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[redsfann]

the exact response I expected from you...

An arrogant, dismissive, say-nothing response in the face of an overwhelming presentation of the facts to prove how absolutely wrong you are in this arguement...There are ABSOLUTELY NO comparisons possible between the far-right Fascism of the mid 20th century and the modern conservative movement that is found in today's Western socities...NONE! But you can't seem to figure that out. I'll give you a simple line graph for your simple little mind.

Communism/Socialism-----------liberalism-------The Center-------conservatism------------Fascism/Nazism

See how easy that is to understand?
Nope, not a closet communist. Just an open Socialist. Unlike you, I have never tried to hide my extreme political views from anyone at this forum.
Its a semi-free country; we both have the right to think what we want and to question others thoughts and beliefs.
If you want to think you are open minded for being too stupid to see the facts as they have been presented to you, then go right ahead. I'll gladly be called 'closed minded' in this case, and coming from someone like you, I consider it a complement.

 

[kosar]

.There are ABSOLUTELY NO comparisons possible between the far-right Fascism of the mid 20th century and the modern conservative movement that is found in today's Western socities...NONE!

This is the exact thing I tried to say over and over last month when we went through this nonsense. He just can't grasp the simple fact that those two things are not comparable and nobody (except for him) is trying to compare them.

Anybody who shows the slightest sign of critical thinking is always shot down by this clown as having been 'indoctrinated' by all those commie professors. This is interesting considering I suspect that he has been indoctrinated beyond hope by preachers and the like.

 

[dr. freeze]

If you two clowns were interested in having a legitimate argument, we could

but evidently you are unable to do so

that spectrum was concocted by marxist professors and has little to do with anything

you have made my point, in that conservatism has nothing to do with nazism, but for some reason it lies right next to it on your "scale"

communism is much closer to fasciism with its centralization of power, a clear cut ruling class and everyone else designated as some minion slave of the state, charismatic leaders stopping at nothing to achieve power, the complete centralization of power, etc. etc. yet it is the polar opposite according to your little diagram

that is my argument and also the argument of many conservative historians

the decentralization of power, distrust of government, anti-federalism, weakening of the government, all are on the right....as these ideas get more and more prevalent, you are not going anywhere near Nazi Germany.

This renders any linear spectrum irrelevant which is my point exactly

So throw that in the garbage because it doesnt belong anywhere

 

[kosar]

Freeze,

This is so far out there, even for you, that you can't get even one of the usual suspects around here to agree with you.

 

[dr. freeze]

nah actually nosigar posted a similar argument a few months ago which i did not comment on

there are many historians who have written likewise -- in fact almost any conservative historian will write likewise...you just never have been presented with this point of view

our premise that the textbooks and discourse in this country is set by leftwingers underlies our thinking in that this might be a little foreign to you

but it makes sense...and you and redsfann even can see glimpses of reason behind what i am saying

you are not totally blinded

 

[redsfann]

Hey Kosar, nice to see you around these parts...why we bother with this dofus is beyond me, but once i'm in, im in...lol

If this is your idea of 'arguement' freeze, then you win...

Conservative thought is the biggest oxymoron I have ever seen...
.no self-respecting conservative would even begin to try and make any of your half-baked, loony-tunes points in this discussion. Fascist losers like yourself, yes--
conservatives, such as William F. Buckley, not on your life...
Marxist professors? WTF? I'm supposed to have a debate with someone who actually thinks that the Universities of this country are filled with Marxists?
Only someone as clueless and as dense as you would take my scale and read into it that conservatism as we know it in the West sits right next to Fascism.

Look, the reason conservatism and fascism share the Right side of the scale is because of your treatments toward religion. You on the right are self-rightous, bible-thumping inbred yahoos, and those of us on the left have nothing to do with religion-- thus your term "Godless Communism"
Nazi Germany, which according to you was liberal(that still cracks me up, which is why I just had to add it here), had a working relationship with the Catholic Church,whereby the Church could continue to opperate in Hitler's germany as long as they didn't interfere with the Holocaust(or are you one of those "revisionist" right-wingers who believe that it was all just a big lie?)
...whereas all forms of religion are immediately banned from any far-left regimes such as what happened in China under Mao or the Soviet Union under Lenin.
This is such a simple little point that you should have learned in your High School History class when you were in the 9th grade, but Im guessing those bible thumpers at your private religious indoctrination camp, er, High School, were too busy telling you that Evolution is wrong and that Creationism is why we are here on Earth today.
So you just keep thinking that you know it all and I'll keep pretending that I don't know anything and life will go merrily about its way...

 

[dr. freeze]

more typical leftist garbage

when they can't dispute what you tell them, they go into endless diatribes of insults, insinuations, scoff, ridiculous accusations, etc. etc.

cant expect anything more or anything less

 

[dr. freeze]

Look, the reason conservatism and fascism share the Right side of the scale is because of your treatments toward religion.

LMAO if anyone is close to fasciism, it is you!!!


Do leftists as yourself give Christians as much respect as Hitler did the Jews?

Thats debatable. Just listen to yourself.

Your seething hatred is overwhelming!!

You sound like your buddy, Howard Dean!

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhh

 

[ocelot]

You are truly out of your mind Freeze.

First of all what would be the point of debating this? The Communists and Nazis were both totalitarian states. What difference does it make whether you choose to consider them right or left wing?

Unless your ultimate agenda is to equate all so-called "liberals" (i.e., moderates to everyone but yourself) as being not ONLY Commies but now Nazis too.