TLN is not what stopped Texas from going to PAC 10. Simply isn't true. TLN was an issue but the move was all but sealed until State of Texas politics came into play - that's all it was.
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Fact is that neither of you guys really know what happened or will happen. You can guess like the rest of us. Unless you are a member of one of the school's board you can act like you are in the know, but you are really just a fan like everyone else.
So you know, both guys have displayed more internal knowledge of their respective programs than most others around here.
Yes, I know they like to "report" on things, but I also remember times where they have been wrong. Just saying that they hear rumors just like everyone else. Sometimes they are true, sometimes they aren't.
I've heard the Aggies are gone. I thought it wasn't suppose to happen until the 22nd of this month but at this point I have no clue.
Sun, Tech has been in talks with the Pac 16. One of the sticking points is that Tech be a Tier 1 University and by the time they would join the Pac they either would have it or be very close.
Sun, Tech has been in talks with the Pac 16. One of the sticking points is that Tech be a Tier 1 University and by the time they would join the Pac they either would have it or be very close.
Tex AM to SEC - I understand it is a done deal.
Flead from another Board:
Just heard a live interview with Chip Brown of orangebloods.com.
Summation:
-He's hearing that it's more and more likely that aTm will be making the jump, and very soon. aTm is fed up w/ Texas and is disillusioned with ESPN's behavior throughout the Longhorn Network development. They asked him to put a % on it, and he said definitely greater than 50%.
-Said Texas was very pissed, and still is, about aTm's filibuster of the Big 12 dissolution and potential jumps of several member institutions to the PAC-12, and that has affected their dealings w/ aTm since.
-Said Texas has threatened to never play aTm again, in any sport, and only tv contractual obligations may save the rivalry at this point, should they leave for the SEC.
-Says the Longhorn Network seemed like a good idea in theory, but ESPN has done major damage by trying to strong-arm some other Big 12 schools into having games vs. Texas exclusively televised on the Longhorn network. Named Texas Tech specifically. Said other schools have also been very vocal about their displeasure with the situation.
-Said ESPN didn't help themselves by having the Longhorn Network seated with the national media at Big 12 media days, rather than with the regional reporters.
-Denied:
-that this is all a grand scheme to eventually have Texas go independent with their own ESPN-based t.v. deal.
-that Texas is waiting for someone else (aTm) to pull the trigger to start a domino effect and to avoid "having the blood on their hands" of Big 12 collapse and creating an even worse PR situation for Texas than this has already become.
(I personally call bullshit on this; seems like this is precisely Texas' strategy)
--Said the date he keeps hearing to watch out for is Monday. August 22nd, which, coincidentally, is the date the NCAA will rule on the propriety of allowing the Longhorn Network to televise high school games. Said he's been hearing that is the date the aTm Board of Regents will vote on whether to leave, and that all signs indicate that they are already strongly leaning that way.
-Also said, and this is another one I'm not so sure about, that he's heard there is a "wink-wink" agreement already between the aTm regents and the SEC, and that should aTm vote to make the change and "apply" for SEC membership, the "application" will be immediately approved.
-When asked about imbalance of the SEC divisions and how it may get balanced out, he said the SEC would likely have 13 teams for one year, then add another to the East to make it 14. Hearing that the SEC intends to stop expansion there, and has no intention of ever going to 16. Said he's heard Clemson, Va. Tech, and FSU, with FSU being the name popping up the most in recent days.
Paraphrasing all of this, but this is pretty much exactly what he said, in a nutshell.
Flead from another Board:
Just heard a live interview with Chip Brown of orangebloods.com.
Summation:
-He's hearing that it's more and more likely that aTm will be making the jump, and very soon. aTm is fed up w/ Texas and is disillusioned with ESPN's behavior throughout the Longhorn Network development. They asked him to put a % on it, and he said definitely greater than 50%.
-Said Texas was very pissed, and still is, about aTm's filibuster of the Big 12 dissolution and potential jumps of several member institutions to the PAC-12, and that has affected their dealings w/ aTm since.
-Said Texas has threatened to never play aTm again, in any sport, and only tv contractual obligations may save the rivalry at this point, should they leave for the SEC.
-Says the Longhorn Network seemed like a good idea in theory, but ESPN has done major damage by trying to strong-arm some other Big 12 schools into having games vs. Texas exclusively televised on the Longhorn network. Named Texas Tech specifically. Said other schools have also been very vocal about their displeasure with the situation.
-Said ESPN didn't help themselves by having the Longhorn Network seated with the national media at Big 12 media days, rather than with the regional reporters.
-Denied:
-that this is all a grand scheme to eventually have Texas go independent with their own ESPN-based t.v. deal.
-that Texas is waiting for someone else (aTm) to pull the trigger to start a domino effect and to avoid "having the blood on their hands" of Big 12 collapse and creating an even worse PR situation for Texas than this has already become.
