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I'll add to this thread with a recent update on 5-star WR recruit FRED DAVIS.
Five-star WR torn between three schools -FoxSports
Five-star wide receiver Fred Davis was supposed to annnounce his decision late last week but he didn't. Davis is now torn between three schools. When will he commit and who are the lucky three?
What will Davis do? That's what a lot of recruiting fans and four schools want to know. According to Davis, a decision date is still not set but know he has narrowed his list from four schools to three.
"It's gonna be Ohio State, USC or Miami," Davis said. "I had a good visit to Florida last weekend. It was cool but Florida started recruiting me a little too late.
"Ohio State is my home team. I feel that I can step right in there and play. Plus, I am hearing a decision with Maurice (Clarett) could come soon about him be re-instated on the team. If that happens I am going to Ohio State for sure. It would be a done deal.
"USC has a wide open offense and they like to throw the ball. I would also love to play with (WR) Mike Williams. He and I have struck up a real good relationship.
"Miami is bringing in some more great players. They are also looking for a big wide receiver, like Andre Johnson and I am that type of receiver."
So it's done to three lucky schools for this five-star wide receiver from Toledo (Ohio) Rogers High School. He just graduated high school last week, and Davis has no idea when his decision will go down.
"I am leaving for Ohio State today to go hang out with some of the guys," he said. "... If I make a decision this week, I will enroll at that school now. If I don't, I will enroll this summer. I just don't know yet. It has been a little stressful as you could imagine but with school done now that helps me."
http://www.foxsports.com/content/view?contentId=2069954
Five-star WR torn between three schools -FoxSports
Five-star wide receiver Fred Davis was supposed to annnounce his decision late last week but he didn't. Davis is now torn between three schools. When will he commit and who are the lucky three?
What will Davis do? That's what a lot of recruiting fans and four schools want to know. According to Davis, a decision date is still not set but know he has narrowed his list from four schools to three.
"It's gonna be Ohio State, USC or Miami," Davis said. "I had a good visit to Florida last weekend. It was cool but Florida started recruiting me a little too late.
"Ohio State is my home team. I feel that I can step right in there and play. Plus, I am hearing a decision with Maurice (Clarett) could come soon about him be re-instated on the team. If that happens I am going to Ohio State for sure. It would be a done deal.
"USC has a wide open offense and they like to throw the ball. I would also love to play with (WR) Mike Williams. He and I have struck up a real good relationship.
"Miami is bringing in some more great players. They are also looking for a big wide receiver, like Andre Johnson and I am that type of receiver."
So it's done to three lucky schools for this five-star wide receiver from Toledo (Ohio) Rogers High School. He just graduated high school last week, and Davis has no idea when his decision will go down.
"I am leaving for Ohio State today to go hang out with some of the guys," he said. "... If I make a decision this week, I will enroll at that school now. If I don't, I will enroll this summer. I just don't know yet. It has been a little stressful as you could imagine but with school done now that helps me."
http://www.foxsports.com/content/view?contentId=2069954
Brohm makes decision to attend Louisville
Ultimately, Brian Brohm decided there was no place like home. The 2003 Mr. Football, one of the nation's most highly touted high school quarterbacks, announced Tuesday he will play at Louisville, where his father and two brothers played.
Brian Brohm will bring his strong right arm to next season.
By Jamie Rhodes, the Louisville Courier-Journal.
"In my heart, Louisville was always No. 1 on the list," Brohm said during a news conference at Trinity High School.
The 6-foot-4, 205-pound Brohm, ranked the nation's No. 1 prep quarterback by recruiting analyst Tom Lemming, picked the Cardinals over Kentucky, Notre Dame and Tennessee.
Rumors and speculation have swirled for months about Brohm's decision, but Brohm said he didn't make up his mind until meeting with his family last Thursday.
"It was a compilation of things and putting everything together and making every piece fit perfectly. Where that was going to happen was Louisville," he said.
Brohm's father, Oscar, and brother, Jeff, were quarterbacks for Louisville and brother, Greg, was a receiver. Jeff is now Louisville's quarterbacks coach.
Brohm admitted the family ties helped sway him.
"I've been a Louisville fan pretty much all my life. That's where my heart is," said Brohm, flanked at a podium by the three state championship trophies the Shamrocks won during his prep career. "My brother's coaching there now, and to have that special connection to your brother as your coach will be a big plus."
