Anybody ssen this yet. What an idiot.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news?slug=ap-eustachy-collegeparty&prov=ap&type=lgns
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news?slug=ap-eustachy-collegeparty&prov=ap&type=lgns
Larry Eustachy, What the hell is he on?
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Big friggin' deal. Are the puritans still running this country?
The guy drank too much and (mildly) made a fool out of himself. That's it. End of story.
People have to stop being surprised when athletes and coaches actually act like everybody else in society.
The guy drank too much and (mildly) made a fool out of himself. That's it. End of story.
People have to stop being surprised when athletes and coaches actually act like everybody else in society.
Hey at least he didnt pull a Kevin Mackey and got caught smoking crack in a crack house with a ho.
hmmm...where should we begin....
hmmm...where should we begin....
Eustachy's married and is perceived as carousing with young women.
The coach supposedly made derogatory statements about his own team to opposing schools' students.
He drank too much, at least he admits that.
He's an authority figure, and while not coaching at a high profile basketball school, is still regarded as one the best college bb coaches in the country.
Eustachy is THE highest paid state employee in all of Iowa.
But away from the court, he should be held to a higher standard. Eustachy's not a young player who's still learning about life. He's a very mature individual who shouldn't be acting immature in this way. The guy is paid with taxpayer dollars, and should be severely reprimanded by the school, at the very least. Just my two cents.
hmmm...where should we begin....
Eustachy's married and is perceived as carousing with young women.
The coach supposedly made derogatory statements about his own team to opposing schools' students.
He drank too much, at least he admits that.
He's an authority figure, and while not coaching at a high profile basketball school, is still regarded as one the best college bb coaches in the country.
Eustachy is THE highest paid state employee in all of Iowa.
But away from the court, he should be held to a higher standard. Eustachy's not a young player who's still learning about life. He's a very mature individual who shouldn't be acting immature in this way. The guy is paid with taxpayer dollars, and should be severely reprimanded by the school, at the very least. Just my two cents.
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I agree gecko you gotta use some common sense when your in that position. This story is not dead yet either. There is alot more too it. Going out and partying with your players, wearing a red robe at the parties and bragging about how much cabbage you make are not the kind of things a head coach should be doing with his team.
Sorry shrimp he just didn't go out and have a beer with some of the players. This is not end of story. More will come out soon.
Sorry shrimp he just didn't go out and have a beer with some of the players. This is not end of story. More will come out soon.
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Kansas students recall Eusatchy's actions at party
They question his comments about women, Cyclones
By P. Kim Bui and Jeff Raasch
Daily Staff Writers
April 29, 2003
Students who attended a party with ISU basketball head coach Larry Eustachy more than a year ago said they believe his actions were inappropriate for a public figure.
"If it had been a regular college guy, I wouldn't have thought about it, but this man is in the public eye," said Nicole Wenger, sophomore in hotel and restaurant management at Kansas State who attended a party with Eustachy in Manhattan.
Nicole said she was attending an after-hours party at her brother's fraternity, Kappa Sigma, when Eustachy showed up with several other men. She said she assumed they were from Iowa State, because they were wearing ISU apparel.
It was about 2 or 2:30 a.m., said Marla Koehne, sophomore in family studies and human services at Kansas State.
Koehne said there were about 30 to 40 people watching Eustachy at the time.
Nicole said he started making comments toward her about her appearance.
"[He said things like] 'You're pretty good-looking'," she said. "It wasn't that bad until we got in front of a whole bunch of people."
She said Eustachy also said he thought she should be going to Kansas because, "the girls are much hotter there."
Eustachy had put his arm around Nicole Wenger, she said. It was at this point that Nicole's brother, Kurtis Wenger, intervened.
"He said, 'You're married. What are you doing hitting on freshman girls in college?'" Nicole said.
She said she could smell alcohol on Eustachy's breath.
"He was pretty drunk," she said.
Kurtis said he pulled his sister away from Eustachy after he believed Eustachy had been getting too close to her.
Several people in attendance started talking to Eustachy about ISU's loss to Kansas State that night, Kurtis said.
Nicole said Eustachy went through players individually and criticized their performances.
Kurtis said he made several inappropriate comments about his team.
"He said 'I don't care whether or not my team is good or bad'," Kurtis said. "I make $1 million a year, which is $3,000 a day."
Eustachy was at the party for about an hour and a half or two hours, Kurtis said.
In a statement, Iowa State Athletics Director Bruce Van De Velde said he is disappointed with Eustachy's actions.
