Klitschko vs Brock

[Hellephant]

I was hoping for 1,5
but it gave 1,7 :scared
I just put everything I had on Wladimir Klitschko to KO Calvin Brock.
1,7 is amazingly good....... :142lmao:

 

[The Sponge]

I was hoping for 1,5
but it gave 1,7 :scared
I just put everything I had on Wladimir Klitschko to KO Calvin Brock.
1,7 is amazingly good....... :142lmao:

i don't know man Klitz is a tuff guy to bet. He has that paper chin and his stamina is terrible. Good luck

 

[amhlilhaus]

klitschko is hard to figure, for a string of good performances he throws in a clunker. klitschko could win any way, or gas out and fall down to a left hook from brock, who knows.

good luck on your bet.

 

[Hellephant]

Hey, the odds is 1.7, so naturally there is a risk.
And yes, Wladimir has a weak chin, and bad stamina. Or, I would not say bad stamina, it's just that he fights tens, he's nervous, and throws punches with full power. He simply drains himself. But the thing is, Calvin Brock has nothing to worry Wlad. NOTHING.
He has no great chin, no great speed, he's not a southpaw, no great power, he's not a natural counterpuncher, his defence is not great. He is so average, it's funny.
What is Calvin Brock's greatest achievement? I must be decisioning McCline (and he was on the canvas doing it).

We know exactly what Calvin Brock has, there is no surprises here. Jameel McCline IS Brock's limit. And lets face it. Wladimir is a monster compared to McCline. Wlad has one hell of jab, and his right hand is heavy too. Wladimir will jab and grab Brock, until Brock breaks down, and there is nothing Brock can do about it. He has no great chin, no great speed, he's not a southpaw, no great power, he's not a natural counterpuncher, his defence is not great. He is so average, it's funny.

 

[The Sponge]

good luck Hell but to be honest with you i never heard much about Cory Sanders or Lemon Brewster. I just can't risk my money with that chin of his. You only have to hit it once.

 

[Hellephant]

Corrie Sanders was a very good fighter. He was big with fast hands, good pop in both hands, southpaw and counterpuncher. There was several elements that could worry Wladimir. I'd say Sanders would KO Wlad every time the fought.

As for Brewster, he pressured Wlad from the start and walked through a hell of a beating. The amount of punches Lamon absorbed in those first 4 rounds are simply amazing. Brewster's chin is second only to Oliver McCall's.

Calvin Brock is nothing like Corrie Sanders, there is simply no resemblance. And Brock don't have the chin, or the mental toughness, to sustain any big beating like Brewster did.

Like I said before, we know everything about Brock. He will not put pressure on Wlad. He will not run from Wlad. Brock will stand there and get his first real beating in life.
I think we can look at Wladimir's fight with Monte Barrett to get a good picture of Wlad vs Brock. Barrett had nothing to worry Wlad, was down 5 times, and out in the 7'th round. Brock is maybe a little more skilled than Barrett, but not as tough. Brock will start to hit the canvas in the 3'd round, and he will be out quick after that. People must understand, Wlad is a REAL monster when facing a REAL lamb.

 

[amhlilhaus]

I agree that wlad is a monster, when he doesn't have anything to worry about he can stand back and strafe you.

 

[The Sponge]

Corrie Sanders was a very good fighter. He was big with fast hands, good pop in both hands, southpaw and counterpuncher. There was several elements that could worry Wladimir. I'd say Sanders would KO Wlad every time the fought.

As for Brewster, he pressured Wlad from the start and walked through a hell of a beating. The amount of punches Lamon absorbed in those first 4 rounds are simply amazing. Brewster's chin is second only to Oliver McCall's.

Calvin Brock is nothing like Corrie Sanders, there is simply no resemblance. And Brock don't have the chin, or the mental toughness, to sustain any big beating like Brewster did. In your post you stated that you are betting everything you had. To me that is way to risky for this fight.