Brohm never lost as a starter in 15 state playoff games and completed 65% of his career passes, a state record. He finished with 10,579 passing yards, 698 completions and 119 touchdown passes, all second in the state's record book behind former Leslie County star Tim Couch, now with the NFL's Cleveland Browns.
Brohm told Louisville coach Bobby Petrino his decision on Saturday. Petrino, a former quarterback, is known as an offensive guru, and the Cardinals averaged 35 points and 489 yards per game last season running his fast-paced scheme.
Brohm said Petrino's style of play was also a deciding factor.
"His offense is tailor-made for how I like to play," Brohm said. "I want to be somewhere where I can learn how to play and excel at quarterback to enhance myself to go to the NFL. That's what I want to do."
Brohm said the recent announcement that Louisville would move into the Big East was another plus. The Cardinals, members of Conference USA, are locked out of the Bowl Championship Series but won't be when they switch leagues in 2005.
"I don't think I could see myself going somewhere where's there's not an opportunity, at least, to compete for a national title," Brohm said.
Brohm's decision creates a quarterback controversy for Petrino. Senior-to-be Stefan LeFors earned first-team All-Conference USA honors after passing for 2,921 yards and 15 touchdowns. His backup is sophomore-to-be Justin Rascati, one of the top-rated prep quarterbacks in Florida in 2001.
"That was a big issue, the quarterback situation," Brohm said. "But he (Coach Petrino) said coming into summer camp, it would be open, a battle for the starting job between me and Stefan."
All-purpose sophomore-to-be Michael Bush, the 2002 Mr. Football, has said he wants to play quarterback, too, although he settled into a role at running back last season.
Brohm and Bush staged one of the most memorable duels in state high school football history in the 2002 Class 4-A championship game between Trinity and Louisville Male. Brohm threw for 552 yards and Bush threw for 468 in the Shamrocks' 59-56 win.
"I have not talked to Michael Bush," Brohm said. "But it would be a pleasure to play with a talent such as his."
Jeff Brohm, the Louisville assistant, was recruiting out of town Tuesday and didn't attend his brother's news conference. The rest of his family sat quietly nearby as Brian spoke to reporters.
Greg Brohm said the meeting in the family's living room last Thursday night lasted less than an hour.
"We had already hashed out a lot of the details, but we went over everything one last time," said Greg Brohm, who played for Louisville from 1989-92. "You could see Brian was ready to get it over with. He wanted to do it right then, but we said, 'Let's wait and do it the proper way.'"
Brian said he ranked his final four choices but wouldn't divulge the order. He said Kentucky was "not the right fit for me."
"It would've been interesting if I would've broken the family ties and gone down the road," Brohm said. "(Kentucky coach) Rich Brooks, I really liked him, I really liked the coaching staff and the way they're going. It was a tough decision."
Ultimately, Brian Brohm decided there was no place like home. The 2003 Mr. Football, one of the nation's most highly touted high school quarterbacks, announced Tuesday he will play at Louisville, where his father and two brothers played.
Brian Brohm will bring his strong right arm to next season.
By Jamie Rhodes, the Louisville Courier-Journal.
"In my heart, Louisville was always No. 1 on the list," Brohm said during a news conference at Trinity High School.
The 6-foot-4, 205-pound Brohm, ranked the nation's No. 1 prep quarterback by recruiting analyst Tom Lemming, picked the Cardinals over Kentucky, Notre Dame and Tennessee.
Rumors and speculation have swirled for months about Brohm's decision, but Brohm said he didn't make up his mind until meeting with his family last Thursday.
"It was a compilation of things and putting everything together and making every piece fit perfectly. Where that was going to happen was Louisville," he said.
Brohm's father, Oscar, and brother, Jeff, were quarterbacks for Louisville and brother, Greg, was a receiver. Jeff is now Louisville's quarterbacks coach.
Brohm admitted the family ties helped sway him.
"I've been a Louisville fan pretty much all my life. That's where my heart is," said Brohm, flanked at a podium by the three state championship trophies the Shamrocks won during his prep career. "My brother's coaching there now, and to have that special connection to your brother as your coach will be a big plus."
