Lawyer hits the jackpot!!!

dr. freeze

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explain this away genius:

Medicine on Trial.

With the recent heated discussions on this board about the current medico-legal climate in the US, I though this article from the January issue of JAMA, and the replies published this week in the same journal, may be of interest to residents, students, and the odd lawyer here.

Merenstein, a family doc currently with the Johns Hopkins Hospital, was sued in 2002 for failure to order a PSA on a middle-aged patient who subsequently was found to have the most aggressive form of the cancer. Merenstein was a resident when he saw the patient.

The facts of the case appear to be as follows:

1.The patient, an educated 53 yr old, was seen by Merenstein for the first time in his resident clinic.

2.The patient had never had a PSA level evaluated before this visit.

3.Dr. Merenstein had a detailed discussion with the patient on the evidence for prostate ca screening, and the risks and benefits involved. He fully documented this discussion. The patient was encouraged to think about whether or not, having considered all the available information, he would like the test.

4.The reason Dr. Merenstein took his approach, instead of simply ordering the test, is that research has shown that the benefits of prostate screening is not a straight-forward, black-and-white issue (owing mainly to the high false positive rate and relatively low specificity of PSA). Because the evidence for the benefits of screening are not clear, the recommended approach is to discuss the issues with the patient and have the patient make an informed decision.

5.The patient never returned to Merenstein?s clinic for f/u.

6.The patient was later seen by an older FP who, disregarding the evidence, simply ordered the test.

7.The patient unfortunately turned out to thave the ca.

8.He sued Merenstein and the residency program.

9.At some point during the trial, Merenstein was ?exonerated?, but his program was found liable for US$1 million dollars.


This case was interesting to me because:

a.The doctor who practiced good medicine was sued ? precisely for practicing good medicine.

b.The plaintiff counsel held up bad medicine as the standard of care.

c.Incredibly (at least to anyone who is in medicine) plaintiff counsel actually attacked Evidence Based Medicine itself ? labelling it as a ?cost saving method?. He apparently even urged the jury to return a verdict to teach residency programs not to ever put residents on the street who practiced EBM. (!!!!)

d.To anyone with even a modicum of any medical knowledge, with any appreciation at all of medical science, this is the most absurd, insulting, and unimaginably stupid thing one could ever counsel. I think it is like saying that law schools should never let their graduates have any knowledge of the Constitution, because the Constitution is a tool to put people in jail.

e.The Jury, of course, agreed with counsel for Plaintiff.

f.The Jury were reported to say: "we had a hard time accepting that ignorance of PSA results was preferable to knowledge?, and "in the end the physician should recommend to the patient to get the PSA", thereby completely demonstrating that they had completely no clue.


It is cases like this which lead physicians to:

1.Believe that the law is destroying Medicine
2.Believe that med-mal lawyers are the scum of the earth
3.Believe that medicine is simply too complicated today for ignorant lay juries to judge medical cases entirely on their own
4.Practice bad medicine out of fear of being sued (ie. basically stop thinking, and just order every imaginable test under the sun)
 

Eddie Haskell

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Freeze:

I'm not going to take your version of the facts nor assumptions and leaps that you made to respond. Although I have no-life and all sorts of time on my hands, please post a link, if you have time, to this story and I will read it and respond (unlike you did with Joe Camel).

Mr. Majestic. Nice name by the way. You are just too smart. You really got me. Wow. I took 20 minutes to respond to your post. You took 58 or so minutes to respond to mine. Then I took 7 hours to re-respond, .... oh what the hell am I doing.

Seems like you have it all, friends, family, profession, etc. Your point that you have such a well rounded life evidenced by infrequent posts hase been empirically proven. Good job, Mr. M. or should I call you Ozzie Nelson (a personal friend of mine).

All I can say is a half wit is better than no wit. "Duty calls..." at 11:12 PM ? Did you have to take a shit or service your most unfortunate wife?

Its funny how in your first anti-Eddie post in this thread you said I'm writing to myself and in the second anti-Eddie post you said I'm talking aloud in an empty room. I want to thank you for responding to both of my posts.

You see my midwestern brother, you are helping me here in cyberworld. As the loser that I am and that you have so elequently defined, by continuing to respond to me you are making me ever more popular.

As a matter of fact, because of you, I may run for poster of the year here at Madjacks. Going to try and get a ground swell of support from my constituent, Dogs, Freeze, Blitz, Ctown, Wilson, etc.

Speaking of Ctown, did I dispose of him like I'm about to dispose of you. I think, yes. You see dolt, by responding to me, twice, sounds like you read my posts. From the tenure of your comments, sounds like you read all nearly 1100 of my pearls of wisdom over the last 40 months.

Sounds a little contradictory. But thanks for being a fan. No go kiss the slightly overweight missus and your two ADD kids goodbye and hurry off to your little cubicle at Allstate in Northridge and shuffle some papers.

God, am I envious.

Eddie
 

DOGS THAT BARK

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Stuman in answer to your question and in addition one of leading cause of health ins rates to skyrocket is cost of many unnecessary test that are run in exams.Cost of physical exams has tripled in past 5 years because Dr's are scared not to run any plausable test in fear of law suit. now Eddie would have you believe they are padding their pocket but believe me they are just trying to cover their ass.

Patients Die as Doctors Fear Malpractice

Sunday, April 25, 2004



MIAMI ? Last month, 53-year-old Barbara Masterson was rushed to a Palm Beach County, Fla., hospital suffering a stroke and in need of life-or-death care.

Jim Masterson said his wife was left untreated for five hours and eventually died while doctors searched for an out-of-county physician who'd operate. Not a single local neurosurgeon would come in, Masterson said.

"If you have a stroke in this part of the country then you're in deep trouble because the doctors won't see you," Masterson said.

Some neurosurgeons (search) aren't disputing his claim, saying they can't afford malpractice insurance and are afraid of being wiped out by lawsuits, so they reduce their risks by refusing emergency patients.

"It makes me feel very bad that I can't take care of a lot of patients... That I have to send them on and I can't take care of them ? can't accept that risk," said Dr. Jacques Farkas, a neurosurgeon in Palm Beach County (search).

Last month in Tallahassee, Fla., physicians blamed frivolous lawsuits for sky-high medical insurance and pushed for caps on malpractice attorney fees.

But some trial lawyers say there is no malpractice crisis and that patients are dying because doctors are playing the blame game instead of doing their job.

"I think its criminal," said trial attorney Marvin Kurzban. "I think its dereliction of duty. I think that's malpractice also."
 

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A million just isn't chit anymore so now we use a billion. A hundred gran will buy a chevy in another 10 years. It's just money why everyone get so hot. Remember in so many cases for experts to be hired and investigations for the defence to take place. They may spend up to 200000 grand. Thats why the 250000 grand rule will be ajoke. After expenses and the lawyer bill. The injured party may owe money. In this case I believe you will see it dropped down to a couple of million. Maybe just 100.
 
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