"Obviously we are disappointed with Coach Eustachy's behavior," he said. "We have made sure he understands his accountability and obligations as Iowa State's basketball coach, now and in the future."
Eustachy released a statement late Monday:
"I want the people of Iowa, and the fans of our program throughout the nation, to know how sorry I am to have disappointed them with some poor decisions I have made. But words are cheap at a time like this, and I hope to be measured by my future conduct.
"I am certainly aware of the role drinking has played in my behavior. I am addressing this matter.
"With the support of my family and friends, I will do everything in my power to make sure my actions reflect highly upon this university and this state."
Current ISU men's basketball players were not available for comment Monday, according to ISU officials.
Kurtis said some members of his fraternity thought it was cool Eustachy was drinking at their fraternity.
"I think the guys thought it was pretty cool, [but] I took it a different way," Kurtis said.
Kurtis said he did not think Eustachy's actions were appropriate.
"[His actions] were cool to an extent, but if you step back and say he's the head coach, you expect more [from him]," Kurtis said.
Koehne said she thought his comments about the ISU men's basketball team were particularly inexcusable.
"It's not appropriate to come into the school he just lost to and make it sound like his players were all worthless," she said.
Gabby Hunter, sophomore in dance at Kansas State who grew up in Ames and attended the party, said she has always been a big Iowa State fan, and is disappointed with Eustachy's actions.
"It really breaks my heart that anybody could represent Iowa State that badly," she said.
Damion Staple, a recruit from Southeastern Illinois Community College, signed with Iowa State last week. He said this news did not change his intentions.
"I don't regret [my decision to sign with Iowa State]," Staple said when informed of Eustachy's actions.
Students React
The talk on campus Monday was dominated by Larry Eustachy who, according to an article published in The Des Moines Register, attended a party with Missouri students after Iowa State lost to the Tigers in January.
The article included sources who said Eustachy openly criticized his team at the party and photographs that show a beer-holding Eustachy embracing and kissing college-aged women on the cheek. He reportedly attended the party with Missouri guard Josh Kroenke.
Student reaction to Eustachy's actions varied, but most agreed he did not represent Iowa State well. All agreed that some disciplinary action should be taken, but it varied from a verbal warning to a fine.
"I don't think he should get fired," said Hailee Rustad, freshman in Liberal Arts and Sciences. "I think that he should get fined ...to teach him a lesson."
Luke Gingerich, junior in civil engineering, was hesitant to judge Eustachy's actions, but did say it was embarrassing to the state.
"If he's going to be caught doing things like this, he needs to start winning more games," Gingerich said.
"But I would rather see him in the paper doing this than some of our athletes."
Gingerich said he thinks Eustachy, who makes upward of $1 million annually and is the state's highest-paid public employee, should have his salary docked, but no further action should be taken.
Luke Marriott, who said he's been an ISU basketball fan since he's been able to walk, said the most embarrassing part of the matter is Eustachy's actions came after a loss. The Cyclones dropped to 0-4 in the Big 12 Conference and 10-5 overall with the loss.
"His attention after a loss should not be on blowing it up with some women and Josh Kroenke," said Marriott, sophomore in political science. "He needs to be back looking over the X's and O's."
Jamie Luedtke, a graduate student in community and regional planning, was torn with her opinion. She said Eustachy should be held to a higher standard than most because he is a major-college basketball coach. But also Eustachy, who is known for his on-court temper tantrums, has a reputation that most fans enjoy.
"He's got an image to uphold," Luedtke said. "I've never seen students cheer for a coach like that before. When he starts getting Larry-crazy, they all love it."
Courtney Rockow, sophomore in agricultural business, said Eustachy should be a worthy representative of Iowa State and a role model to his players. She said she doesn't think he should be fired for his actions, though.
"I don't think he should be fired or suspended. He is a grown man over 21 years-old and can partake in those doings," Rockow said. But, "this needs to be a lesson and he needs to learn from it."
Ronnie Chandler, senior in apparel merchandising, design and production, also took issue with Eustachy's actions, but didn't think the actions warranted a severe reprimand.
"I don't think he should be partying with the other team, especially after they lost," Chandler said. "It's a bad judgment, but I don't really think it's that serious."
This season has been a tumultuous one for the ISU men's basketball program. Former assistant coach Randy Brown resigned following child pornography charges and four players who played on last year's squad have had brushes with the law within the last year.
"You wonder what's going on with this program," Marriott said. "This program used to be one of the top ones."
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Kansas students recall Eusatchy's actions at party
They question his comments about women, Cyclones
By P. Kim Bui and Jeff Raasch
Daily Staff Writers
April 29, 2003
Students who attended a party with ISU basketball head coach Larry Eustachy more than a year ago said they believe his actions were inappropriate for a public figure.