(I personally call bullshit on this; seems like this is precisely Texas' strategy)
--Said the date he keeps hearing to watch out for is Monday. August 22nd, which, coincidentally, is the date the NCAA will rule on the propriety of allowing the Longhorn Network to televise high school games. Said he's been hearing that is the date the aTm Board of Regents will vote on whether to leave, and that all signs indicate that they are already strongly leaning that way.
-Also said, and this is another one I'm not so sure about, that he's heard there is a "wink-wink" agreement already between the aTm regents and the SEC, and that should aTm vote to make the change and "apply" for SEC membership, the "application" will be immediately approved.
-When asked about imbalance of the SEC divisions and how it may get balanced out, he said the SEC would likely have 13 teams for one year, then add another to the East to make it 14. Hearing that the SEC intends to stop expansion there, and has no intention of ever going to 16. Said he's heard Clemson, Va. Tech, and FSU, with FSU being the name popping up the most in recent days.
Paraphrasing all of this, but this is pretty much exactly what he said, in a nutshell.
atm to the sec is definitely not a done deal. lots of rumors at this point. give us OU and let those yell leaders go somewhere else
If it's not a done deal, A&M will be the laughing stock of college football. Don't think they would let that happen.
"reports" are that OU is seeking invite from Pac 12 and if that happens the Big12 is obviously over. UT, Tech, OU and Okie State on their way to Pac 12. Should be done deal by October. As a life long Tech fan I guess I'm happy to hopefully have a home in a big conference but losing the games versus the Aggs really hurts. When I was in school there was no better road trip for a game then there was going to College Station.
If BYU doesn't accept our invitation then I would fully expect the Pac16 to happen. The Big 12 has to add a big team with a good market. I just don't see it happening.
If BYU doesn't accept our invitation then I would fully expect the Pac16 to happen. The Big 12 has to add a big team with a good market. I just don't see it happening.
Looks like Mizzou will be joing the Aggs in the SEC. I guess that's depends on Mizzou accepting the offer from the SEC but at this point I can't imagine they won't
Poon, it looks like the guy I followed got his info from the KC Star.
OU with the FIRST smart move for the Big12. OU holds the future in their hands. If they stay the conference will make it but if they decide they're going then it's over. Today they've said that if they stay then they want Beebe out as commish. IMO he's been horrible for the BIG 12 and allowed Texas to have everything they wanted which led to the loss of Colo, Neb and the Aggs.
OU with the FIRST smart move for the Big12. OU holds the future in their hands. If they stay the conference will make it but if they decide they're going then it's over. Today they've said that if they stay then they want Beebe out as commish. IMO he's been horrible for the BIG 12 and allowed Texas to have everything they wanted which led to the loss of Colo, Neb and the Aggs.
The fact that no one outside of the KCStar is reporting it fuels my suspicion. What is odd about that story is that they state the 'SEC has offerred but is willing to wait for the Big 12 to fold first'. Yeah, that sounds about right what a power conference would do in these situations. Extend an invitation and just wait around. As shown by the A&M proceedings, the SEC is calculated in their moves and wouldn't do that.
Beebe is as inept of a commish as you can find. That is a good move by OU. TCU appears hesitant on their jump to the Big East now with it crumbling. Big 12 could pick them up for stability of # of teams, but it won't grow their markets, though that may be an after-thought at this point. Next step for the Big 12 would be to act on taking up other Big East teams such as Cincy and Ville.
Beebe is as inept of a commish as you can find. That is a good move by OU. TCU appears hesitant on their jump to the Big East now with it crumbling. Big 12 could pick them up for stability of # of teams, but it won't grow their markets, though that may be an after-thought at this point. Next step for the Big 12 would be to act on taking up other Big East teams such as Cincy and Ville.
I think the only reason the story may be true but yet the SEC is silent is for the same reasons as the Agg situation. They don't want any lawsuits coming their way.(not that it would hurt them at all) A lot of SEC guys laughed when the presidents didn't vote to accept A&M but in all reality they had but needed to wait. I was told when the A&M story first came out a few weeks ago that Mizzou would like be in the mix because fo the market and it was not a threat in recruiting to any current SEC teams.
For some reason the Big12 has said over and over that they're not interested in TCU. I understand from a market point of view but sometimes a really good football program is just as important as a tv market. If OU stays and the Big12 remains then BYU will join. The problem I see is that they're going to need more teams or we'll be going through this again in a few years when the other big confernces potentially go to 16 teams. IMO they should have BYU, TCU and Houston then redo their tv contracts and try to attract two more big programs.
The good part of this is that if OU gets what they want then the conference as a whole will be a lot more attractive. Right now with Bebee and Texas running the show there isn't much of a reason for a big program to join.(Outside of BYU who would get to keep their tv network and someone like Notre Dame who could do the same)
Looks like the conference is staying alive, at least for another year. As reported, certain conference members have been outspoken as to changes that need to be made if the conference is to stay intact. I would love to be a fly on the wall in some of those meetings now that some of the members have decided to get a backbone and stand up to Texas. And once again Missouri has to go back with their tail between their legs.
