Short term loss for the party, long term gain for America. All decade+ incumbents must go! This is exactly what everyone around here has been saying needs to happen. Can't get weak kneed and over-analytical all of a sudden now that it looks like one could happen.
Lieberman
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smurphy said:
it's not the size of the state that is important. it's the status of the person running for office that's important.
joe lieberman is a very important politican for the democratic party.he is one of the few democrats who is viewed as strong on defense.
at a time of war, & make no mistake about it, we are at war, if the democrats vote lieberman out of office, they will lose any momentum they have.
smurphy said:
depends on who is replacing the incumbent. having a liberal voted in office weakens the party & the country at this time.
I don't care about the democrats. Get rid of as many incumbents as possible. I'm not worried - there will be plenty of Republicans that will lose in November and in 2 years.
Come on Al, you've been one of the main voices around here for cleaning house. So let's clean house - it's a good thing.
Come on Al, you've been one of the main voices around here for cleaning house. So let's clean house - it's a good thing.
smurphy said:
i don't want to see the democrats become weaker.
while your reading about the carter presidency..check out the democratic party after the mcgovern fiasco. only the watergate shit cost the republicans a contiuation of the presidency.
and there are plenty of politicians i would like to see gone, but not at the cost of a party's credibility.
AR182 said:
That's a DTB style response.
What happened to the old Al that wanted fresh blood in congress?
Look at this way - if Lieberman is "all that" then he'll rebound as an independent. It could spawn a stronger independent movement - attracting moderate Republicans to leave the party, free from fear of not surviving without the extremist support.
This could be a great step in shaking up the 2-party system - something that you have endorsed (or at least claimed to endorse) for quite some time.
smurphy said:
that's not a dtb response...nowhere in any of my posts do i talk about clinton (lol).
the carter reference was an answer to you mentioning about somebody weakening the country.
i would love to see an independent party. one that would be very viable.but not at the expense of the other 2 parties. and imo the dems. would become weaker, if the extreme left take over that party.
smurphy said:
NOW you're talking. I've long been advocating someone of substance and stature making a move to the Independent party, and causing a stir. It's what - I think - it will take to do some damage to the current pork barrel protectionism. Lieberman is just such a person, more middle of the road, someone who could galvanize others. Perot did pretty darn well causing a stir...if more would fall in line, heck, maybe a losing Republican of note this November to create a STRONG, unified independent ticket, that could be pretty cool.
Of course, I certainly don't want to damage the democratic party to see that happen, short term. But I can give a little for the good of the country. Unlike a few around here, I submit.
Lieberman/DeLay in 2008!! Woo-hoo!!
No, wait...must...slow...down... :slomo
StevieD said:
besides the iraq issue.....what other times has he voted along with the republicans ?
i have heard that he has voted with the democrats 90% of the time.
Lieberman is still a hard-core democrat with the notable exception of his unfortunate views on Iraq. However, that appears to be the only thing that matters in this particular primary.
Speaking for myself AR I was not impressed with the way Lieberman handled himself during the nominations for Supreme Court Judges.
So if Lieberman voted 90% of the time democratic party line then he should be easy for the Dems to replace.
So if Lieberman voted 90% of the time democratic party line then he should be easy for the Dems to replace.
the leftist looneys are possibly destroying a complete takeover of both houses in November with this vote
Among others, Santorum will benefit largely with swing voters who will see the nuts taking over the dems
Among others, Santorum will benefit largely with swing voters who will see the nuts taking over the dems
hearing him rail on Lieberman
anyone who is extreme enough to rail on Lieberman for being too conservative is a joke
anyone who is extreme enough to rail on Lieberman for being too conservative is a joke
living closer to this than most of you folks, I have not once heard him say Lieberman is to conservative, his difference is almost exclusively Iraq.