Like I said before, we know everything about Brock. He will not put pressure on Wlad. He will not run from Wlad. Brock will stand there and get his first real beating in life.
I think we can look at Wladimir's fight with Monte Barrett to get a good picture of Wlad vs Brock. Barrett had nothing to worry Wlad, was down 5 times, and out in the 7'th round. Brock is maybe a little more skilled than Barrett, but not as tough. Brock will start to hit the canvas in the 3'd round, and he will be out quick after that. People must understand, Wlad is a REAL monster when facing a REAL lamb.

hell i agree with you and if i had to bet the fight i would be on your side easily. My problem is that chin of his that is all. I hate to take a fighter who has a good chance of going to sleep with one shot. Its kinda like Tyson. You knew he was gonna win in his hey day but you always had to worry if he would do something stupid to get disquallifyed. Like the time he almost broke Frank Brotha arm. Or bitting off Evanders ear. I havent seen a lot of Brock but i did see one fight and was not impressed at all. He does have a punchers chance tho

 

[The Sponge]

by the way my problem with your post is that you said you are gonna bet everything u have on Klitz. that is why i think its to risky. A wager is different than betting everything you have.

 

[Hellephant]

hell i agree with you and if i had to bet the fight i would be on your side easily. My problem is that chin of his that is all. I hate to take a fighter who has a good chance of going to sleep with one shot. Its kinda like Tyson. You knew he was gonna win in his hey day but you always had to worry if he would do something stupid to get disquallifyed. Like the time he almost broke Frank Brotha arm. Or bitting off Evanders ear. I havent seen a lot of Brock but i did see one fight and was not impressed at all. He does have a punchers chance tho

I do not worry about Wlad's chin, not in this fight. In my opinion only one boxer has stopped Wlad, and that is Sanders. And like I said before. Sanders was one good fighter with great assessments, speed, punching power, southpaw, counterpuncher and size. Brock has nothing of that. :nooo:
Puritty and Brewster did not knock Wlad down and out, they drained him, by constant pressure, and eating an amazing number of jabs and right hands. Brock, like most other fighters, don't have chin or the madness to walk that line. :nono:
Brock is not a devastating puncher. He did KO Lawrence good, but hey, Wlad will never be in that position versus Brock. Wlad is very cautious, he jabs and grabs. I don't see Brock land much, and definitely nothing big. And if he lands so what? Wlad's chin is bad, but not THAT bad. It's not like any fighter can stop him by just landing one shoot. He left the canvas versus Peter, Williamson and Pannel, and continued fighting. Like I said, only Sanders has stopped Wlad by punching.

So now, can we completely rule out Brock stopping Wlad? YES!!!!!!!! :yup

Ok then the question is, can Brock last de distance? :mj03:

Two fighters has done it. Peter and Byrd. Byrd did it back in 2000, at that time Byrd was almost impossible to hit, only boxing legend Ike Ibeabuchi had landed anything significant. Wlad did however give Byrd a real beating, and had him on the canvas a couple of times. :box2:
And then Peter. Off course great chin (he has the same father as Ike Ibeabuchi:mj09. He has taken flush shoots throughout his carer, and never flinched. But it was not only Peter's chin. Wlad was very nervous in this fight, he grabbed and clinched all the time, he never got into any rhythm. But even when Wlad had one of his worst performances ever, fighting scared like hell, he almost took Peter out. Samuel was ready to go in the last round. Lets see the truth. Wlad will not be scared of Brock like he was scared of Peter. Hell no, no one would. And Brock does not have anything like Peter's chin. Very early in this fight, Wlad will get his momentum going, and soon after that, it's good night Calvin Brock. I don't see him survive 6 rounds.:toast:

So now, can we completely rule out Brock lasting 12 rounds? No, because sometimes rounds go by, and for some strange reason the KO never comes. It has happen before, and it can happen again. But is 1,7 (Wlad KO Peter) the greatest value ever in betting history? Hell(ephant) yeah!!!!:Yep:

 

[Hellephant]

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[Hellephant]

by the way my problem with your post is that you said you are gonna bet everything u have on Klitz. that is why i think its to risky. A wager is different than betting everything you have.

