LSU should be 2

[Mr Hockey]

so because the spurs lost games last year does that mean they weren't the best team in the nba last year?

Is that the best analogy you could come up with? No offense but that analogy is stupid. In this sport, just one loss could ruin your chances at a title while the NBA has never been & will never be that way.

Considering how weak the Pac 10 is, you should not be losing a game in that conference. By the end of the year, the Pac 10 will be lucky to have another team ranked other then USC & that is a pretty glaring statement on how pathetic the conference is this year compared to the other big conferences.

 

[pt1gard]

point is

point is

we'd obviously bet a lot on either team ML

whippy? (need bread crumbs here)

gl, gregg


ps I asked the same qustion concerning usc/oh st last week ... just curious to see what people felt ... I would imagine usc would be the fave by linesmakers who seem to know a hell of a lot more than guys like me

 

[Scott4USC]

Fletcher, mjalam,

I agree with you, and USC clearly is the 2nd best team in the nation and I think USC "can" beat OU. Although USC lost their 2nd best OL for the year on Sat. :cursin:

I felt USC was better than LSU before this weekend, but after watching some the Ole Miss game (because i had Ole Miss +7 and ML) I am convinced USC is the better team (despite all the injuries USC has endured). LSU makes too many mistakes, and their offense is not strong enough. USC has a much better defense than Ole Miss. Also, i don't think LSU defense could stop USC either. In addition,USC holds the coaching advantage as well. Saban is a good coach (excellent recruiter) but he is not in Carrolls league. USC and OU both have the 2 best coaching staffs in the nation.

USC vs OU is the #1 vs #2 matchup America wants to see. Including me.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Fletcher, mjalam,

I agree with you, and USC clearly is the 2nd best team in the nation and I think USC "can" beat OU. Although USC lost their 2nd best OL for the year on Sat. :cursin:

I felt USC was better than LSU before this weekend, but after watching some the Ole Miss game (because i had Ole Miss +7 and ML) I am convinced USC is the better team (despite all the injuries USC has endured). LSU makes too many mistakes, and their offense is not strong enough. USC has a much better defense than Ole Miss. Also, i don't think LSU defense could stop USC either. In addition,USC holds the coaching advantage as well. Saban is a good coach (excellent recruiter) but he is not in Carrolls league. USC and OU both have the 2 best coaching staffs in the nation.

USC vs OU is the #1 vs #2 matchup America wants to see. Including me.

Who cares what you or America wants to see. It is really pathetic of you to assume you know what America wants to see. I don't care if you showed me 100 polls, it wouldn't matter as no poll could ever be accurate since you aren't asking every fan.

You bragged about USC's SOS over & over but all of a sudden you don't bring it up now, I wonder why. Is it maybe because it is a joke even more so after Washington St lost for the 3rd time & Cal has 6 losses!!!! How pathetic is it to even lose to a team with 6 losses.

Are you Carroll's lover? Seriously what has he accomplished so far? You brag about him all the time but he hasn't done much yet. He doesn't even have as many wins as a coach combined in his lifetime as Nick does. I'm not saying he isn't going to accomplish alot but before you crown him your messiah, let him show some stuff.

How much LSU football have you watched honestly? LSU's defense is legit. Going into last Saturday, they were the only defense in the country to allow under 100 pts. They play in a tougher conference & have played better offensive teams so that is a statement to how good they are.

I was reading some articles over the weekend & came across some interesting comments. These are from people who actually coached or were on the field against either USC or LSU. In my opinion it says alot considering they have no reason to be biased & are sharing what they feel:

Alabama QB Brodie Croyle:

"They're every bit as good as Oklahoma,"


Alabama LT Atlas Herrion:

"They're both pretty much the same. LSU's front seven is a little bigger. They've got speed just like Oklahoma has speed. They've got big names just like Oklahoma has big names."


Arizona's Clay Hart on USC& LSU:

"I thought they were really good. But personally, I think LSU was the best team we've faced since I've been a Wildcat."


Alabama coach Mike Shula:

So how is a team that, according to Alabama coach Mike Shula, is "neck and neck" with unanimous No. 1 Oklahoma only fourth in the BCS standings?



