Lakers -700 for the series. Would you take it??

[chuckdman]

What do you say? Lakers should be able to score more than Detroit in all games! Stop Rick Hamilton and its over IMO. Who else can score on Detroit?

Im thinking of putting a mid bet on the Lakers. Am I Nuts?!

 

[Scott4USC]

No your not nuts. But your nuts if you bet Lakers to win series
-700. Pinnacle sportsbook has Lakers to win series right now at
-610. I would do this bet instead. Bet Lakers to win the series in 6 games or less. Pinnacle has the line at -240, I got it at -220. I have bet thousands on these 2 bets already. I won with Lakers beating Minny and I won with Detroit beating Indie. You can make lot of money betting on who wins the series or during the series (as I did with detroit to win series).

Game 6 is in LA so that is good news if you take em to win in 6 games or less. I personally think Lakers win it in 5 games.

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

I'd shop around for a better line. They are out there. I got -550 earlier, and know I could have gotten better when I bet it.

There is no such thing as a lock, no sure thing, but to put it in other terms, the pistons have ZERO chance of winning....none...NADA...Zilch. Cannot happen. Statistical probability is zero. -700 is great odds for a bet that cannot lose.

Unlike the NFL, and MLB (recently), and NHL for sure, there is no parity in the NBA. There is no cinderella story. The team that has been favored to win the NBA finals series has won every year since 1990 and this year will be no different. It could go back much further than that, but I don't have the statistical data for it. Spurs were heavy favorites last year, Lakers were heavy favorites for their 3 years, Spurs favored in strike year, Bulls favored for all 6 of theirs except maybe the LA one (but those teams were evenly matched, and if they were a dog it wasn't big)

Basically just pointing out to you that the best team in the NBA wins. There are no Anaheim Angels, Calgary or Tampa(NHL), Baltimore Ravens, etc. All these teams were good and deserve whatever they got, but the NBA has NO DARLINGS.

Read whatever you want about matchups, let the NBA blast your brains with this series will be closer than it looks, Detroit defense will slow em down.....Bunch of crap.....LA WINS its that simple. Bet whatever you want on it. Max out your cards, mortgage the house, pimp the wife, get whatever you can and lay it down.

Post series prediction: Lakers win in 5. Kobe gets acquitted and signs on longer in LA. Malone and Payton go home and wear their rings to the bars and hire speech writers to write their "hall speeches" Phil Jackson gets and offer he can't refuse and dumps Buss' daughter and signs a multi-year deal to coach the Knickerbockers. Shaq follows and releases his fourth CD entiled Biggie in New York (tribute album to slain rapper Biggy). He joins up with Ja-Rule and puts 50 cent in his place and tells him he joined the east coast allegiance. Balance of power slowly starts to move a little bit back to the East.

Good luck with your lakers series, its as good a bet you'll find even though the price is steep, its worth it.

 

[ezpickin]

BleedDodgerBlue,

You should change your name to BleedLakerPurple...your clear bias for the glitter boys has put your wife, mortgage, credit cards and everything else at risk...you are NUTS if you think there is no way Detroit wins this series...did you forget who the hottest team in the nba was coming down the stretch? These boys from Motown will bring their lunch pails to every game and log 48 minutes of end to end effort...they will be relentless on D, frustrate the crap out of LA, and will absolutely make this an interesting series...I guess you probably gave the same speach last year when the Yanks played the Marlins in the World Series?

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

I don't bleed laker purple. I don't like the Lakers. I don't even like the NBA all that much, but I beat the book at it. I like the Clippers. I'm from LA but that don't mean I like the lakers. I'm a die-hard clipper fan and its painful. I never bet a clipper game and I never bet a dodger game. Nothing would have made me happier than the lakers to lose this series UNTIL i placed a bet on it.
A lot of you people need to realize (not you ezpickin i don't think) that this is a sportswagering forum. I don't care about any team unless i have money on them. Too many people bet with their hearts and it costs them. How about lowroller who bet every dolphins game for the last decade. And then every heat game. Its okay to be a homer and root for your team, but wagering money is entirely different.