Brohm never lost as a starter in 15 state playoff games and completed 65% of his career passes, a state record. He finished with 10,579 passing yards, 698 completions and 119 touchdown passes, all second in the state's record book behind former Leslie County star Tim Couch, now with the NFL's Cleveland Browns.
Brohm told Louisville coach Bobby Petrino his decision on Saturday. Petrino, a former quarterback, is known as an offensive guru, and the Cardinals averaged 35 points and 489 yards per game last season running his fast-paced scheme.
Brohm said Petrino's style of play was also a deciding factor.
"His offense is tailor-made for how I like to play," Brohm said. "I want to be somewhere where I can learn how to play and excel at quarterback to enhance myself to go to the NFL. That's what I want to do."
Brohm said the recent announcement that Louisville would move into the Big East was another plus. The Cardinals, members of Conference USA, are locked out of the Bowl Championship Series but won't be when they switch leagues in 2005.
"I don't think I could see myself going somewhere where's there's not an opportunity, at least, to compete for a national title," Brohm said.
Brohm's decision creates a quarterback controversy for Petrino. Senior-to-be Stefan LeFors earned first-team All-Conference USA honors after passing for 2,921 yards and 15 touchdowns. His backup is sophomore-to-be Justin Rascati, one of the top-rated prep quarterbacks in Florida in 2001.
"That was a big issue, the quarterback situation," Brohm said. "But he (Coach Petrino) said coming into summer camp, it would be open, a battle for the starting job between me and Stefan."
All-purpose sophomore-to-be Michael Bush, the 2002 Mr. Football, has said he wants to play quarterback, too, although he settled into a role at running back last season.
Brohm and Bush staged one of the most memorable duels in state high school football history in the 2002 Class 4-A championship game between Trinity and Louisville Male. Brohm threw for 552 yards and Bush threw for 468 in the Shamrocks' 59-56 win.
"I have not talked to Michael Bush," Brohm said. "But it would be a pleasure to play with a talent such as his."
Jeff Brohm, the Louisville assistant, was recruiting out of town Tuesday and didn't attend his brother's news conference. The rest of his family sat quietly nearby as Brian spoke to reporters.
Greg Brohm said the meeting in the family's living room last Thursday night lasted less than an hour.
"We had already hashed out a lot of the details, but we went over everything one last time," said Greg Brohm, who played for Louisville from 1989-92. "You could see Brian was ready to get it over with. He wanted to do it right then, but we said, 'Let's wait and do it the proper way.'"
Brian said he ranked his final four choices but wouldn't divulge the order. He said Kentucky was "not the right fit for me."
"It would've been interesting if I would've broken the family ties and gone down the road," Brohm said. "(Kentucky coach) Rich Brooks, I really liked him, I really liked the coaching staff and the way they're going. It was a tough decision."
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
USC (the best postition to win the most titles in the next 5 years)
OU
LSU
Michigan
Ohio St.
Florida
FSU
UGA
Texas
These are the teams "in my opinion" that realistically will have chances to win National Titles in the next 5 years. What do all these schools I mentioned above have in common??? Great Recruiting classes. What seperates these top schools from another is "coaching." However, recruiting success must come first in contending for National Championships.
I think CAL is the scariest up and coming team in the Nation. Tedford is a scary good head coach building a great program at CAL.
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Why is it no surprise you have USC possibly winning the most titles 
Where is Miami Florida? You are clueless if you leave them off as all those Florida schools do is just reload.
Where is Miami Florida? You are clueless if you leave them off as all those Florida schools do is just reload.
Your right, I forgot Miami Florida. I did not think too long when making the list. They def. deserve to be put up there, however I am not a big Coker fan.
Why did I put USC as #1???
#1) Coaching staff
#2) Loaded with young talent who played as FROSH and SOPH and contributed with key roles.
#3) Lienart QB now with Booty as future (Booty is better)
#4) Last year #1 Recruiting class, this year top 3 at the very least
#5) Won a NC in a rebuilding year, next 5 years will not be rebuilding years. Beat the #3 and #4 teams in the nation last 2 years in BCS games. Actually dominated.
