Line opened at -2 @ Olympic, now at -2.5. I heard that Pittino told Stone to expect to play. Any thoughts on this game :shrug: I wanna hit it now assuming the line jumps up.
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HOW DID YOU FIND OUT THAT MARVIN IS OK TO PLAY? Komara: "I received a phone call from a certain person who told me he was going to play...and I'd rather not say who it was. There was an existing relationship, and that's the right thing. Marvin Stone hasn't done ANYTHING wrong in this. The investigation was totally a witch hunt towards me."
Louisville leads series 28-19. The Cardinals are 13-0 against the Blue Demons in Conference USA games. The Cardinals won the last meeting, 71-43 on January 22 at Freedom Hall. DePaul's last win over Louisville came on Tom Kleinschmidt's four-point play with under 10 seconds remaining on February 25, 1995 at the Allstate Arena.
HOW DID YOU FIND OUT THAT MARVIN IS OK TO PLAY? Komara: "I received a phone call from a certain person who told me he was going to play...and I'd rather not say who it was. There was an existing relationship, and that's the right thing. Marvin Stone hasn't done ANYTHING wrong in this. The investigation was totally a witch hunt towards me."
Louisville leads series 28-19. The Cardinals are 13-0 against the Blue Demons in Conference USA games. The Cardinals won the last meeting, 71-43 on January 22 at Freedom Hall. DePaul's last win over Louisville came on Tom Kleinschmidt's four-point play with under 10 seconds remaining on February 25, 1995 at the Allstate Arena.
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fletcher said:i don't think a few points will matter i think cards win 14-16 points
110% agree. I think that had this line been made had Vegas known Stone was playing it would've been in the 6-8 point range. Granted the Ville has been weak lately but come on, they still have a solid as hell squad and Depaul is $hit, no homecourt advantage, just students who wanna see a good team play...Louisville.
Stone cleared to play by NCAA
By CHRIS DUNCAN, AP Sports Writer
March 4, 2003
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) -- Louisville center Marvin Stone has been cleared to play by the NCAA, athletics director Tom Jurich said Tuesday night.
Louisville officials had been awaiting word for a week on whether the team's 6-foot-10 senior would lose his amateur status for accepting improper benefits from Mark Komara, his former AAU coach.
The school benched Stone for a game with East Carolina last Saturday while the NCAA continued its inquiry. Stone will return to action Wednesday night, when No. 15 Louisville (20-5, 10-4 Conference USA) plays at DePaul.
``Based on what I've been told, he will be on the floor,'' said his attorney, Donald Jackson said. ``It's as 100 percent as these things can be. We're thrilled.''
Jackson said that the NCAA found that Stone's relationship with Komara was established before Stone began earning recognition for his basketball ability.
The NCAA allows established family friends to provide benefits for student-athletes as long as the relationship began before the athlete gained status for his skills and did not develop as a result of the athlete's increased notoriety.
Jurich said the NCAA told the school it concluded Stone did nothing wrong.
``We received correspondence from the NCAA which confirmed that based on all the available information, there was a pre-existing relationship between the Stone family and Mark Komara and no violation has occurred,'' Jurich said. ``The university continues to look at all sides of this, but based upon all information to date, there is no violation of amateurism rules and Marvin is cleared to play.''
Both the NCAA and Louisville were investigating Stone's relationship with Komara, a Huntsville, Ala., businessman.
Jackson said it dates to the early 1980s, when Komara met Stone's father through a softball league. Stone's father later worked for Komara.
The elder Stone died in January 1999, shortly after his son began playing at Kentucky.
Louisville coach Rick Pitino said Tuesday he didn't see anything improper about the Stone-Komara relationship, although he admitted last week he hardly knew Komara.
``Ten years from now, Mark Komara will be very close to Marvin Stone, regardless of whether he's playing a day in the NBA,'' Pitino said. ``In the case of Marvin Stone and Mark Komara, he has a genuine relationship that is very sincere. They'll be friends for a long time after this.''
Pitino said Tuesday afternoon he had not talked to Stone at length about his situation.
``I don't know what to tell him,'' Pitino said. ``I'm telling him, 'You're going to probably play against DePaul, so be ready.' I tell him to keep his head up. But I don't know what's going to happen.''
The Cardinals were already playing without leading rebounder Ellis Myles, who sustained a season-ending knee injury against Marquette last Thursday.
Despite the NCAA inquiry, Stone had continued to practice with the team. But anticipating Stone's absence for the rest of the season, Pitino had started revamping the team's style to accentuate its perimeter depth and quickness.
Now, Pitino has to alter the game plan once again.
