Leadership failure and how man puts their priorities first.

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I know the title of you thread is what you believe but maybe people are thinking for themselves and not believing everything that people were told since birth like Santa, Tooth Fairy, and Easter Bunny.

Maybe it is time that gays should be looked upon without prejudice in all forms, even church.

If nobody told me to believe in God or had mentioned God to me from birth, then I would never know any of the talk of religion and God existed. :shrug: It's not something people innately know from birth unless taught. Unlike self preservation, attributes one is born with.

This is one reason why I think religion is made up. For man to control man and have dominance over another. Nothing in this world has killed more people than religion.
 

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I know the title of you thread is what you believe but maybe people are thinking for themselves and not believing everything that people were told since birth like Santa, Tooth Fairy, and Easter Bunny.

Maybe it is time that gays should be looked upon without prejudice in all forms, even church.

If nobody told me to believe in God or had mentioned God to me from birth, then I would never know any of the talk of religion and God existed. :shrug: It's not something people innately know from birth unless taught. Unlike self preservation, attributes one is born with.

This is one reason why I think religion is made up. For man to control man and have dominance over another. Nothing in this world has killed more people than religion.

Wow,don't know were to start with this response as its all over the place.I do love the fairy tale one,such original.If you don't believe in the twelve tribes and the forming of the Israeli state thats fine its right under your nose.

As far as knowing something from birth,you could apply that to anything.As far as gays in a leadership role ,read ,no not just read ,read and understand the word and you will see why this is wrong.

Look at 1 Corinthians you can learn alot about this subject,if you can understand.I would advise a knowledgeable teacher to read and explain it as its hard to decipher on ones own.
 

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Oh yeah,religion is based on God,not man so I'm confused when you say man has used religion in a wrong way.I agree with you on that.Blame man,not God.
 

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Oh yeah,religion is based on God,not man so I'm confused when you say man has used religion in a wrong way.I agree with you on that.Blame man,not God.

Well i was blaming man for making up God. I really do hope I am wrong.

I call it a fairy tale because we are taught so many fairy tales at birth. Why might this one not be one?

I guess for me I have to see something to believe it.
 

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As far as knowing something from birth,you could apply that to anything.As far as gays in a leadership role ,read ,no not just read ,read and understand the word and you will see why this is wrong.

Yeah you could apply that to a lot of things but Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs is innate in all of us. Self preservation, We need food, shelter, etc. These are things that are not taught to us. Much like 1 + 1 equals 2. It is always going to be that way regardless if we are taught that or not. Where as religion you just don't know about it unless it is hammered down one's throat.

Gays in a leadership role is just wrong? What do you want me to read? :shrug: It's not my lifestyle but I do not care about another person's lifestyle so why are a lot of people not accepting of this?
Is it because people are sick of the idea? To tell you the truth the thought of it can male me queezy but does not make me hate. I think religion is a safe place for a few racists who can hide behind religion to spew hate towards a group?

It is only wrong because we as society have been told it is wrong, I think for myself and could care less what some guy in a gown tells me.,
 

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Yeah you could apply that to a lot of things but Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs is innate in all of us. Self preservation, We need food, shelter, etc. These are things that are not taught to us. Much like 1 + 1 equals 2. It is always going to be that way regardless if we are taught that or not. Where as religion you just don't know about it unless it is hammered down one's throat.

Gays in a leadership role is just wrong? What do you want me to read? :shrug: It's not my lifestyle but I do not care about another person's lifestyle so why are a lot of people not accepting of this?
Is it because people are sick of the idea? To tell you the truth the thought of it can male me queezy but does not make me hate. I think religion is a safe place for a few racists who can hide behind religion to spew hate towards a group?

It is only wrong because we as society have been told it is wrong, I think for myself and could care less what some guy in a gown tells me.,

Who do you think gives food and shelter?I'm not one to make you believe,I can't do that.How can I serve GOD and be a racist?I'm just following his lead,even on this topic.Sorry if it offends its not my intent.
 

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Who do you think gives food and shelter?I'm not one to make you believe,I can't do that.How can I serve GOD and be a racist?I'm just following his lead,even on this topic.Sorry if it offends its not my intent.

No I didn't say you were a racist. That was not my intent. I just feel that if you believe like me that religion is all made up then there has to be a racist point to it. I think people who are racists can hide behind religious beliefs to justify their racism.

When you are born and are a child adults give you food and shelter. As an adult, I do. It's not a belief that does.
 

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Who do you think gives food and shelter?I'm not one to make you believe,I can't do that.How can I serve GOD and be a racist?.

Coo koo. . . . Coo koo

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No I didn't say you were a racist. That was not my intent. I just feel that if you believe like me that religion is all made up then there has to be a racist point to it. I think people who are racists can hide behind religious beliefs to justify their racism.

When you are born and are a child adults give you food and shelter. As an adult, I do. It's not a belief that does.

I find it funny when guys fuck around their whole life and then when they have nothing or end up in prison, they find God. :facepalm:
 

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Well i was blaming man for making up God. I really do hope I am wrong.

I call it a fairy tale because we are taught so many fairy tales at birth. Why might this one not be one?

I guess for me I have to see something to believe it.

Hebrews 11:1 ~ "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen;..."

Isaiah 55:8-9 ~ "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. "
 

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Hebrews 11:1 ~ "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen;..."

Isaiah 55:8-9 ~ "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. "

Well apparently you just have to read it to believe it. What the hell was it going to say? It had to read that way? :shrug:

Like I said, I hope I am wrong, but I am just not going to believe something that defies science just because it has been passed down and that is what I was told. I guess we find out in the end.
 

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And the point I am trying to make is that religious people who follow the book of God look down on gays because of religion. I am sure many of them are phobes,

If God is real then he is a real asshole for creating gay people and then shunning them in his speakings. What a dink.
 

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I once read that "God hides himself in a thick darkness from the wise and prudent of this world."

If you really want to know the Holy God of Israel, the one and only true God, then YOU must seek him.

It requires a leap of faith.

You will not be disappointed.

Your choice.
 

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And the point I am trying to make is that religious people who follow the book of God look down on gays because of religion. I am sure many of them are phobes,

If God is real then he is a real asshole for creating gay people and then shunning them in his speakings. What a dink.

Yeah and if he made man in his own image what a shitty job there.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/...ientist-stephen-hawking-says/comment-page-53/

And the only reason Rusty started this thread had to be that this was the sunday sermon.

Nothing like getting up early on a sunday to be told what to think.
 

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....to each their own.

Seriously. Freedom of religion. The right to believe or not believe.

No reason to bash.
 
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