#6) Carroll has "never" lost in November, shows how all of his teams in the last 3 years have improved as the season went on and play their best football at the end of the year. (as you are suppose too)
#7) STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING PROGRAM!!! Next year will only be the 4th year under the new USC S&C program, and USC already is one of the top physical teams in the country. NFL teams come to USC practices to see how they are run and the S&C program. They were amazed how the USC rookies in NFL responded to their practices and saying they were a cake walk compared to USC.
#8) USC IS BUILDING A DYNASTY!!!!! VERY SCARY WHAT IS HAPPENING AT USC!!!!! I can make very good arguments that USC has been playing the best football in the nation at the end of each of the last 2 years. NO other team can make a stronger argument than USC. These last 2 years have been glimpes what USC football will be like in the next 5 years of the Pete Carroll Era. Hopefully, Carroll, Chow, Orgeron, Davis, and Pola do not leave. Best coaching staff in the nation. Rumor is Orgeron, the USC DL coach, might become the new Texas DC and Recruiting coordinator. I hope not.
Why did I put USC as #1???
#1) Coaching staff
#2) Loaded with young talent who played as FROSH and SOPH and contributed with key roles.
#3) Lienart QB now with Booty as future (Booty is better)
#4) Last year #1 Recruiting class, this year top 3 at the very least
#5) Won a NC in a rebuilding year, next 5 years will not be rebuilding years. Beat the #3 and #4 teams in the nation last 2 years in BCS games. Actually dominated.
#6) Carroll has "never" lost in November, shows how all of his teams in the last 3 years have improved as the season went on and play their best football at the end of the year. (as you are suppose too)
#7) STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING PROGRAM!!! Next year will only be the 4th year under the new USC S&C program, and USC already is one of the top physical teams in the country. NFL teams come to USC practices to see how they are run and the S&C program. They were amazed how the USC rookies in NFL responded to their practices and saying they were a cake walk compared to USC.
#8) USC IS BUILDING A DYNASTY!!!!! VERY SCARY WHAT IS HAPPENING AT USC!!!!! I can make very good arguments that USC has been playing the best football in the nation at the end of each of the last 2 years. NO other team can make a stronger argument than USC. These last 2 years have been glimpes what USC football will be like in the next 5 years of the Pete Carroll Era. Hopefully, Carroll, Chow, Orgeron, Davis, and Pola do not leave. Best coaching staff in the nation. Rumor is Orgeron, the USC DL coach, might become the new Texas DC and Recruiting coordinator. I hope not.
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I'm not saying your reasons on having them #1 are not solid but you could understand why some might not take it seriously because of what seems like a strong bias towards your school
I assume you still go there as a student currently.
I assume you still go there as a student currently.
bit of a suprise.....
LSU scores BIG again
By Jamie Newberg
Date: Jan 25, 2004
Earlier today, LSU scored big with the commitment of five-star WR Xavier Carter. What an array of offensive talent Saban and company are putting together in Baton Rouge.
LSU scores BIG again
By Jamie Newberg
Date: Jan 25, 2004
Earlier today, LSU scored big with the commitment of five-star WR Xavier Carter. What an array of offensive talent Saban and company are putting together in Baton Rouge.
Very good recruiting class for LSU. They recruited great before winning a NC, so now how easy is it for LSU to sell themselves to recruits. Saban is an awesome recruiter. I was not sold on his game day coaching until LSU beat OU (even though OU was over-rated). Saban never really won big games but now he has. Congrats to him and his program.
USC was interested in that DAUCET (i think thats his name). He should be a "very" exciting player and no way USC was gonna steal him away from LA and Saban.
How is the QB situation? I was not a Mauk fan. Do you think LSU will have good chance to repeat?
USC was interested in that DAUCET (i think thats his name). He should be a "very" exciting player and no way USC was gonna steal him away from LA and Saban.
How is the QB situation? I was not a Mauk fan. Do you think LSU will have good chance to repeat?
LSU has 2 Frosh QBs who red-shirted last season.
Mauck was 18-2 as a starter, but LSU won games and Nat'l Title with the best D in the nation hands down. He made many mistakes vs OU and nearly cost LSU the Ole Miss game. QB Jamarcus Russel from Mobile, AL, was rated the consensus #1 QB in the land last season. My source close to the program tells me that he has grown 2 inches in a year ( now 6'6'')and his physical gifts, including arm strength and mobility for a big man, are unbelievable. It has yet to be determined what he's got between the ears. QB Matt Flynn of Tyler TX was consensus top 10 QB in last years class. Source tells me he looks better than what they expected when they signed him. If beaten out he may transfer rather than ride pine for 3-4 years.
Early Doucet and Xavier Carter are both hyper-athletic WR's. Doucet (6'1'')doesn't have the height of Carter(6'3"), but both will run track during the offseason. Carter is the Florida record holder in the 200m and both are considered to have world class speed.
Its a good time to be a Tiger fan, and I sure the same can be said about USC. It is truly unbelievable how quickly a good Head Coach can turn a program around.
Mauck was 18-2 as a starter, but LSU won games and Nat'l Title with the best D in the nation hands down. He made many mistakes vs OU and nearly cost LSU the Ole Miss game. QB Jamarcus Russel from Mobile, AL, was rated the consensus #1 QB in the land last season. My source close to the program tells me that he has grown 2 inches in a year ( now 6'6'')and his physical gifts, including arm strength and mobility for a big man, are unbelievable. It has yet to be determined what he's got between the ears. QB Matt Flynn of Tyler TX was consensus top 10 QB in last years class. Source tells me he looks better than what they expected when they signed him. If beaten out he may transfer rather than ride pine for 3-4 years.
Early Doucet and Xavier Carter are both hyper-athletic WR's. Doucet (6'1'')doesn't have the height of Carter(6'3"), but both will run track during the offseason. Carter is the Florida record holder in the 200m and both are considered to have world class speed.
Its a good time to be a Tiger fan, and I sure the same can be said about USC. It is truly unbelievable how quickly a good Head Coach can turn a program around.
I could not agree with you more. Before USC hired Pete Carroll, I did not think coaching made that much of a difference. I could not have been more wrong. Talent does not win games alone, coaching does.
I hope LSU has the same suprising succuss as USC did with Lienart this year. Only difference is you expect great things from your young QB. Lienart was a huge suprise. Great coaching by Chow and staff.
I am extremely confident USC will be in the title game this year, and I will be rooting for LSU to be their opponent.
great...another year from this goofball......its great to be a illini fan.....
CHAMPAIGN, Ill. (AP) - Illinois quarterback Jon Beutjer was granted a sixth year of eligibility by the NCAA on Friday.
Beutjer, who started seven games last season before being sidelined by a back injury, had asked for the extra year before last season started because of the circumstances surrounding his transfer from Iowa in 2001.
Beutjer began his college career with the Hawkeyes in 1999, but left the school after sustaining a concussion during a fight with his teammate and roommate over payment of a cable television bill. Beutjer said he was disappointed with how Iowa coaches handled the situation.
The NCAA's Student-Athlete Reinstatement Committee announced its decision Friday.
"This is a great opportunity, and I am just very thankful to Coach (Ron) Turner, the university and the NCAA for being so supportive of my desire to play another year of collegiate football," Beutjer said in a statement issued by the school.
After his transfer, Beutjer sat out the 2001 season at Illinois as required by NCAA rules. He became the Illini's starting quarterback midway through the 2002 season and started the first seven games last season before a herniated disc caused him to miss the last five games.
He has passed for 4,008 yards and 31 touchdowns in two seasons.
"We certainly are glad to have him for another season, and he obviously adds a lot to our team," Turner said. "I know this is something he really wanted."
CHAMPAIGN, Ill. (AP) - Illinois quarterback Jon Beutjer was granted a sixth year of eligibility by the NCAA on Friday.
Beutjer, who started seven games last season before being sidelined by a back injury, had asked for the extra year before last season started because of the circumstances surrounding his transfer from Iowa in 2001.
Beutjer began his college career with the Hawkeyes in 1999, but left the school after sustaining a concussion during a fight with his teammate and roommate over payment of a cable television bill. Beutjer said he was disappointed with how Iowa coaches handled the situation.
The NCAA's Student-Athlete Reinstatement Committee announced its decision Friday.
"This is a great opportunity, and I am just very thankful to Coach (Ron) Turner, the university and the NCAA for being so supportive of my desire to play another year of collegiate football," Beutjer said in a statement issued by the school.
After his transfer, Beutjer sat out the 2001 season at Illinois as required by NCAA rules. He became the Illini's starting quarterback midway through the 2002 season and started the first seven games last season before a herniated disc caused him to miss the last five games.