"If it had been a regular college guy, I wouldn't have thought about it, but this man is in the public eye," said Nicole Wenger, sophomore in hotel and restaurant management at Kansas State who attended a party with Eustachy in Manhattan.
Nicole said she was attending an after-hours party at her brother's fraternity, Kappa Sigma, when Eustachy showed up with several other men. She said she assumed they were from Iowa State, because they were wearing ISU apparel.
It was about 2 or 2:30 a.m., said Marla Koehne, sophomore in family studies and human services at Kansas State.
Koehne said there were about 30 to 40 people watching Eustachy at the time.
Nicole said he started making comments toward her about her appearance.
"[He said things like] 'You're pretty good-looking'," she said. "It wasn't that bad until we got in front of a whole bunch of people."
She said Eustachy also said he thought she should be going to Kansas because, "the girls are much hotter there."
Eustachy had put his arm around Nicole Wenger, she said. It was at this point that Nicole's brother, Kurtis Wenger, intervened.
"He said, 'You're married. What are you doing hitting on freshman girls in college?'" Nicole said.
She said she could smell alcohol on Eustachy's breath.
"He was pretty drunk," she said.
Kurtis said he pulled his sister away from Eustachy after he believed Eustachy had been getting too close to her.
Several people in attendance started talking to Eustachy about ISU's loss to Kansas State that night, Kurtis said.
Nicole said Eustachy went through players individually and criticized their performances.
Kurtis said he made several inappropriate comments about his team.
"He said 'I don't care whether or not my team is good or bad'," Kurtis said. "I make $1 million a year, which is $3,000 a day."
Eustachy was at the party for about an hour and a half or two hours, Kurtis said.
In a statement, Iowa State Athletics Director Bruce Van De Velde said he is disappointed with Eustachy's actions.
"Obviously we are disappointed with Coach Eustachy's behavior," he said. "We have made sure he understands his accountability and obligations as Iowa State's basketball coach, now and in the future."
Eustachy released a statement late Monday:
"I want the people of Iowa, and the fans of our program throughout the nation, to know how sorry I am to have disappointed them with some poor decisions I have made. But words are cheap at a time like this, and I hope to be measured by my future conduct.
"I am certainly aware of the role drinking has played in my behavior. I am addressing this matter.
"With the support of my family and friends, I will do everything in my power to make sure my actions reflect highly upon this university and this state."
Current ISU men's basketball players were not available for comment Monday, according to ISU officials.
Kurtis said some members of his fraternity thought it was cool Eustachy was drinking at their fraternity.
"I think the guys thought it was pretty cool, [but] I took it a different way," Kurtis said.
Kurtis said he did not think Eustachy's actions were appropriate.
"[His actions] were cool to an extent, but if you step back and say he's the head coach, you expect more [from him]," Kurtis said.
Koehne said she thought his comments about the ISU men's basketball team were particularly inexcusable.
"It's not appropriate to come into the school he just lost to and make it sound like his players were all worthless," she said.
Gabby Hunter, sophomore in dance at Kansas State who grew up in Ames and attended the party, said she has always been a big Iowa State fan, and is disappointed with Eustachy's actions.
"It really breaks my heart that anybody could represent Iowa State that badly," she said.
Damion Staple, a recruit from Southeastern Illinois Community College, signed with Iowa State last week. He said this news did not change his intentions.
"I don't regret [my decision to sign with Iowa State]," Staple said when informed of Eustachy's actions.
Students React
The talk on campus Monday was dominated by Larry Eustachy who, according to an article published in The Des Moines Register, attended a party with Missouri students after Iowa State lost to the Tigers in January.
The article included sources who said Eustachy openly criticized his team at the party and photographs that show a beer-holding Eustachy embracing and kissing college-aged women on the cheek. He reportedly attended the party with Missouri guard Josh Kroenke.
Student reaction to Eustachy's actions varied, but most agreed he did not represent Iowa State well. All agreed that some disciplinary action should be taken, but it varied from a verbal warning to a fine.
"I don't think he should get fired," said Hailee Rustad, freshman in Liberal Arts and Sciences. "I think that he should get fined ...to teach him a lesson."
Luke Gingerich, junior in civil engineering, was hesitant to judge Eustachy's actions, but did say it was embarrassing to the state.
"If he's going to be caught doing things like this, he needs to start winning more games," Gingerich said.
"But I would rather see him in the paper doing this than some of our athletes."