Detroit is NOT a bad team. They just are NOT in the same class as LA. They have no answer for shaq, and kobe will not be stopped or even slowed by rip.

As for betting the Yankees last year, I didnt even bet the series, not sure where that came from. I don't only bet high chalk, I only bet things that I think will win. Unfortunately chalk is involved. I think and KNOW the Lakers win this series. So don't call me a homer, cause I'm far from it.

If you think there is value in detroit, by all means bet them. Make sure to save your tickets so you can recycle them. They have no value. LA wins, plain and simple.

Good luck

 

[SimonSezs]

Honestly too high of chalk to lay. Is it a winner sure, but in between the series you can easily make the same money either betting on the side or over/under without the risk. If the Game goes 7 you'll be cursing the day you placed it. Lakers should take it in 5 or 6 at worse.

 

[OnaJ]

There is no such thing as a lock, no sure thing, but to put it in other terms, the pistons have ZERO chance of winning....none...NADA...Zilch. Cannot happen. Statistical probability is zero. -700 is great odds for a bet that cannot lose.

The media has really brain washed a lot of people. Look, the East has sucked for the last 5 years or so. But this Detroit team is far better than any team to come out of the East in that stretch.
If you can tell me how there is any value at all in laying 7 to 1 in a professional sport, I would love to hear it.
The Yankees have had the best players in baseball for the last decade and they have been beat by inferior teams at times. Anaheim, Florida, etc.

Who in their right mind would lay 7 to 1 with a team that was 0.4 seconds away from being eliminated from the play offs, and that was to a team VERY similar to DET.

The Lakers SHOULD win. But how can someone say DET has no chance? That could be the dumbest thing I've seen around the board. C'mon. This Lakers team has no bench and has a terrible habit of turning it on and off. DET is probably the best coached team in the NBA and could very well hold the match up edge in 3 of 5 positions and the bench as well.
The equalizer of course is that the Lakers 2 edges are dominant players.

The Lakers have not had an easy time with San Antonio the last few years.
This is very similar to a San Antonio and L.A final.
Would you lay 7 to 1 that the Lakers beat San Antonio in 7 games? Probably not. You would say the line should be closer 3 to 1 or 4 to 1 maybe.

The line is not there because the Lakers are completely head and shoulders above the Pistons.
It is there because the public is convinced by the media that the West is completely dominant and the East is awful. Top to bottom that is true, but at the top it is much closer.

If there was no such thing as Western Conference and Eastern Conference and it was all one big league and you just looked at the teams with out any bias, it is hard to believe that anyone who knows basketball would say the Lakers are so far ahead of DET that it won't be a series.

This is not a dominant Lakers team.

The media just wants you to believe that with 4 Hall of Famers, the Lakers can't possibly lose.

 

[jr11]

IMO, and with the series price that high I can't see Detroit having any chance. I would be more scared if it were something like -300 to 400. Maybe that is the contrarian in me. Can't see Vegas giving a return on that investment with Detroit and making the line to high to limit what people put on LA. What I would do if for some reason I ever played LA for the series would be to back bet Detroit in some games...might hit in the middle. It is not worth it though. Good luck.

jr11

 

[Bombs]

I agree with the above sentiments that if there was no East or West and one big NBA, the Pistons would be getting much better respect. They are the second best team in the NBA, and this is going to be a good series.

They match up particularly well with the Lakers. Shaq is, in his current state, only "dominant" when he gets dunks and layups, which happens when soft tools are guarding him. Unlike 4 years ago, his jump hooks and turnarounds are a total joke. Wallace and Co. will NOT let him set up on the block down low, I guarantee it. If Shaq wants to go off, he better hit those hooks, they will give it to him, but muscling will be a problem. He will not make the hooks. He will also be forced to defend Okur on the perimeter and that is going to be a nightmare for the Lakers.