He has passed for 4,008 yards and 31 touchdowns in two seasons.
"We certainly are glad to have him for another season, and he obviously adds a lot to our team," Turner said. "I know this is something he really wanted."
Scott, while Pete and the boys may be great coaches, they are quickly becoming the sleeziest recruiters in college football. These are taken from recent rivals articles (since Fred Davis's Committment):
Cameron Colvin (Five Star Wideout)
Another factor that will have to be considered in the final days of his recruitment is other wide receiver prospects that sign with the three schools at the top of his list. Slots were available at Michigan after the class of 2003 failed to produce a single wide receiver commitment. Now, each of the remaining schools has heavily pursued additional prospects at that position along with Colvin.
?I?ve talked to him about it, and as a parent you want your child to get the most accolades he can in going to college, especially in his role,? Lightner added. ?In [De La Salle?s] veer [offense] he?s been a team player and been blocking and doing the whole package as opposed to going to college; now, he can start getting his receptions and the things he has been working so hard to attain.
?Cameron, to be honest, doesn?t care who goes where because in his mind he feels he can beat out whoever goes where. From a parent?s standpoint I feel how much is enough. ?SC is trying to get everybody at every position and it?s like when does this become a problem. When is too much, too much and kids start to transfer out.?
Lightner added that USC, and especially offensive coordinator Norm Chow, have assured Colvin that he would be a feature in their offense if he were to sign with the Trojans. Lightner cited the tailback position at UCLA, which featured former De La Salle tailback Maurice Drew beating out incumbent Tyler Ebell and prompting Ebell?s transfer, as an example of when a position gets too crowded.
?USC has really broken down where he will fit and they see him as a different wide receiver completely,? Lightner remarked. ?Norm Chow is not really a big recruiting guy, but he has been here three or four times already and told Cam that ?if you came to USC you?d be my number one guy after Mike Williams.? That?s strong, but at the same time you see all these kids coming in and you raise an eyebrow.?
Dwayne Jarret (4 Star Wideout)
Jarrett, the No. 2 athlete in the country and the No. 44 player overall as ranked by Rivals.com, was a heavy lean to Southern Cal early in the process. However, Virginia made a strong push in December. Where do things stand now?
"It's tough," he said. "I spoke to coach Groh and coach Carroll on Sunday, they both came to my house. Each of them told me exactly how I'd be used. At Virginia, I'd be an instant impact guy and the speed receiver they need. At USC I'd rotate with Mike Williams and learn from the best. They use a lot of three wideout sets so I'd play a bunch there as well."
Does the recent commitment of five-star wideout Fred Davis affect Jarrett?
"No, because we won't be playing the same role," he said. "Fred is a great player, but they told me that I'm their No. 1 guy and they have specific plans for me. I believe them."
So Pete, how many #1 guys are you gonna have? Mike Williams is back, as are sophmore five stars Whitney Lewis and Steve Smith. Five Star WR recruit Fred Davis and is in the fold (not to mention 4-star Mike Bumpus), and yet uncommitted Cam Colvin and Dwayne Jarret are BOTH USC's #1 WR target. Interesting.
Whats sad is all of these kids may go west to be Mike Williams' replacement, and inevitably two or three will have to transfer or switch from their preferred position because SC coaches lied to them.
Cameron Colvin (Five Star Wideout)
Another factor that will have to be considered in the final days of his recruitment is other wide receiver prospects that sign with the three schools at the top of his list. Slots were available at Michigan after the class of 2003 failed to produce a single wide receiver commitment. Now, each of the remaining schools has heavily pursued additional prospects at that position along with Colvin.
?I?ve talked to him about it, and as a parent you want your child to get the most accolades he can in going to college, especially in his role,? Lightner added. ?In [De La Salle?s] veer [offense] he?s been a team player and been blocking and doing the whole package as opposed to going to college; now, he can start getting his receptions and the things he has been working so hard to attain.
?Cameron, to be honest, doesn?t care who goes where because in his mind he feels he can beat out whoever goes where. From a parent?s standpoint I feel how much is enough. ?SC is trying to get everybody at every position and it?s like when does this become a problem. When is too much, too much and kids start to transfer out.?
