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[ND2002HORNS]

ND2002HORNS

I will be in New Orleans Jan.5-7th if USC is playing. Flight and hotel already booked and I have until Dec. 6th to cancel.

FIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!

Scott - Have fun getting a hotel for Jan.3/4th unless you are just going to New Orleans for sightseeing Jan.5-7th. You see I sure hope you did not book a plane ticket for those dates as the Sugar Bowl is Jan.4 and the dates you told us all that you are going is after the Sugar Bowl!:shrug:

HORNS

 

[Scott4USC]

LSU has not played a tough SOS up to this point. I watched LSU play Georgia @ LSU, and Georgia was clearly better than LSU. UGA beat UGA. LSU did lose to a good FL team. You might laugh, but Florida vs CAL would be a good game. CAL would have prob. beaten FL earlier in the year and FL prob. would beat CAL later in the year. Just my guess. CAL is a VERY WELL coached team. Don't give me the 5 loss crap.

Back to LSU. LSU has not impressed me enough for me to even consider them in USC's league. If LSU wins the rest of their games soundly, then i will give LSU the respect they deserve. Right now, i think USC would beat LSU soundly. Now if I am wrong, and LSU wins out the rest of their games, then i prob. will change my mind about USC beating LSU soundly. Remember, i am going on what i have seen (and i have ESPN gameplan) so i am judging the teams as of today. LSU wins the rest of their games, then i will say USC vs LSU would be good game and USC may not beat them so soundly. This discussion will be interesting to have in the next 3 weeks because a lot of different things can play out.

HELLO, i am one of those majority fans who want a playoff system. USC would have won the NC last year if there was a playoff system. I am in favor of it.

I would like an 8-team playoff system.
Pac 10, ACC, Big 10, Big 12, SEC all conference champions get guaranteed playoff spot. Big East is not a power conference next year IMO. Then the last 3 remaining spots, let the BCS select the last 3 spots. So you could get 2 teams from one conference or a team from smaller conference who runs table can get in. This also will make teams schedule tough OOC opponents to give chance to sneak into playoffs with last 3 spots remaning. Play a weak OOC and not win your conference, your loss. That is what i would do.

FIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Scott4USC]

ND2002HORNS

Thanks for correcting me. I made mistake, i am arriving on Jan. 4th and leaving Jan. 6th. I typed wrong dates. I arrive in New Orleans Sunday at 3pm. I will be canceling my trip if USC is not in Sugar Bowl, but i have only until Dec. 6th to cancel. Hopefully i will hve a good idea on how things shape up for USC. I will be in ROSE BOWL (which is the better bowl anyways) if USC is not in SUGAR BOWL. Unless USC loses, then USC goes to a real crap bowl.

What time do you think the game will be? I figure it will be 9pm eastern so 8pm time in New Orleans. What you think?

 

[ND2002HORNS]

Lets see how USC does against a common opponent this week as they play Arizona and LSU did earlier in the year.
I remember being at the game and how Saban yanked his starters before the end of the 1st half. It was 45-0 at the half and there was one point late in the 1st half when a DE for LSU(can't remember his name but could check the gametape) taunted a Wildcats player after another fumble. When this player came off the field he got reemed out so bad and never saw the field again. BCS factors in commom opponents and the fact both USC and LSU played Arizona on the road makes it easier for them to do, so I think this will help LSU for sure!

HORNS

 

[Mr Hockey]

You might not have been impressed but the facts don't lie. USC has played very few teams of substance. The more losses Auburn piles up the more meaningless that win becomes. The only high quality team you beat so far is Washington State & that might come into question since this is the same Cougars team that lost to a bad Notre Dame team.


LSU being in the SEC will help as it is the best conference from top to bottom & getting wins over some of these quality teams will help especially since a good # of them are ranked.


If LSU wins out & doesn't get in, it will be disgusting.

 

[ND2002HORNS]

That is cool Scott. I think the game will be 8pm eastern time.

HORNS

 

[mademan]

BobbyBlueChip
Voters want a USC vs OU matchup.
Majority of the fans across the nation want a USC vs OU matchup.
USC and OU are 2 teams with a lot more tradition than LSU. Its a better matchup.
LSU will not pass USC in the polls.
FIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!

I wanted to stay outta of this thread, but like it or not...I got something to say to this quote.

Scott, first off, you got a solid program there in SoCal and I truly believe that they will be Oklahomas opponent in the Sugar Bowl, but for different reasons than you.

#1. LSU has a tough schedule left and they won't run the table. Plain and simple. (If they should prove me wrong, then hands down...they go no matter what everyone else says.)

#2. Ohio State has the meat of the big ten left to deal with. They got by MSU (pretty easily) but with Purdue and Michigan left to deal with, they'll lose at least 1 of those. (I think they lose em both, but being a Michigan fan, I hope they can take care of Purdue so Michigan can win the title outright.)

I, for one am not one those "fans" that want to see OK vs USC because of "tradition" or because of "a better matchup". I'm one of those fans that like to root for the "underdog" or root for someone who no one expected to be in the title game. (LSU)

It's just like a coupla years ago (3 or 4) when FSU was a heavy favorite over Oklahoma (I think 12 or 14 points) and Oklahoma beat them outright, holding them basically scoreless, except for a safety.

I think most fans across the nation would be more apt to see a big upset by LSU than they would by USC simply because no one outside of Louisiana expects them to be there.

Regardless, good luck the rest of the year. I have to become a UCLA fan because to me, that's the only chance of USC getting beat again, which could give Michigan a crack at Oklahoma. (I know...it'll never happen but I can cross my fingers...right?)

 

[Scott4USC]

Mr Hockey

BCS just came out.

USC SOS #16
LSU SOS #65

Guess USC schedule OOC and PAC 10 is not too shabby. Now USC and LSU each have 3 games remaining, and i agree LSU has the tougher games remaining. UCLA and Oregon St. are not pushovers though Arizona is. Washington St. is #10 in BCS, and if they win out (play ASU and UW), will give USC bonus pts. If WSU gets to #5 in BCS, USC "cannot" be pass to #2. GOO COUGS!

Ohio St. also has to make up a full point, and USC plays 3 more games vs OSU 2 more games. Things will get very interesting.


ND2002HORNS
Hard to compare USC vs ARizona and LSU vs Arizona. Arizona was much much worse earlier in the year vs now. They just upset UW last week. Plus Pete Carroll does not run up the score. LSU pulled players (thats great) but I also them passing the ball when up by ton pts. USC does not do that. Carroll could put 70pts up like Stoops, but chooses not too. Win with class and not embarrass your opponent.

 

[The Big Tease]

I was really surprised to see LSU so far down from Ohio State in the rankings......This whole thing is fuked up. I think LSU and Ohio State are in the same boat. They finish with extremely tough schedules and play in tougher conferences than USC. I dont understand why the big difference from LSu to Ohio State. Not that I am complaining...well...I guess I am. The system really sucks, and a 4 team playoff between the 4 schools would be the ONLY fair way to determine it. But this may all be worthless talk anyways.....LSU has 3 tough games to go and Ohio State has 2 tough ones.....This dumbass BCS always works itself out in the end and more than likely both will lose and USC will go to the game.

 

[Scott4USC]

The Big Tease

LSU deserves to be low because of their weak schedule. (will change after few weeks). OSU is far back because they are ranked behind LSU in polls. If LSU loses, and OSU takes #3, look for OSU to pass USC in BCS. It will be very tight though, especially if WSU keeps moving up in the BCS.

Funny thing is Ohio St. beating Purdue and Michigan hurts OSU and helps USC. Moves WSU up in BCS (gives USC pts), and knocks out both teams from top 10 BCS and not give OSU quality win opponent.

FIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mr Hockey]

Mr Hockey

BCS just came out.