Prince will give Kobe fits, and Hamilton will run Kobe ragged. If they put George on Hamilton, he will get torched, as he does not have the foot speed. There is no comparison between these two teams in terms of depth. The Pistons have a large edge there, I have no clue what that moron AP writer was saying in the other article, he didn't even mention Okur, the Pistons most valuable bench commodity in this series.

With that being said, the thing that really hurts the Pistons here is the format 2-3-2 is EXTREMELY hard on the road team. Basically you are forced to win the series 1 of 2 ways. Split the first 2, 2 out of 3, and split the last 2. It is very hard to sweep the middle three or either of the ends as a the road team, especially against an opponent that is as good or better than you. Home court means more here than it did in baseball with the Yankees/Marlins.

The Pistons have a shot in this series, and I think they will at least get it to 6 games. If you go around laying 700 or 600 or whatever, then you will lose in the long run. If you win, collect it, but it is not a winning strategy, and the Lakers are far from a lock.

 

[Scott4USC]

The teams that give the Lakers trouble have one of the following:

a. A solid PG-PF combination that can run pick and roll. Det has the PF if he's healthy (which apparently he isn't) but not the type of PG that gives the Lakers trouble.

b. A decent defensive presence at center. Det has a 6-8 guys but Shaq eats up guys that aren't at least 7 foot.

c. A decent offensive presence at center to keep Shaq from roaming on D. Det's center will be lucky to get 6 ppg. Ben Wallace is a HORRIBLE offensive player. The dude misses layups and has trouble dunking. Forget about an outside game.

d. A smothering defender to make Kobe work for his points. With all due respect to the job Tayshaun Prince did on 43 year old Reggie Miller, he ain't ready for this job.

People need to stop trying to equate the Eastern conference to the West. Beating SA is not equivalent to NJ, or that beating Indiana is not equivalent to beating the T'Wolves.

Instead try to tell me how Det gets to 90 ppg because that's what its going to take for them to win a few games.

Lakers play slow ball better than anyone in the league. SA found that out the hard way. In order to beat the Lakers you need to run them off the court. Good luck trying Detroit!!!

Detroit simply does not match up well with the Lakers. If Detroit does somehow figure a way not to go on 4 min. scoring droughts and stay close late in the 4th quarter they can pretty much forget about winning because Lakers have Kobe. The ultimate clutch shooter. This series simply is too tough for Detroit. All starters for Detroit must play to their potential for Detroit to just have a chance at this series.

This thing will prob. go 6 for the same reason the other two LA series went 6, the Lakers have the attention span of a gnat.

If Lakers come to play which I think they will (since it is the finals), then I will stick to my prediction and Lakers win it in 5. Detroit wins game 3.

 

[MrChristo]

c. A decent offensive presence at center to keep Shaq from roaming on D. Det's center will be lucky to get 6 ppg. Ben Wallace is a HORRIBLE offensive player. The dude misses layups and has trouble dunking. Forget about an outside game.

How long has it been since you watched a Pistons game?

 

[mw]

I jumped on Lakers +160 to win in 4 or 5 games. Hedged it a little with Lakers +210 to win in 6. Unlikely to go 6, and no way it goes 7 -- unless the league instructs certain people to make that happen.

 

[Scott4USC]

MrChristo

I watched every Piston/Pacer game since I had $2000 to win $1000 on Detroit winning the series. So I watched it closely. Wallace averaged "only" 7.8 points per game in the Indiana series. NOT VERY GOOD and I think he will have tougher time scoring against Shaq vs Jermaine. Oh yeah, Ben also had trouble scoring over an INJURED Jermaine Oneal. It was quite pathetic, especially game 6. I think he missed at least 3 dunk opportunities and 3 layups against an injured Oneal. Very very poor for a big man in the NBA. Not to mention his outside shooting was horrific. My problem with him is he misses easy shots or wide open shots on a consistent basis. This will be the 2nd straight series where Shaq will not have to worry about his man on defense.

 

[KsYaS]

The Detroit Vs Indiana series wasnt a defensive series!! was a fvcking poor shooting series, they play to who miss more shoots, was fvcking nasty, thank good it's over, they do not produce basketball at all and of course lakers will win the series, maybe they go to 7, maybe sweep but will be a lakers win!!

By the way, talking about that stupid bet of 7-1, I will never bet this crap, is just fvcking stupid, nobody deserves lay that money is ridiculous!!! maybe is a sure bet, but worthless!

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

Of course you will go broke if you always lay -700 blindly. This bet isn't blind. Its a calculated risk and I'm 100% confident that the lakers will win this series every time its played. At least more times than the 5.5 that I got the bet at. Just because I layed -550 on a series has nothing to do with money management, and you people have to pick and choose spots. This is a spot I chose, and have ZERO doubts about it.

And also, for what its worth, all you people who bet Smarty Jones today are betting essentially the same odds I am. And you are backing a horse. And you are backing a horse in one race. And you are backing a horse that is running the longest distance of his career. And you are backing a horse running the longest distance of his career on a one-chance bet. At least I'm backing the best team in the NBA over the last 5 years with four future hall of famers, and I'm getting them with home court advantage in a best of seven scenario.

So all you people on Smarty Jones today (not by any means saying its a bad bet) don't talk to me about laying -550. Even if you bet a $2 ticket, it doesn't matter. You are still laying the juice.

 

[KsYaS]

yes, but you can win the same money betting on the lakers at the Palace, why?? because they are going to be a very small fav(1 or 2, if they are a fav, if is not a pk choice), because the lakers should win at Det to win the series, then you just have to risk 1100 in the first game at the palace, if you lose, you bet 2300 in the second game and you will win the same, also if you lose your bet than you can say you are lucky, because if lakers lose the first two games at Detroit I hardly doubt the could come back, but what the heck!!

The initial thread was insane like the bet, all people is trying to find a way to bet the east, like all the last 4 years, and a lot of people will lose, just because is the west era, even with R. Wallace at Detroit they arent still a big west coast class team, they are improving, hell yeah, they are going to win hell NO! they will fight like a cat down but in todays days is a West Coast dominated league and that's fvcking it!!




By the way, why dont you BleedDodgerBlue bet against any person here who beleives in the pistons???? in this case, no body gives the money to Vegas! just a thought!



Javier

 

[spang]

Aw shit, Lakers drop another

 

[ezpickin]

Spang,

Doncha hate it when that happens? NOT!

 

[maverick2112]

The initial thread was insane like the bet, all people is trying to find a way to bet the east, like all the last 4 years, and a lot of people will lose, just because is the west era, even with R. Wallace at Detroit they arent still a big west coast class team, they are improving, hell yeah, they are going to win hell NO! they will fight like a cat down but in todays days is a West Coast dominated league and that's fvcking it!!

So much for your"big west coast class team"

You need to get that printed on a t-shirt was wear it around town.

The Detroit Vs Indiana series wasnt a defensive series!! was a fvcking poor shooting series, they play to who miss more shoots, was fvcking nasty, thank good it's over, they do not produce basketball at all and of course lakers will win the series, maybe they go to 7, maybe sweep but will be a lakers win!!

Boy you have to be embarassed with this kind of posting before the series started..........I bet you feel really stupid:nono:

 

[chuckdman]

Shooot

Shooot

I pretty damn happy I listened to all the reasons here and didnt take the Lakers that the crazy -700 ML for the series. As usual, taking high MLs are just not worth it for any reason.

Thanks guys!..

I do see the Lakers TRYING HARD to win game 5. I will take the points +3 for the Laker Show in Game 5. No way they come back from 3-1 series though.. Detriot is just rocking!! and Scoring to my surprise over 80 points every game (except one, which was 79)..

GL BOYS..