawyer or did you stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night?
You give yourself WAY too much credit.
:142smilie
 

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It's amazing.
350 million people in the US - most of whom never have a problem with guns.

But because of a few, statistically irrelevant aberrant nut-jobs, guns are bad.

There is a reason that the Founding Fathers put the right to BEAR (haha yyz 'bare' - anyone want to run around naked with their guns?) in the Constitution.

Strict gun control laws do not keep guns out of the hands of criminals. They keep them out of the hands of law-abiding citizens. Is it possible that one of these murders would not have been committed with a gun? Yes. The guy then probably would have stabbed her or beat her head in with a bat.
The presence or lack of a gun does not make someone crazy.

I also have a small arsenal of guns. excepting for one old pistol which I inherited from my father, the rest are shotguns. My wife and I are avid clay target shooters, and hunt upland birds. Guns are kept in one location and ammunition in another. There are never any loaded guns in the house or car. If fact there are never any loaded guns unless and until we are actually preparing to shoot.


My home protection devices are a sturdy fence and a large dog.

I do not have any guns for self protection. I don't own a black rifle or a semi-auto pistol. Those guns belong with the military and law enforcement.

I think, IMO, that guys who get a stiffie over high cap weapons, and who daydream about shooting someone else, are borderline unstable and have seen too many John Wayne and Rambo movies.

And that second amendment thingy? Try reading the entire 26 words. It's plain English:


A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,
the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.



Those who quote only the "shall not be infringed" part are history and legal revisionists.

Scalia be damned. H's a piss-poor jurist.

The Second clearly says it is for the purpose of arming a militia to protect the security of the state.

It does not mean to arm every nutjob so he can blow away a kid stealing apples, or a wife who burns the beans.
 

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Scalia, a Supreme Court Justice, is a piss poor jurist?

Hmmm - okay, Duff. I guess paralegals should apply for the next opening as well?


"the right of the people to keep and bear arms"

Clear enough.


And, I do not "get a stiffie" over my guns or the thought of shooting anyone, either - as you so eloquently put it.

I, too, have a large dog.


Skeet, clays or both?

I use a 20 ga O/U Browning for skeet.

May favorite, for some reason, is an old 1915 Favorite single shot .22
 

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yyz,

You have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you are an idiot.

Worried about me carrying v a Jovan Belcher?


Sure. I am trained and respect the power of a weapon.

Jovan Belcher probably had a gun because he thought it was cool and heard "'bout pistol-whipping his beyotch" in a rap song.

No - I do not think that every gun homicide would automatically revert to a knife homicide if guns were outlawed.
What you do not want to realize or understand is that most gun violence is caused by CRAZY PEOPLE, like Dylan Klebold.
Not law abiding, responsible gun owners like myself.
And stricter gun control laws will not have much of an effect on crazies getting weapons.

...lmao - well-thought out argument? Seriously? Are you taking night classes to be a lawyer or did you stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night?
You give yourself WAY too much credit.
:142smilie

Every "nut job" was a law abiding citizen until he broke the law.
 

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"the right of the people to keep and bear arms"

Clear enough.


NO
, that's not "clear enough".

Read all 26 words. One sentence. It's not that hard.

Yes, Scalia is a piss-poor jurist. And an asshole too. Just today he compared anti-gay laws to anti-murder laws. He doesn't get the difference.

Mostly skeet. Trap, sporting clays or 5-stand once in a while.

We're fortunate to have a great club here -

http://www.spartanburggunclub.com/

I shoot a pair if Win 101s, one sk/sk, one mod/full. Ann shoots a Rem 1100 with screw-in chokes.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...XDRk2ZtQe3nwU/cC/f=0/ps=50/r=0/rx=550/ry=400/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...XDRk2ZtQe3nwU/cC/f=0/ps=50/r=0/rx=550/ry=400/

All 20 ga. I gave up 12 ga guns a long time ago. We have other guns, but seldom shoot them.

Yes, the photos are a bit old. I don't have any newer. I'm the handsome guy. LOL!!!!
 
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Thanks for the pics and that club looks really nice.

I was taught how to shoot by my grandfather.

When we went to shoot skeet, I always shot first and he always broke one more than me - until I started perfect strings.

Pigeons, crow, squirrel, racoons, deer, groundhogs, quail, pheasant, geese, ducks.

He and I had a lot of fun.
 

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Do the events of today change any opinions? I fucking hate guns. I am not against gun ownership as a right, but outside of a hunting rifle or a shot gun, WTF is the point of the rest? I hate that guns can be easily concealed and I think it is absolutely OUTRAGEOUS that my neighbor is allowed to own automatic/assault weapons.
 
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