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How do you go from getting fired at Texas Tech to being a hot commodity in the NFL?

Seriously, you have to be kidding me with this guy. Coaching desperation is almost reaching QB levels.

Anyone that hires him as a NFL head coach should be fired themselves!!
 

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How do you go from getting fired at Texas Tech to being a hot commodity in the NFL?

Seriously, you have to be kidding me with this guy. Coaching desperation is almost reaching QB levels.

Anyone that hires him as a NFL head coach should be fired themselves!!

There aren't many name branded coaches out there and with the # of openings for Head Coaches and with the rise of Offense in demand, his name pops up, yes! He's not really a hot commodity but someone with clout obviously likes him and is throwing his name around, probably some connected to Cliff who's in the NFL currently, perhaps a Crabtree or Mahomes?

In the NFL most HC don't have the power anyhow of doing anything more than what a college head football coach would have to do anyway, so that goes hand in hand on why he's a name that's out there too.

I shake my head like you do BASON about some of these decisions in hirings/firings.
 

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Don't be surprised if he ends up in New England, even replacing Josh McDaniels. Was a backup quarterback. Here for two seasons, he's extremely tight with Brady, and was involved in playcalling with Josh.
 

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A coordinator job I could certainly understand. That would at least make sense and give him a chance to prove himself in the NFL.
 

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How do you go from getting fired at Texas Tech to being a hot commodity in the NFL?

Seriously, you have to be kidding me with this guy. Coaching desperation is almost reaching QB levels.

Anyone that hires him as a NFL head coach should be fired themselves!!

Agreed. However, with all the retread names I am hearing for HC jobs, there isn't much to choose from.
 

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Looks like the Cardinals win the prize.

They hire a coach last year, give him a rookie QB and fire him for not winning and now they hire a coach that could not win in College at an average program to be a head coach in the NFL.

Maybe I am getting old, but this looks to be the worst hire I have ever seen. Hire him as the QB coach or offensive coordinator, but head coach?

I guess everyone is looking for the next Sean McVay, but he was an OC for two years.

They will either look like geniuses or complete idiots, my money is on the latter. He better hire some experienced coordinators. At least on ex-head coach.
 

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Looks like the Cardinals win the prize.

They hire a coach last year, give him a rookie QB and fire him for not winning and now they hire a coach that could not win in College at an average program to be a head coach in the NFL.

Maybe I am getting old, but this looks to be the worst hire I have ever seen. Hire him as the QB coach or offensive coordinator, but head coach?

I guess everyone is looking for the next Sean McVay, but he was an OC for two years.

They will either look like geniuses or complete idiots, my money is on the latter. He better hire some experienced coordinators. At least on ex-head coach.

Kelly with the Eagles was pretty fn bad...
 

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Kelly with the Eagles was pretty fn bad...

Very few college Head Coaches to NFL Head Coaches excel in the NFL, Holtz never could get it together, Chip was power hungry and narrow minded evidenced by a quick fall and to the booth for ESPN then UCLA bit on his past success at Oregon. Bill O'Brien has a good mentor in Bills' chicks went from Penn St & probation to NFL but he got QBs crushed until Watson showed up and even Watson got hurt. Dick Vermeil did pretty good in the NFL in a few stints and in and out of the broadcast booth, Bill Walsh was a genius and never won a national championship in college but did well in the NFL and has a pretty good lineage trail too. Butch Davis was the last head coach to take the Browns to the playoffs. Barry Switzer didn't last and he and Jimmah Johnson clashed with Jerr but so does everyone else who wants more than Jerr will allow.

My guess is Cliff will be ok in the NFL. I don't buy he developed Mayfield because if Mayfield was that good he wouldn't have let him transfer to Oklahoma although Mahomes came in. Mahomes was a standout baseball prospect as well and not many colleges allow their QB to play college baseball, Mahomes was a rare breed in college and he's a rare breed in the NFL. Cliff will have to get some very good assistants and coordinators on the "D" side for sure and my guess is the team is in more than rebuild mode under Keim and they'll probably be doing some dealing for draft picks to get some linemen on the O-line for Rosen and some top skill guys at WRs, Fitz ain't any younger, Johnson has had a bad injury already and Petey is trade bait on "D". Cardinals usually make some decisions which backfire, and that's one reason they are not consistent and Bruce Arians left.

Bruce Arians is another case of a head coach who didn't do much in college as a head coach (Temple) but he did alright filling in for Pagano (who hasn't gotten a job yet) for the Colts w/a guy named Peyton Manning. Now he's going to try and build Tampon Bay back? HAH! They need some help on the O-Line for sure and a RB to carry the load and if I were them I would trade JW as well, not many teams will take him anyways but get what they can for him. The division his team is in is wide open anyhow.

McDaniels is waiting in the wings to run the Patriots? Ok. I hope he'll like the rebuild and life after Tommy boy.

LaFleur to Green Bay? That's a huge WOW!! Another reason GB is on the downswing in that division and in the NFL power indexes.

The only black coach that received any interviews has been on the down low, Eric Bienemy (Chiefs still playing) so he'll be talked about more after their season is done, along with former coach Jim Caldwell, so why aren't many minority coaches being talked about? Dungy stated he's not interested in coaching anymore in the NFL? I know the loss of his son and his family has weighed heavily on his decision, but man is this the time to get back in or what? That's a whole other discussion!

Good stuff BASON!
 

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Great input Bill!

The minority discussion is coming. My guess it will become front and center any day now. Now that many coaches are being hired and none are minorities it is going to be an issue, especially given that a few were fired. Kingsbury and AZ may end up being at the center of this discussion as a minority coach was fired after only 1 year and they then hire a new head coach who has no real credentials at all to be a head coach in the NFL.

I do not think the NFL wants it to overshadow the playoffs, but you have to think someone of consequence will start making public comments about it very soon.
 
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