I do understand that it's not a good idea to put everything you have on one fight, but, I'm not that disciplined, not yet. I've never been serious when betting before, I just played, now and then, without thinking much. It's just lately I started to approach this with the intention to actually make money. I never lost money before, and maybe now, if I make an effort, I can make some. Well anyway. I had been waiting for Wlad via KO for some time, and then when it turn up, I did not hesitate, BANG, BANG, I pulled the trigger a couple of times, and made my planned bets. Later that evening I returned to see how much Wlad via KO had dropped, but, it had not dropped, it had risen!!! I was shocked and insulted, and just pulled the trigger a couple of more times, BANG BANG, "you mother ****ers", BANG...and there you go, I emptied everything, there was nothing left.:shrug:

If I lose this, I can no longer say that I have made money on betting. Everything I have ever made is now on Wlad via KO. My balance has steadily grown, but all those "successful" bets is now on the line. Will I ruin everything, all that hard work, on just one little mistake?:violin:

Nah, there is no mistake here, Wlad will KO Brock, and I will get my money. And after that, I will not fire bullets, I'll be firing ROCKETS. :bigun:

 

[The Sponge]

Jeez hell i guess their isnt that much interest in this fight. I had to go deep to find your post. Well ill be rooting for you tonight. Hope this fight is a bit better than the Briggs or Mayweather fight.

 

[lvlarc_uk]

I'll love your confidence Helle, I have wlad in a few pending parlays so I'll be rooting for him too

I got Wlad by KO in the 9th!

 

[lvlarc_uk]

Trademark right hand by Wlad knocked Brock out, first few rounds were close, with Wlad mostly jabbing and Brock going to body, then in round 5 Wlad totally dominates with the jab, I think he landed 50 odd jabs in round 5, then he unleashes combo in the 7th and finished Brock off with a huge right. Good stuff

 

[BOXLOCKS]

Nice job...congrats


Good thing you weren't able to bet on Oquendo...lol


gl bl

 

[The Sponge]

ill never understand why Klitz wont let that right go more often. Emanuel was begging him to but he just wont. I think i counted 30 straight jabs before he let it go.
Hell, i have to admit i was getting a little nervous for you. I seen that look of exhaustion creeping into Klitzco's face. it was nice to see a decent fight in the heavyweight divison. It wasn't great but it was okay. Another thing man to watch this stuff in HD is a treat in its own. I thought Brocks ear was gonna pop off when Klitz hit him. He had to break his jaw. That was a devastating punch and Kudo's to Brock that he even got up, even tho they stopped it. Well its nice to see you won so you can stick around a bit more lol.

 

[Hellephant]

Nice job...congrats


Good thing you weren't able to bet on Oquendo...lol


gl bl

Thanks, and yes, thank God that I was not able to put money on Oquendo, what a piss poor performance from him. He "won" the fight, but not big enough to get the decision. Well, now Evander will have another fight, I just hope there are people putting money on him again. I'll bet against him whoever he fights, I saw nothing versus Oquendo that changes that.

 

[Hellephant]

ill never understand why Klitz wont let that right go more often. Emanuel was begging him to but he just wont. I think i counted 30 straight jabs before he let it go.
Hell, i have to admit i was getting a little nervous for you. I seen that look of exhaustion creeping into Klitzco's face. it was nice to see a decent fight in the heavyweight divison. It wasn't great but it was okay. Another thing man to watch this stuff in HD is a treat in its own. I thought Brocks ear was gonna pop off when Klitz hit him. He had to break his jaw. That was a devastating punch and Kudo's to Brock that he even got up, even tho they stopped it. Well its nice to see you won so you can stick around a bit more lol.

Thanks, I was nervous (naturally). Wlad did not dominate like I thought he would. And yes, his face looked "cooked", but It's difficult to say if he was drained? Thank God Calvin Brock performed as expected.:toast: