line movement-how to cap it
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Where can i see what the overnite line was and how itmoved???? Are there any websites that track this. Thanks in advance.
you can traCK IT ON YOUR OWN OLY AND COUPLE OTHERS PUT LINES OUT THE DAY BEFOREco i use pages me with line changes in bb of over 1 point in a 1 hour period or 2 points total or more than one major house gets hit at once
jordan23, about 3 inches above you on your screen there is a link for live lines...
for fast track
here is nba:
click on the bracket beside the # for the book you want.
for fast track
here is nba:
click on the bracket beside the # for the book you want.
Gl Thunder!
A lot of what you say is true, but books will adjust if something gets to be public knowledge. You have exploited some things I agree with, concerning line movement, on a public forum. All books watch these forums and WILL adjust if they need too.
I've shared some things through private email that have found their way on to public forums over the years. It has cost me a lot of money, temporarily.
Thunder, you and many others use alot of tools, I just wish some were never made public. I'm talking about line movement.
I just fall off my chair when some people talk about what they have no clue about.
I'll give one example about the NFL last week: Most forums repeatedly say the KC Chiefs was a public play. The line opened at 6, and ended at 4.5. I don't feel that was a public play on KC.
Two weeks ago, TB line moved big against SF. If you went with both line moves, you were 0-2.
Books adjust all the time, and Nolan had a fairly good article today about books setting lines.
Bottomline, books adjust all the time and you need to try and stay as sharp as you can to adjustments. As an old-time dog player, I sure as hell have had to adjust with several sports over the years.
FWIW
A lot of what you say is true, but books will adjust if something gets to be public knowledge. You have exploited some things I agree with, concerning line movement, on a public forum. All books watch these forums and WILL adjust if they need too.
I've shared some things through private email that have found their way on to public forums over the years. It has cost me a lot of money, temporarily.
Thunder, you and many others use alot of tools, I just wish some were never made public. I'm talking about line movement.
I just fall off my chair when some people talk about what they have no clue about.
I'll give one example about the NFL last week: Most forums repeatedly say the KC Chiefs was a public play. The line opened at 6, and ended at 4.5. I don't feel that was a public play on KC.
Two weeks ago, TB line moved big against SF. If you went with both line moves, you were 0-2.
Books adjust all the time, and Nolan had a fairly good article today about books setting lines.
Bottomline, books adjust all the time and you need to try and stay as sharp as you can to adjustments. As an old-time dog player, I sure as hell have had to adjust with several sports over the years.
FWIW
KC is right. I have got very careful what I post at Jack's because it changes real quick. Three years ago the game before the last game in the NBA was an automatic over. The past two years it hasn't been. My line movement a 6 might be over but it was sure good to me last year. Good luck tonight.
i agree with Kc--100 percent--why exploit knowledge u know. I respect your capping but just seems like your touting, if u wanted everyone to know all the capping tools u learned over what i assume many years doing this, why have a pay service---just put out all your picks. Instead of giving line mov't methods. Again i respect your capping but some things should be kept under the rug.
STEAM:
It refers to people who only bet with the line movement. I.E. They will sit and watch don best and when a line moves, they will jump on it with a book who has yet to change to the new line.
It refers to people who only bet with the line movement. I.E. They will sit and watch don best and when a line moves, they will jump on it with a book who has yet to change to the new line.
Hmmmmmmmmmm Interesting thread.
Wayne, Gsp, and Innavation said it best though.
One comment I have is that it aint all square money moving them lines , say 1-15 minutes before tip off. if your following the right books of course. If you think it is, then your kidding yourself. A few fella's I yap around with can attest to that
Many steamers hit overnite, cause they love to scalp and arbitrage later during the day. But shit what does an Italian know about sports besides soccer
Wayne, Gsp, and Innavation said it best though.
One comment I have is that it aint all square money moving them lines , say 1-15 minutes before tip off. if your following the right books of course. If you think it is, then your kidding yourself. A few fella's I yap around with can attest to that
Many steamers hit overnite, cause they love to scalp and arbitrage later during the day. But shit what does an Italian know about sports besides soccer
Innavation said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this a forum to help each other out??? Why is sharing capping methods all of the sudden supposed to be hush hush around here? You guys make it sound like its so sacred and Thunder did something wrong. Heaven forbid he actually educated a few others on this forum. . . geez
Don't make it out to be more than it is. . . while watching line movement is an important tool, its not the only tool.
you guys are funny the the books are not going to adjust because the squares do not will never learn and havenot in 17 years i have been involved on that side of it-secondly sharpee money came in on sf early then all rthe squares came in and then sharpees pounded sf more right before game time because squares moved tb back up. this will cost me nothing because even on this forum there are not many sharpees. there are millions of betters and only about 20 percent of of the money is sharpee money so why in the world would a book get cute-if it aint broke do not fix it.
If your referring to the SF/TB game last week, Thunder. I guess we differ. That was a weak comeback if you really knew the opening line and tracked it all week. Different ways of reading lines is fine with me. That is healthy, and feel we all work hard to achieve positive results each year. Would also like to hear your comments on how the public played the KC/Buff game Sunday night, in relation to line movement.