``We're delighted to have Marvin back on this team,'' Pitino said Tuesday night. ``Now, I can continue to work on my 37th different offensive set in the last 48 hours.''
Pitino repeatedly expressed frustration with the timing of the NCAA's inquiry. Many of their questions stemmed from a chapter about Stone in the book ``Sole Influence: Basketball, Corporate Greed and the Corruption of America's Youth,'' published in 2000.
Pitino said he learned that the NCAA approached Stone after getting ``new information'' from an informant he wouldn't name.
``Why it didn't happen four years ago is the question they have to answer,'' Pitino said. ``They're going to say, 'New information.' I don't believe that.''
Stone played for Kentucky from 1998 to 2001. He left Kentucky in December 2001, then transferred to Louisville in January 2002.
The NCAA never contacted Kentucky about Stone. Pitino said he didn't think the NCAA was targeting Louisville, either.
``If I felt that way at all, I would resign,'' he said. ``I would not want to be a part of an organization that's like that. I definitely don't think that's the case.''
The Cardinals finish the regular season against Charlotte on Saturday. Louisville hosts the Conference USA tournament, beginning March 12.
By CHRIS DUNCAN, AP Sports Writer
March 4, 2003
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) -- Louisville center Marvin Stone has been cleared to play by the NCAA, athletics director Tom Jurich said Tuesday night.
Louisville officials had been awaiting word for a week on whether the team's 6-foot-10 senior would lose his amateur status for accepting improper benefits from Mark Komara, his former AAU coach.
The school benched Stone for a game with East Carolina last Saturday while the NCAA continued its inquiry. Stone will return to action Wednesday night, when No. 15 Louisville (20-5, 10-4 Conference USA) plays at DePaul.
``Based on what I've been told, he will be on the floor,'' said his attorney, Donald Jackson said. ``It's as 100 percent as these things can be. We're thrilled.''
Jackson said that the NCAA found that Stone's relationship with Komara was established before Stone began earning recognition for his basketball ability.
The NCAA allows established family friends to provide benefits for student-athletes as long as the relationship began before the athlete gained status for his skills and did not develop as a result of the athlete's increased notoriety.
Jurich said the NCAA told the school it concluded Stone did nothing wrong.
``We received correspondence from the NCAA which confirmed that based on all the available information, there was a pre-existing relationship between the Stone family and Mark Komara and no violation has occurred,'' Jurich said. ``The university continues to look at all sides of this, but based upon all information to date, there is no violation of amateurism rules and Marvin is cleared to play.''
Both the NCAA and Louisville were investigating Stone's relationship with Komara, a Huntsville, Ala., businessman.
Jackson said it dates to the early 1980s, when Komara met Stone's father through a softball league. Stone's father later worked for Komara.
The elder Stone died in January 1999, shortly after his son began playing at Kentucky.
Louisville coach Rick Pitino said Tuesday he didn't see anything improper about the Stone-Komara relationship, although he admitted last week he hardly knew Komara.
``Ten years from now, Mark Komara will be very close to Marvin Stone, regardless of whether he's playing a day in the NBA,'' Pitino said. ``In the case of Marvin Stone and Mark Komara, he has a genuine relationship that is very sincere. They'll be friends for a long time after this.''
Pitino said Tuesday afternoon he had not talked to Stone at length about his situation.
``I don't know what to tell him,'' Pitino said. ``I'm telling him, 'You're going to probably play against DePaul, so be ready.' I tell him to keep his head up. But I don't know what's going to happen.''
The Cardinals were already playing without leading rebounder Ellis Myles, who sustained a season-ending knee injury against Marquette last Thursday.
Despite the NCAA inquiry, Stone had continued to practice with the team. But anticipating Stone's absence for the rest of the season, Pitino had started revamping the team's style to accentuate its perimeter depth and quickness.
Now, Pitino has to alter the game plan once again.
``We're delighted to have Marvin back on this team,'' Pitino said Tuesday night. ``Now, I can continue to work on my 37th different offensive set in the last 48 hours.''
Pitino repeatedly expressed frustration with the timing of the NCAA's inquiry. Many of their questions stemmed from a chapter about Stone in the book ``Sole Influence: Basketball, Corporate Greed and the Corruption of America's Youth,'' published in 2000.
Pitino said he learned that the NCAA approached Stone after getting ``new information'' from an informant he wouldn't name.
``Why it didn't happen four years ago is the question they have to answer,'' Pitino said. ``They're going to say, 'New information.' I don't believe that.''
Stone played for Kentucky from 1998 to 2001. He left Kentucky in December 2001, then transferred to Louisville in January 2002.
The NCAA never contacted Kentucky about Stone. Pitino said he didn't think the NCAA was targeting Louisville, either.