Gingerich said he thinks Eustachy, who makes upward of $1 million annually and is the state's highest-paid public employee, should have his salary docked, but no further action should be taken.
Luke Marriott, who said he's been an ISU basketball fan since he's been able to walk, said the most embarrassing part of the matter is Eustachy's actions came after a loss. The Cyclones dropped to 0-4 in the Big 12 Conference and 10-5 overall with the loss.
"His attention after a loss should not be on blowing it up with some women and Josh Kroenke," said Marriott, sophomore in political science. "He needs to be back looking over the X's and O's."
Jamie Luedtke, a graduate student in community and regional planning, was torn with her opinion. She said Eustachy should be held to a higher standard than most because he is a major-college basketball coach. But also Eustachy, who is known for his on-court temper tantrums, has a reputation that most fans enjoy.
"He's got an image to uphold," Luedtke said. "I've never seen students cheer for a coach like that before. When he starts getting Larry-crazy, they all love it."
Courtney Rockow, sophomore in agricultural business, said Eustachy should be a worthy representative of Iowa State and a role model to his players. She said she doesn't think he should be fired for his actions, though.
"I don't think he should be fired or suspended. He is a grown man over 21 years-old and can partake in those doings," Rockow said. But, "this needs to be a lesson and he needs to learn from it."
Ronnie Chandler, senior in apparel merchandising, design and production, also took issue with Eustachy's actions, but didn't think the actions warranted a severe reprimand.
"I don't think he should be partying with the other team, especially after they lost," Chandler said. "It's a bad judgment, but I don't really think it's that serious."
This season has been a tumultuous one for the ISU men's basketball program. Former assistant coach Randy Brown resigned following child pornography charges and four players who played on last year's squad have had brushes with the law within the last year.
"You wonder what's going on with this program," Marriott said. "This program used to be one of the top ones."
http://desmoinesregister.com/sports/basketball/men/cyclones/eustachyphotos.html
Link to photos. Making a million a year you would think he could drink something better than natural light beer. What a stud bet his wife is very happy. What an idiot.
Link to photos. Making a million a year you would think he could drink something better than natural light beer. What a stud bet his wife is very happy. What an idiot.
Shrimp- As hilarious as I think the situation is, this really isn't something that can be overlooked. College coaches should not be out drinking Natty Light (god gawd) at campus parties and hitting on drunken co-eds. Eustachy surely can find some more discreet methods of entertainment. Most 45 year old married men aren't out drinking with 19 year olds and acting out their 'Old School' fantasies. This isn't a case of him going to a regular party with his peers or even going to strip-club..this is stretching the boundaries and isn't something a college professor or coach at a major university should be doing.
All of what you guys says is true, but I still say, "who cares?"
I mean really, do any of you really give a crap this guy went a little too far after having too much to drink?
People say "it reflects badly on the university". Bullshit. It reflects badly on the man. No reasonable person really thinks that Iowa State University is a worse place now because their hoops coach went out and made an ass of himself, and you can 't spend your time catering to the whims of unreasonable people.
Hoops -- the thing is, all of this "this is something he shouldn't be doing" is coming at it from a point of view that people need to act a certain way. I guess maybe we're getting into a sociological argument here or something but I just don't buy into those things.
If the president of my university or coach of my team is a drunk ass, but makes decisions/deals/calls that benefit university/team then again, what's the big deal?
If he loses respect of players and/or students then they're judging him professionally based on his personal decisions. THAT'S what bugs me. None of us working schmucks are held to those standards and it really bugs me that athletes and coaches are.
I mean really, do any of you really give a crap this guy went a little too far after having too much to drink?
People say "it reflects badly on the university". Bullshit. It reflects badly on the man. No reasonable person really thinks that Iowa State University is a worse place now because their hoops coach went out and made an ass of himself, and you can 't spend your time catering to the whims of unreasonable people.
Hoops -- the thing is, all of this "this is something he shouldn't be doing" is coming at it from a point of view that people need to act a certain way. I guess maybe we're getting into a sociological argument here or something but I just don't buy into those things.
If the president of my university or coach of my team is a drunk ass, but makes decisions/deals/calls that benefit university/team then again, what's the big deal?
If he loses respect of players and/or students then they're judging him professionally based on his personal decisions. THAT'S what bugs me. None of us working schmucks are held to those standards and it really bugs me that athletes and coaches are.
Shrimp- As a parent, would you want a 45 year old drunk hanging all over your daughter at some frat party or whatever it is? Who cares? Well, I don't think this is a major issue but the guy shouldn't be getting a free pass because he is doing things most of us (supposedly, as I don't see many middle aged men accompanying 20 year olds to campus parties) either do or want to do. And what kind of message does that send to your players? After a loss you go to an opposing campus to party WITH a player from Missouri, make a total ass out of yourself, and talk smack about your players? Sorry, not the kind of coach I would respect. People are people, but if you are a college coach you are representing both yourself and your employer when you are in a public setting. Comes with the job description and the territory. You think some parents of prospective recruits in the future might not be offended and think more than twice about sending their kid to play under a coach who shows that kind of poor judgement? Hurts recruiting (even if they lose one player who might change his mind) and I would care about that if I was associated with the university. Not saying he should be fired, but some type of punishment is justified.
Having too much to drink at a social event with adults is one thing, but seeking out a good time and getting wasted like some 19 yr old at frat/apartment parties at K-State and Mizzou is another. I'm sure that certain ISU alum and staff "love" that, eh? The guy used poor judgment for sure, but this IS a big deal just because of that fact.
I guess we shouldn't care about other people's "personal lives", but the fact is that he is the most widely-recognized name who is an authority figure at Iowa St. So he DOES represent the school. That's obvious. It might not be a big deal to us, but to the Iowa St. community and the state of Iowa, it is a big deal to many. It's a local problem and it'll be handled by Iowa St.
Eustachy's surely not a "working schmuck". Heck, he SHOULD be held to a higher standard, one to match his hefty salary!
I guess we shouldn't care about other people's "personal lives", but the fact is that he is the most widely-recognized name who is an authority figure at Iowa St. So he DOES represent the school. That's obvious. It might not be a big deal to us, but to the Iowa St. community and the state of Iowa, it is a big deal to many. It's a local problem and it'll be handled by Iowa St.
Eustachy's surely not a "working schmuck". Heck, he SHOULD be held to a higher standard, one to match his hefty salary!
This guy, lol, is a total ass. I agree that this is more of a reflection on the man than the actual university (embarassment is the least of his problems at this point... I'm sure the wife is ripping him a new one, hourly).
But I can totally see how this could adversely affect the university. I know I wouldn't be sending my kid to a school that has faculty socializing with my kids and drinking 50 cent beer while being "affectionate" with them.
If a guy can act immature and irresponsible in a situation like this, what does that say about his character, and therefore coaching ability? Isn't a big part of coaching about having respect from your players and creating a rapport with them, in order to effectively lead them?
But I can totally see how this could adversely affect the university. I know I wouldn't be sending my kid to a school that has faculty socializing with my kids and drinking 50 cent beer while being "affectionate" with them.
If a guy can act immature and irresponsible in a situation like this, what does that say about his character, and therefore coaching ability? Isn't a big part of coaching about having respect from your players and creating a rapport with them, in order to effectively lead them?
If this incident stops one person from going to Iowa State, other than a basketball player, that person has issues.
doesnt reflect on Iowa State at all unless they dont fire him...he should be gone by noon tomorrow
cant believe you say there is nothing wrong with this Shrimp...i think character is a big part of a coach...and this guy has none...cheats on his wife -- shows lack of loyalty and that he has no morals or working conscience (either or).....if I was a parent, there would be no way I would want this man shaping my kid the next 4 years....a real man of character would not act like this
plus it seems to be a repetitive problem.....i can see maybe if the guy has one breakdown you forgive the guy, but this has reportedly happened at other schools before Eustachy got to Iowa State and the guy hasn't grown up yet....
time for him to face the music -- actions have consequences and its time for Eustachy to face his
cant believe you say there is nothing wrong with this Shrimp...i think character is a big part of a coach...and this guy has none...cheats on his wife -- shows lack of loyalty and that he has no morals or working conscience (either or).....if I was a parent, there would be no way I would want this man shaping my kid the next 4 years....a real man of character would not act like this
plus it seems to be a repetitive problem.....i can see maybe if the guy has one breakdown you forgive the guy, but this has reportedly happened at other schools before Eustachy got to Iowa State and the guy hasn't grown up yet....
time for him to face the music -- actions have consequences and its time for Eustachy to face his
I agree character is part of a coach in any sport but I find it ridiculous how such a big stink is being made about him being caught drinking & partying. The man is human like anyone else. If he was 20 yrs old he would just be considered a typical frat guy getting wasted at a college party but because he is 45 & a hoops coach he is this awful man, please get off of it. He is human like anyone else regardless of his job title or salary so either make a stink about everyone else who has done the same thing or don't say a damn thing because you are just putting the man at a higher level because of his position when everyone in this world is equal & should be held to the same moral & thought process regardless of title.