Lightner added that USC, and especially offensive coordinator Norm Chow, have assured Colvin that he would be a feature in their offense if he were to sign with the Trojans. Lightner cited the tailback position at UCLA, which featured former De La Salle tailback Maurice Drew beating out incumbent Tyler Ebell and prompting Ebell?s transfer, as an example of when a position gets too crowded.
?USC has really broken down where he will fit and they see him as a different wide receiver completely,? Lightner remarked. ?Norm Chow is not really a big recruiting guy, but he has been here three or four times already and told Cam that ?if you came to USC you?d be my number one guy after Mike Williams.? That?s strong, but at the same time you see all these kids coming in and you raise an eyebrow.?
Dwayne Jarret (4 Star Wideout)
Jarrett, the No. 2 athlete in the country and the No. 44 player overall as ranked by Rivals.com, was a heavy lean to Southern Cal early in the process. However, Virginia made a strong push in December. Where do things stand now?
"It's tough," he said. "I spoke to coach Groh and coach Carroll on Sunday, they both came to my house. Each of them told me exactly how I'd be used. At Virginia, I'd be an instant impact guy and the speed receiver they need. At USC I'd rotate with Mike Williams and learn from the best. They use a lot of three wideout sets so I'd play a bunch there as well."
Does the recent commitment of five-star wideout Fred Davis affect Jarrett?
"No, because we won't be playing the same role," he said. "Fred is a great player, but they told me that I'm their No. 1 guy and they have specific plans for me. I believe them."
So Pete, how many #1 guys are you gonna have? Mike Williams is back, as are sophmore five stars Whitney Lewis and Steve Smith. Five Star WR recruit Fred Davis and is in the fold (not to mention 4-star Mike Bumpus), and yet uncommitted Cam Colvin and Dwayne Jarret are BOTH USC's #1 WR target. Interesting.
Whats sad is all of these kids may go west to be Mike Williams' replacement, and inevitably two or three will have to transfer or switch from their preferred position because SC coaches lied to them.
CWood97
Nice post, and I agree with you in that a coach should not lie to players. However, in Norm Chow's offense, "everyone" plays and touches the ball. NOBODY is the man. Not even Mike Williams. USC uses multiple weapons and takes what the defense gives you. USC uses 5-6 WR's a game. If they work hard, they will get the ball. Maybe not a lot. I do know for a fact, that Pete Carroll tells recruits on his visits don't come to USC if you do not like competition. At USC you will be competing every practice. Maybe, just maybe the coaches told the players they can become the #1 player if they work hard. Remember, all these recruits have huge egos and they stretch the truth. For example, many recruits here in CA claim to have offers from USC when they in fact do not. This helps their recruitment.
Last year USC recruited 3 RB's ranked top 10. #1 RB in the nation along with the #8 and #9 in the nation. USC already had Hershall Dennis, soph RB who was top 10 nationally as well. So now USC had 4 top 10 nationally ranked RB's out of high school and 3 are FROSH and 1 SOPH. Very young. Guess what, NO PROBLEMS AT ALL. Chow found time for each one of them and found a role. USC stresses team football.
Let me fill you in. Colvin is a smart person. He wants USC to get top notch players because he then will not have to fight double teams. Also, Colvin thinks he is the #1 WR in the nation so he is not scared of competition.
I have heard USC most likely will be getting at least 1 of the 2. Colvin and Jarret, and "maybe" both. Remember, Davis, Jarret, and Colvin have all verballed to Carroll. Will they stick with their verbal?
BTW, USC beat out Michigan for the DL Germany. He verballed to Carroll. He did not want Carroll to give away is scholarship. Will USC beat out Michigan for Colvin? Will USC get DAVIS AND JARRET, and Michigan get Colvin, and OSU get screwed royally? That be funny.
Nice post, and I agree with you in that a coach should not lie to players. However, in Norm Chow's offense, "everyone" plays and touches the ball. NOBODY is the man. Not even Mike Williams. USC uses multiple weapons and takes what the defense gives you. USC uses 5-6 WR's a game. If they work hard, they will get the ball. Maybe not a lot. I do know for a fact, that Pete Carroll tells recruits on his visits don't come to USC if you do not like competition. At USC you will be competing every practice. Maybe, just maybe the coaches told the players they can become the #1 player if they work hard. Remember, all these recruits have huge egos and they stretch the truth. For example, many recruits here in CA claim to have offers from USC when they in fact do not. This helps their recruitment.