And there is nothing wrong with sharing, as at least one has mentioned in this thread. I commend you all and wish you the best.
I have tried to do the same over three years now. I even tried a service for a year and a half now. Semi successful, but was hard on me, only in relation to line movement, and only pertains to my style. Not knocking anyone's methods.
I tried to share alot of things at this site, but line movement is something I will never share. There is a big difference in putting out plays to customers an hour before the game as to when I like to play games, again alluding to line movement. Again, not my style, and sure as hell not knocking anyone else.
Just so everyone knows on this site, I'm shutting down my service after football. May be back at sometime with a service, but not a priority anymore.
The priority has nothing to do with handicapping, as i have oher business decisions right now,
I will continue to contribute when possible.
Best to everyone! Hope I didn't start something more controversial. Was not my intent.
And there is nothing wrong with sharing, as at least one has mentioned in this thread. I commend you all and wish you the best.
I have tried to do the same over three years now. I even tried a service for a year and a half now. Semi successful, but was hard on me, only in relation to line movement, and only pertains to my style. Not knocking anyone's methods.
I tried to share alot of things at this site, but line movement is something I will never share. There is a big difference in putting out plays to customers an hour before the game as to when I like to play games, again alluding to line movement. Again, not my style, and sure as hell not knocking anyone else.
Just so everyone knows on this site, I'm shutting down my service after football. May be back at sometime with a service, but not a priority anymore.
The priority has nothing to do with handicapping, as i have oher business decisions right now,
I will continue to contribute when possible.
Best to everyone! Hope I didn't start something more controversial. Was not my intent.
i dont think its a big deal sharing any info here. i have read a zillion amount of articles since i got into this. and believe me there is no reason to keep anything hush hush. do you guys really think vegas fears even sharpees? hell fawking no. like i said awhille back read the october 2001 article in the wall stret journal on why casinos make money but the majority of bookies dont. it was an article on the "dying breed". it was reference to local bookies. there were undisclosed line makers in that article who said there is no such thing as a "sharp gambler" he said every gambler is considered dumb. and he said that Vegas goes after EVERYONE. the public money and the sharp money. it makes a lot of sense. think about it. if people really knew how to beat Vegas dont you think by now everyone would know about it and Vegas would have closed down long time ago. you guys dont think Vegas knows about the so called sharps? of course they do and they set up the sharps as well. just look this past Monday Night. Or better yet look at Jacksonville and Tennesee. Like a dumb ass I took Jacksonville and my bookie told me I was the ONLY one that took Jacksonville as all his players hit the Titans. He said it was the heaviest betgame by the public and he told me all his pals (other locals) were getting hit by Titan money also and several guys that consider themselves smart money took Jax HUGE. You guys know the rest of the story. and then in the afternoon his hardest hit game was Philly ONLY laying 3 points to the sorry ass Jets. You guys know the rest. the books took it on the chin. believe me this board isnt the first board to ever mention line reads and going versus public stuff. this has been a hot topic for decades and decades. and yet as the article states, " There are people in the forune 500's wealthiest list through the stock market, but still not one person ever has made the list being a sports gambler. Though gamblers who are usually in denial make themselves believe they are winning. No such thing now or ever" so anyway we try to digest this stuff helps, rather than keep it hush hush. Cause the chances of making income from this is slim and none even if you have all the info in the world. again I ask if there are tools out there to beat Vegas dont you guys think by now Vegas would have shut down? Vegas will never ever be decoded and they don't fear anyone including self claimed sharpees It all evens out. One week the public gets their ass handed and then the next week the sharps and round and round we go. JMHO
There is just so many ideas and ways to come up with a play. Yes one can be much better then others. But Thunder I believe is right on this idea. After all vegas or off shore just cant re-ajust lines based on forum watching or the hottest trends. Dam line would be moving every 15-20 minutes. They try to a-just on money coming in. I do believe if they know its sharp money they react differant then if it's Joe Blows money.
I do understand KC's worries that some time to much out in open is not the best. But not sure if it's a big hurt. It might for a week and then go back to normal. So much of this info now avaliable on sites. So it's open to the world. But the main thing is the last minute info or even info that few have from contacts or a few insiders. That you do not see floating around on the net. That info given away anyplace would be follish for someone to do. If they wish to put there plays up here for all to see and use good deal. But some private info should always stay thay way. GL to everyone and please folks. I did this reply for posititve reasons not to start a peeing match. And as always like to read what all members put up for us to see.
I do understand KC's worries that some time to much out in open is not the best. But not sure if it's a big hurt. It might for a week and then go back to normal. So much of this info now avaliable on sites. So it's open to the world. But the main thing is the last minute info or even info that few have from contacts or a few insiders. That you do not see floating around on the net. That info given away anyplace would be follish for someone to do. If they wish to put there plays up here for all to see and use good deal. But some private info should always stay thay way. GL to everyone and please folks. I did this reply for posititve reasons not to start a peeing match. And as always like to read what all members put up for us to see.
