lotto ticket a wasted dollar

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Odds are, lotto ticket a wasted dollar

By Gregory Karp
Allentown Morning Call


American life presents myriad ways to spend money unwisely, but perhaps the dumbest is buying lottery tickets as some kind of investment plan.

But many of the people who bought tickets for those lotteries might not have known just how silly their purchase was.

A 1999 survey showed many Americans with low and moderate incomes believed they had a better chance of building a $500,000 nest egg for retirement by playing the lottery than by saving and investing, according to the survey co-sponsored by the Consumer Federation of America.

Lotteries have been called, ungraciously, a tax on the stupid. Why? Because you're twice as likely to drop dead while reading this newspaper column than you are to win a Powerball jackpot. You're five times more likely to die in an automobile crash driving to the the store to buy a lottery ticket than to win the jackpot.

Not to be a buzz kill to all those lottery players, but it's a mathematical fact. The chance of winning the top prize in a Powerball lottery is 1 in 146 million. The chances of winning the Mega Millions last month was 1 in 175 million.

Meanwhile, the chance of dying by snake bite this year is significantly better, 1 in 96 million, according to the U.S. National Safety Council.

You're more likely to become president of the United States. You're more likely to become a saint, at least according to the odds.

"Basically, if you're talking about the jackpot, you put down your dollar and you never see anything back," said Douglas Arnold, director for the Institute for Mathematics and its Applications at the University of Minnesota. "That's what the lottery is all about, that captures it almost perfectly."

Arnold said he does not play the lottery, and he knows no mathematicians who do, perhaps because they can get their heads around the ridiculous odds better than the average American.

"It is a bit like riding a roller coaster rather than buying a car: Fine if that's your idea of fun, but not a good way to get around," he said.

Rather than a tax on the stupid, lotteries are more accurately a tax on the hopeless. Only someone at rock bottom with no prospects would resort to such lousy odds for anything more than fun and whimsy.

If somehow you think spending money on lottery tickets is a smart investment, here are some considerations.

-- Feel the odds

Take an example of a relatively small lottery, where you have a 1 in 14 million chance of winning, vastly better odds than Powerball or Mega Millions. The odds of winning the small lottery is the same as plunking down a dollar and betting you can repeatedly flip a coin and have it come up heads 24 times in a row, according to calculations by Fred Hoppe, professor of mathematics and statistics at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario.

Take a coin out of your pocket and start flipping to get a sense of how unlikely that is. Don't forget to plunk a dollar on the table each time.

-- One dumber thing

The only worse investment than playing the lottery is paying for advice on which numbers to pick when you play the lottery. For example, lottery-picking service LotteryVault.com charges about $35 for a year's membership. This pitch is, essentially, you pay them to provide you with numbers that are more likely to win a lottery that uses randomly drawn numbers. Think about that for a minute.

Fact is, no number in a fair lottery is better, or more lucky, than another. -- What if I win?

"Somebody has to win. It might as well be me," the argument goes. The photos and news reports of the beaming lottery winners make it so seemingly tangible.

So what if you do win the lottery? The National Endowment for Financial Education estimated 70 percent of people who receive such windfalls blow through it in just a few years.

-- Guaranteed winnings

What if you could almost guarantee a vast sum of money? Instead of buying $1 lottery tickets, put $1 a day into a growth mutual fund earning 12 percent per year, the historical average return. If you did that for a newborn girl, she would be a millionaire by age 49. A 25-year-old investing $5 a day would amass about $1.5 million by retirement at age 65, assuming the same rate of return.

-- For amusement only

What about playing the lottery for fun? Paying $1 for the entertainment of dreaming about fantastic riches for several days is actually pretty cheap recreation and provides excellent value. Just don't count on winning.
 

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Count me as one of the ones paying the "stupid tax". I dont play the powerball until it gets real high and it is going to get hit only because so many tickets are being sold. I know my odds are not any better but I feel that if its going to go I may as well have my $1.00 chance in it.

The powerball officials had me in mind when they added another powerball number and I believe 2 regular numbers to the game. Less jockpots on the low end. They hit more on the high end because of the rush on buying tickets when the jackpot gets real high.

People get in trouble when they overspend on the tickets. My $1.00 buy has just as much chance of winning as someone who buys $100 worth.

My wifes aunt is a fanatic (see crazy) about the lottery. She buys in for all dailey picks, megabucks, and powerball draws. She actually thinks she will hit the big one one day.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Talks about that crap all the time. What didnt help her was she hit 9k 2 months ago playing and now thinks its only a matter of time. What she dosent talk about though is that it cost her alot more in tickets over the years than 9k.
 

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There is a show on TV (I think Discovery or something like that) where they track down past lotto winners. They show success and failures from winning the lottery. The interesting part about it is that most of the people that were 'down on their luck' and won have just as many problems, just different ones (drugs, infedility, bad investments, broke again). Meanwhile, the 'middle class' people that had decent jobs and upstanding citizens, seem to do fairly well after they win.

I am in a lotto club at work... more of a 'everyone is in it, so I might as well be too', but like bubba, whenever it gets in the hundreds of millions, I will usually play a couple of tickets. I always play my 'lucky numbers' you know... the ones that never come in :)
 

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But feckhead Frist doesn't think this contributes to the degradation of our moral and family values.

FECK YOU FRIST!
 

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I have a friend of 20 years and he has something he likes to say, "Ask the four people I know that hit the lottery if they have ever been hit by lightening!" I also know one of those four people he was referring to.

I would imagine many here blow more money gambling on poker and sports than they can fiscally handle. Or blow it on Starbucks, or new cars, or diick hardening pills, or liquor.

I just think it's another entertainment/vice option for many others.

I play when I'm having a good day. Maybe once/twice a month for $5 quick pick. I gamble quite a bit and for some decent money so the lottery gives me no type of rush. It's more of a decision to get it while the getting's good, when I'm having a good day. Just making sure I'm covering all my possible options when I'm feeling lucky.

6 months ago I missed millions by one ball (enter joke here) and ended up getting a little over $1100.

My GF's father has been burning money on all the different local lottery crap every day for years. He has his own "system". He's just an old Puerto Rican with one arm getting his fix and everybody leaves him to his own devices. I don't even think he can drink anymore (says he doesn't like the taste) and he's starting to see things. The lottery and his grandchildren are really all he has left.
 

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Lottery is a sirius addiction that undermines the family, dashes dreams and frays the fabric of society.
 

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one more thing....

if it was eliminated numbers rackets that exists now would grow like weeds on my lawn

I think fat people create more of a menace to society than the lotto
 
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