``If I felt that way at all, I would resign,'' he said. ``I would not want to be a part of an organization that's like that. I definitely don't think that's the case.''
The Cardinals finish the regular season against Charlotte on Saturday. Louisville hosts the Conference USA tournament, beginning March 12.
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now at 4 even 5 at some places
seems alot of members are taking Depaul I just can't see it
what am I missing:shrug:
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now at 4 even 5 at some places
seems alot of members are taking Depaul I just can't see it
what am I missing:shrug:
I agree, this line was set so low to start since Vegas was unsure on Stone's status. Now that he's playing line has jumped from 2 to 4.5 (Olympic) :scared Minus Myles, this is the same team that people were picking to win the hole thing 2 weeks ago. Granted they have slipped lately but come on 2-4.5 points at Depaul? A team that hasn't proved $hit all year. I don't think this is a trap what so ever and I am SHOCKED people are on Depaul here. This is in my eyes either a big play on the Ville or a no play.
L-VILLE IS 1-2 ATS IN THEIR LAST THREE ROAD GAMES!
VS. ST LOUIS LOSS
VS. MARQUETTE WIN
VS. CINCY FREAKIN GOT HAMMERED
I FEEL LINE IS LOW TO SUCK IN ALL THAT L-VILLE MONEY, JUST LOOK AT THEIR LAST 5 GAMES AND THEY'VE STRUGGLED BIG TYME. IT'S EITHER DEPAUL AND THE PTS OR A FADE FOR ME!
VS. ST LOUIS LOSS
VS. MARQUETTE WIN
VS. CINCY FREAKIN GOT HAMMERED
I FEEL LINE IS LOW TO SUCK IN ALL THAT L-VILLE MONEY, JUST LOOK AT THEIR LAST 5 GAMES AND THEY'VE STRUGGLED BIG TYME. IT'S EITHER DEPAUL AND THE PTS OR A FADE FOR ME!
mm...
Depaul last 3 at home is 1-2 too
Vs St Louis LOSS (horrible game, they left the game go out of their hands)
Vs Marquette LOSS (easy win of marquette)
Vs Charlotte WIN
so, DEpaul is not a good team and is not playing well, they have a 3 game losing straight SU and ATS.
Depaul last 3 at home is 1-2 too
Vs St Louis LOSS (horrible game, they left the game go out of their hands)
Vs Marquette LOSS (easy win of marquette)
Vs Charlotte WIN
so, DEpaul is not a good team and is not playing well, they have a 3 game losing straight SU and ATS.
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, SOMEBODY'S GONNA SNAP OUT OF THERE FUNK TONIGHT!
I'LL WAIT TO SEE HOW FAR THE LINE MOVES BEFORE I PULL THE TRIGGA OR PASS ON THIS GAME. FAR TO MANY OTHER GAMES TO BE PLAYED TONIGHT. NO NEED TO SWEAT THIS ONE!
GL TO ALL,
I'LL WAIT TO SEE HOW FAR THE LINE MOVES BEFORE I PULL THE TRIGGA OR PASS ON THIS GAME. FAR TO MANY OTHER GAMES TO BE PLAYED TONIGHT. NO NEED TO SWEAT THIS ONE!
GL TO ALL,
DIMEDADDY said:L-VILLE IS 1-2 ATS IN THEIR LAST THREE ROAD GAMES!
VS. ST LOUIS LOSS
VS. MARQUETTE WIN
VS. CINCY FREAKIN GOT HAMMERED
I FEEL LINE IS LOW TO SUCK IN ALL THAT L-VILLE MONEY, JUST LOOK AT THEIR LAST 5 GAMES AND THEY'VE STRUGGLED BIG TYME. IT'S EITHER DEPAUL AND THE PTS OR A FADE FOR ME!
True true, however not 100% sure on this but did Stone play in those 3 games? Plus the team had to adjust and step up w/ Myles being out. I think they are well prepared tonite, and look to get back to old ways!
GL STSTRL, MORE AND MORE I LOOK AT THIS GAME IT SAYS FADE ME!!
RIGHT NOW I'M 90% FADE AND 10% DEPUAL!
GL TO YA!
DIME
RIGHT NOW I'M 90% FADE AND 10% DEPUAL!
GL TO YA!
DIME
DEPAUL IN A NAIL BITER, JUST WASN'T FEELIN L-VILLE IN THIS ONE HERE. LIKE I SAID THEY'VE GOT SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS AND THEY'LL NEED TO IMPROVE IF THEY WANNA GO FAR IN THE TOURNEY:nono:
DIME
DIME
Good call dimedaddy. I didn't see this game as a gift but definetly thought Louisville would win. Nice call by you.