Last year USC recruited 3 RB's ranked top 10. #1 RB in the nation along with the #8 and #9 in the nation. USC already had Hershall Dennis, soph RB who was top 10 nationally as well. So now USC had 4 top 10 nationally ranked RB's out of high school and 3 are FROSH and 1 SOPH. Very young. Guess what, NO PROBLEMS AT ALL. Chow found time for each one of them and found a role. USC stresses team football.
Let me fill you in. Colvin is a smart person. He wants USC to get top notch players because he then will not have to fight double teams. Also, Colvin thinks he is the #1 WR in the nation so he is not scared of competition.
I have heard USC most likely will be getting at least 1 of the 2. Colvin and Jarret, and "maybe" both. Remember, Davis, Jarret, and Colvin have all verballed to Carroll. Will they stick with their verbal?
BTW, USC beat out Michigan for the DL Germany. He verballed to Carroll. He did not want Carroll to give away is scholarship. Will USC beat out Michigan for Colvin? Will USC get DAVIS AND JARRET, and Michigan get Colvin, and OSU get screwed royally? That be funny.
Today's up-date by Rivals.com's top 25 recruiting classes broke down by conference:
BIG XII: 7 top 25 classes
SEC: 6
B10: 5
P10: 4
ACC: 3
no Notre Dame up there.....:shrug:
BIG XII: 7 top 25 classes
SEC: 6
B10: 5
P10: 4
ACC: 3
no Notre Dame up there.....:shrug:
Notre Dame is having a horrible recruiting class. I think they are ranked around #40. ND fans cannot be happy. I have no idea how TY cannot recruit a top 10 class at ND. I know ND is very hard to get into and very good academically but USC has the same problem with academic casualties. No excuses for TY! UCLA also is having a bad recruiting class and there is no way that should happen either.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/ncaa/recruiting.top25/index.html
now what i don't understand is they have notre dame 17...wtf....
now what i don't understand is they have notre dame 17...wtf....
theinsiders.com......
Early Class 2004 rankings (1/30/04)
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Ranking based on overall class quality.
LSU, Florida and Southern California topped the Final 2003 Top Classes.
No. 1 Southern California (Top JCs)
No. 2 LSU
No. 3 Michigan
No. 4 Florida State
No. 5 Oklahoma
No. 6 Ohio State
No. 7 Miami-Florida
No. 8 Texas
No. 9 Georgia
No. 10 Texas A&M
No. 11 Tennessee
No. 12 Alabama
No. 13 Florida
No. 14 Oregon
No. 15 Maryland
No. 16 Michigan State
No. 17 Penn State
No. 18 Washington
No. 19 Kansas State (Top JCs)
No. 20 Arkansas
No. 21 California
No. 22 Nebraska
No. 23 Missouri
No. 24 Texas Tech (Top JCs)
No. 25 UCLA (Top JCs)
Tie No. 25 Purdue
Tie No. 25 Arizona State
Tie No. 25 Oregon State
Tie No. 25 Pittsburgh
Tie No. 25 Washington State
Early Class 2004 rankings (1/30/04)
Click on schools for complete lists.
Ranking based on overall class quality.
LSU, Florida and Southern California topped the Final 2003 Top Classes.
No. 1 Southern California (Top JCs)
No. 2 LSU
No. 3 Michigan
No. 4 Florida State
No. 5 Oklahoma
No. 6 Ohio State
No. 7 Miami-Florida
No. 8 Texas
No. 9 Georgia
No. 10 Texas A&M
No. 11 Tennessee
No. 12 Alabama
No. 13 Florida
No. 14 Oregon
No. 15 Maryland
No. 16 Michigan State
No. 17 Penn State
No. 18 Washington
No. 19 Kansas State (Top JCs)
No. 20 Arkansas
No. 21 California
No. 22 Nebraska
No. 23 Missouri
No. 24 Texas Tech (Top JCs)
No. 25 UCLA (Top JCs)
Tie No. 25 Purdue
Tie No. 25 Arizona State
Tie No. 25 Oregon State
Tie No. 25 Pittsburgh
Tie No. 25 Washington State
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