USC SOS #16
LSU SOS #65

Guess USC schedule OOC and PAC 10 is not too shabby. Now USC and LSU each have 3 games remaining, and i agree LSU has the tougher games remaining. UCLA and Oregon St. are not pushovers though Arizona is. Washington St. is #10 in BCS, and if they win out (play ASU and UW), will give USC bonus pts. If WSU gets to #5 in BCS, USC "cannot" be pass to #2. GOO COUGS!

Ohio St. also has to make up a full point, and USC plays 3 more games vs OSU 2 more games. Things will get very interesting.


ND2002HORNS
Hard to compare USC vs ARizona and LSU vs Arizona. Arizona was much much worse earlier in the year vs now. They just upset UW last week. Plus Pete Carroll does not run up the score. LSU pulled players (thats great) but I also them passing the ball when up by ton pts. USC does not do that. Carroll could put 70pts up like Stoops, but chooses not too. Win with class and not embarrass your opponent.

Yeah & your point is exactly? Those #'s are based on what their schedule has been already. Those #'s will change by the end of the season if LSU wins out.


They have:

Alabama (5)

Mississippi (51)

Arkansas (4)

compared to

Arizona (12)

UCLA (21)

Oregon State (76)

for USC.



What a joke of remaining games for USC while LSU faces two teams in the top 5 in regards to SOS. If they win out then they will have a conference championship match against either:

Florida (24)

Georgia (17)

Tennessee (6)


All 3 of these teams are ranked in the BCS including 2 in the top 10.


USC would get passed if LSU runs the table.

 

[Scott4USC]

Like i said, i am basing on what all the teams have done to this point. I said LSU has not impressed me. Next few weeks is the time for LSU to impress. Get it? I do not anoint a team who has played a SOS of #65 and who squeeked out a victory against UGA the #2 team in the nation.

I don't think LSU would beat out USC for BCS especially if WSU runs the table. But i could def. be wrong. Ohio St. is the only team that really scares me yet they are the team that will most likely lose.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Squeaking out a victory against Georgia isn't impressive but beating up average & below average teams, & losing to a 5 loss average team is? Yeah ok

 

[Scott4USC]

Georgia had LSU beat. Georgia beat Georgia and the game was at LSU. LSU was not impressive at all.

 

[ND2002HORNS]

Trojans left Carson Palmer right until the end against ND last year and were throwing the ball up 30pts with a few minutes left so don't give that bullshit Scott that they always win with the class, they don't. It is in a book for all to see as well.

HORNS

 

[Mr Hockey]

Georgia had LSU beat. Georgia beat Georgia and the game was at LSU. LSU was not impressive at all.

USC lost to CAL for christ sake lol

 

[Scott4USC]

ND2002HORNS

I disagree with you. #5 USC was playing #12 ND in the biggest rivalry in the country. USC was leading 17-13 at halftime. The TD pass you were saying Palmer threw in the 4th quarter happened with over 7min. left in the 4q. FAR FROM RUNNING UP THE SCORE. Before that TD pass, the score was 37-13 and with over 7min. left in game against your rival, @ home in front of 92,000 fans is not running up the score. It also was a 3rd down pass play too! Also BCS gives credit to victory up to 24pts i think. So what if ND got a meaningless TD at end of game against scrubs and takes away the BCS margin of victory. That TD pass protected that lead. AN argument you "could" use for the importantance of that TD pass.

 

[djchad]

Also BCS gives credit to victory up to 24pts i think.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Scott4USC]

I thought the BCS wanted to eliminate margin of victory so they stopped counting it at 24pts to prevent BLOWOUTS. SO any win over 24pts counts the same as a 24pt victory. I def. could be wrong on this. Maybe they completely took out margin of victory. I do know they did something to margin of victory.

djchad

Very productive and informative post. In the future if you see a mistake, maybe you should try correcting it instead of "laughing" at it. Make yourself usefull.

 

[djchad]

They took margin of victory out of the BCS in summer of 2002. Two of the computer rankings used in the BCS dropped out because they refused to remove the margin of victory component.


It is not my job to correct your mistakes. If you are going to be a blatant homer, at least be an informed one :lol: