Has anyone watched this documentary about 9/11 or checked out the website. I watched it the other night and it seems to be at least feasible. I just don't know how, if our own government was behind 9/11, with the amount of people who would have to have knowledge that they could keep such a tight lid on it. You would think by now somebody would have blown the whistle. Any opinions?
Loose Change
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Good film.
Don't believe all of it, but many of the topics are good points and need to be addressed.
I don't think we know the real truth about 9/11.
Don't believe all of it, but many of the topics are good points and need to be addressed.
I don't think we know the real truth about 9/11.
SpursDynasty said:
Amen... 25% of it is probably bogus overly- enthusiastic conspiracy stuff, or politically motivated...
But the compelling aspect is that no real studies or investigations have taken place about 9/11... the 9/11 commision only dealt with crushing terrorism and disaster preparedness etc,. but not with exactly what scientifically happened.
I'd love for Loose Change to be all wrong, but seriously the Pentagon? WTC-7 collapsing? Flight 91? So many holes in the media reported/government approved version of events.
Fun/Scary stuff.
SpursDynasty said:
i dodn't think the american public knows the real truth about the majority of our goverments dealings for the last 25 years!
SpursDynasty said:
i don't think the american public knows the real truth about the majority of our goverments dealings for the last 25 years!
I was really not planning on spending an hour and twenty minutes watching some half-cocked home-made documentary, but I can't stop , honestly.
I am as big of a fan of conspiracy theories as you will find, and this amazes me. Where are the answers to these questions?
I am as big of a fan of conspiracy theories as you will find, and this amazes me. Where are the answers to these questions?
bump.
Those biuldings dont come down at freefall speeds unless there supposed to. DO YOUR OWN DUE DILLIGENCE AND GOOGLE..???
It dont happen that way unless PNAC says go,
Those biuldings dont come down at freefall speeds unless there supposed to. DO YOUR OWN DUE DILLIGENCE AND GOOGLE..???
It dont happen that way unless PNAC says go,
I'll just tell you this, flapper........Don't buy everything the U.S. Government spoon feeds you.
I certainly won't run out and buy a tin foil hat, but there has been a ton of fishy shit about 9/1/1 from Jump Street, and "no wreckage" at the crash sites is sure a huge one.
I certainly won't run out and buy a tin foil hat, but there has been a ton of fishy shit about 9/1/1 from Jump Street, and "no wreckage" at the crash sites is sure a huge one.
yyz said:
The governement - any government - is not honest and forthcoming all the time? Shocking!
To be honest, I could not watch the hole thing - it was entertaining - and would make a good movie, but so full of BS it was tough to sit there and spend over an hour on this. As for no wreckage, here's an answer to that urban myth...
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm
And, if the planes didn't hit the targets, what happened to all of the people who were actually boarded those flights that AM?
Then there was talk of cell phones not being able to be used - (I think, I kinda skipped through that part)? I've used mine on large charter planes at high altitude without a major problem. Why could they not use theirs?
The bottom line is that if you look hard enough for a conspiracy in ANYTHING, you will undoubtedly find one. Contradicitons, mis-statements, etc then toss in some so called "experts" saying that something could not happen because yada, yada and you have your self a nice little conspiracy.
Why no investigation? They already did one right after the attack and came up with the answers - and they were straight forward, made sense and had plenty of evidence to support it. They did not involve massive conspriacies involving governments, the military, airline companies, phone companies, private citizens, fake Bin Ladens, tens of thousands of people working together in complete secrecy to pull of a mass murder and then these thousands of people living right here in the US with famlies, etc have all somehow kept quite about this. Yeah, that sounds reasonible.
You can call the video BS, based on your perception of the United States government's version of the "truth". That's fine, but that's all it is.
Maybe someone can debunk the "facts" in the video as falsehoods, and we can all have a good laugh. Who can say?
Oh, and I'm glad you've been able to make cell calls from the sky. I fly a lot, and I've never had success picking up a signal.
Maybe someone can debunk the "facts" in the video as falsehoods, and we can all have a good laugh. Who can say?
Oh, and I'm glad you've been able to make cell calls from the sky. I fly a lot, and I've never had success picking up a signal.
To say the 9/11 commision report was reasonable is like saying the OJ SImpson case and verdict was reasonable.
I totally agree that it would be impossible for hundreds of people to be "in" on the events of the day if in fact it was a conspiracy. It would be nice however, if there was an explanation for the lack of debris in Penn. The photos of the crash seen show nothing. A plane does not simply disinigrate to nothing, there had to be some debris. There have been some recently released photos, (three I think), but they look suspicous. Also the crater seems to be too shallow for such an impact. It is also interesting that no one seems to care about all the put options that were bought just days before the attack. Why not investigate who profitted the most. And where did all that gold end up that was being stored in the lower levels of the WTC? Not all has been recovered. Why did WTC #7 collapse? Are we to believe it came crashing down due to fire? Why are there reports of people hearing other "bombs" going off in the WTC's? Why were all the windows on the main floor blown outward, as if a bomb had gone off on the main floor. Why didn't Bush excuse himself from the elementary school in Florida when he was told the 2nd plane had struck the WTC and we were "under attack"? I'm not sure but I believe he held an impromptu press conference at the school. Wasn't he a target that day? What about the kids in the school, were they in harms way if he was a target? Why did the school stay in session for the remainder of the day if Bush was a target and it was known he was there? Why would a terrorist group go through all the necessary planning for 9/11 and make Bush/the white house a target, and not know he was in Florida that day and not actually at the white house? Why fly the plane into the recently re-inforced side section of the Pentagon and not into the center? I'm no pilot but I would think it would be harder to hit the side of the pentagon and not just fly at an angle into it. Maybe not a conspiracy with hundreds in the "know", but interesting questions that I would like to see answered.
Some people are desperate to see conspiracy in everything. Anyone with an active imagination and enough time can come up with one. Its fun to do, I liked the one where the Worldwide Zionist Conspiracy with the help of the Israeli Air Force was behind it all, personally. But when you return to a much more boring reality and say their ideas are amazingly implausible, they will inevitably come to the conclusion that you are naive to "how things really work" or a part of it.
As far as cell phones working, mine worked coming and going from the New Orleans area in '03 for what thats worth - made a couple calls (it was a charter which is why I could make the calls without getting in trouble). It didn't work when we were in the middle of nowhere. I would assume the Northeast of the US has pretty good cell phone reception.
As far as cell phones working, mine worked coming and going from the New Orleans area in '03 for what thats worth - made a couple calls (it was a charter which is why I could make the calls without getting in trouble). It didn't work when we were in the middle of nowhere. I would assume the Northeast of the US has pretty good cell phone reception.