These are just a few unbiased comments imo. You always want to throw up LSU's weak OOC schedule in their face but look at the facts. They had 2 teams back out on them for this season including Marshall who backed out in January for more money & a ESPN weeknight game & they had to quickly find an opponent to make up for that. Ask every AD in this country how easy it is to schedule games especially one for the upcoming season in Jan of the same year? Also when Arizona was scheduled, no one expected them to be this bad.

A little section from another article:

Marshall was originally scheduled to play the Tigers in Tiger Stadium, but it pulled out of its commitment in January and sent the LSU athletic department scrambling for an opponent.

"There was nothing we could do about it," said Radakovich, who coordinates football scheduling. "Our goal all the time is to find Division I-A schools and that was our goal back in January, but we weren't able to do it because of the lateness of the date."

With the help of ESPN, LSU tried to broker a deal with another Division I-A school. Radakovich would not say which school it was.

He called the school's athletic department to finalize the game for Sept. 13, but the school said it didn't have the date free. When the deal couldn't be finalized, LSU scurried to find someone else opening the door for Western Illinois.

 

[Scott4USC]

Mr Hockey

The 2nd best team in the nation does not beat Ole Miss by 3pts with OLE MISS missing 2 field goals. LSU is not in USC league. Simple as that. LSU is a very good football team, but they are not on level with USC. Sorry if that statement hurts your feelings.

As for SOS, unfortunately for USC they cannot control the fate of the teams they scheduled. On paper before this year USC clearly had the top 10 toughest schedule. Before this last weekend, USC SOS was #37, while LSU was #72. That is quite a big difference. Lets see what the SOS is after this weekend, I think USC went down and LSU went up because WSU and OSU both lost which hurts USC.

Pete Carroll has accomplished a lot since becoming head coach for USC. Lets see, he took over a program on the decline and in his 3rd year look at where USC is now? USC is going to be a top 5 team every year for a "long time." Get used to it.

Pete Carroll has won 26 of his last 30 games.

Pete Carroll had the #1 toughest SOS last year and went
11-2

Pete Carroll won the Orange Bowl and finished #3 in the nation last year, but many argued including me that USC was the best team in the nation last year. (i did not say they deserved the NC)

Pete Carroll has only lost once by double digits in 3 years, and that was @ ND after blowing a lead in his first year.

Pete Carroll had established himself as if not the #1 recruiter in the nation, at least a top 3 recruiter. I personally think he is the best recruiter in the nation, just look at the athletes USC has brought in and are going to be in this up coming class. SHOCKING!
This USC team challenging for the NC is made up mostly of FROSH, SOPH. and JUNIORS! VERY VERY SCARY! This year USC had completely new backfield and brand new QB, and look was Carroll and staff has done. Remarkable, especially playing @ AU 1st game of year.

Yep, there is a lot going to USC and Pete Carroll. The funny thing is nobody wanted Carroll at USC, and look how it has turned out. I would not trade Carroll or the rest of the USC coaching staff for anybody in the nation.

You asked what Carroll has accomplished so far and i gave it to you. You want more in detail?

You said LSU had 2 teams cancel on them this year. Well the 2 teams that cancelled on them are def. not world beaters. :lol:

USC was speaking across the nation trying to play someone for the BCA classic. YEP, USC wanted to play another game before playing @ AU (pre-season #1). USC wanted Miami (pre-season top 5) but they declined. I am 100% sure if LSU was looking for teams to play, they could have played USC in the BCA classic if they wanted too. We already know USC is not afraid to play anyone or anywhere. Michigan turned USC down already, and USC was willing to play @MICHIGAN! :lol:

LSU screwed themselves over with their weak schedule and maybe this will teach them a lesson. I am confident they could have scheduled USC and prob. another strong competitor if they really wanted too. The question is, did they want too? :nooo:

The LSU AD said they try and schedule D1 opponents every year? Let me see...........

Last year LSU played
The Citadel :lol:
La Lafayette :lol:
Miami (OHIO)
Virginia Tech (only quality OOC game)

(I GUESS 2 teams cancelled on LSU AGAIN LAST YEAR!)

2 years ago, LSU played...........
Tulane
Utah State
Middle Tenn. St.

That sure is a tough OOC slate, at least none are division 2 schools. Give LSU credit there. :lol:

The point being is USC and LSU are 2 different programs. USC plays anybody, anywhere. USC takes pride in that and Trojan fans would not allow USC to play a weak OOC schedule especially schedule a div. 2 school. USC fans would be embarrassed. LSU fans and program take pride in beating weaker competition by 40pts. This allows them to think they are powerhouses. Guess it finally catches up to LSU and they learn the hard way.

FIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dawgball]

Don't take this as me saying that Georgia is a contender because we are not. I think Oklahoma and USC would both wear us out.

Nobody is considering that LSU is not going to win out. If anyone watched the first Georgia-LSU game, they were lucky to get the win. Dropped balls and 3 missed FGs by one of the most consistent kickers in the land killed us.

Did LSU deserve the victory? Of course. Are they automatic to win the SEC championship game? Not even close. It's going to be us or Florida and my opinion is that they could easily lose to either one of those teams.

But, this is just another HOMER point of view.

 

[Nosigar]

USC Played OOC this year:

BYU
Hawaii
Notre Dame
Auburn

The in conference rivals are a joke: Arizona, Stanford, Arizona State, et al.

And you always worry about Hawaii on the road, don't you? And BYU? Man, those guys still play with leather helmets, don't they. Notre Dame is fearless!

Only 1 team in top 25 as opponent this year. None in the top 15.

PEOPLE, this is supposed to be the No. 2 team in the country. No quality opponents in or out of conference.?? WTF is that?

They may be good, but don't give me that "Only USC can hang with Oklahoma" bullchit. They haven't been tested against anybody, and they've had no pressure.

When you play the SEC you really don't need tough OOC scheduling, as opposed to the PAC-10... errrrrr...... and the MAC for that case :moon:

But, still, best of luck. You guys will probably be in the SB, the TV people want it and the mostly clueless writers. We still have to win two more games to see if we keep 3rd ranking.

 

[Cie]

Scott

I was under the impression that our main goal here is to exchange information and ideas in an effort to increase our chances of winning. You win, USC is great. LSU is DEFINITELY worse than USC. USC is the ONLY team that has a chance at beating Oklahoma, and so on and so forth.....

Now can we get on with beating the man.:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

 

[Stuman]

Sorry I didn't see you in the grove, Cie Grant. Hope you had as much fun as we did. I have some pictures that I'm going to post soon...

Stuman

 

[Mr Hockey]

Mr Hockey

The 2nd best team in the nation does not beat Ole Miss by 3pts with OLE MISS missing 2 field goals. LSU is not in USC league. Simple as that. LSU is a very good football team, but they are not on level with USC. Sorry if that statement hurts your feelings.

As for SOS, unfortunately for USC they cannot control the fate of the teams they scheduled. On paper before this year USC clearly had the top 10 toughest schedule. Before this last weekend, USC SOS was #37, while LSU was #72. That is quite a big difference. Lets see what the SOS is after this weekend, I think USC went down and LSU went up because WSU and OSU both lost which hurts USC.

Pete Carroll has accomplished a lot since becoming head coach for USC. Lets see, he took over a program on the decline and in his 3rd year look at where USC is now? USC is going to be a top 5 team every year for a "long time." Get used to it.

Pete Carroll has won 26 of his last 30 games.

Pete Carroll had the #1 toughest SOS last year and went
11-2

Pete Carroll won the Orange Bowl and finished #3 in the nation last year, but many argued including me that USC was the best team in the nation last year. (i did not say they deserved the NC)

Pete Carroll has only lost once by double digits in 3 years, and that was @ ND after blowing a lead in his first year.

Pete Carroll had established himself as if not the #1 recruiter in the nation, at least a top 3 recruiter. I personally think he is the best recruiter in the nation, just look at the athletes USC has brought in and are going to be in this up coming class. SHOCKING!
This USC team challenging for the NC is made up mostly of FROSH, SOPH. and JUNIORS! VERY VERY SCARY! This year USC had completely new backfield and brand new QB, and look was Carroll and staff has done. Remarkable, especially playing @ AU 1st game of year.

Yep, there is a lot going to USC and Pete Carroll. The funny thing is nobody wanted Carroll at USC, and look how it has turned out. I would not trade Carroll or the rest of the USC coaching staff for anybody in the nation.

You asked what Carroll has accomplished so far and i gave it to you. You want more in detail?

You said LSU had 2 teams cancel on them this year. Well the 2 teams that cancelled on them are def. not world beaters. :lol:

USC was speaking across the nation trying to play someone for the BCA classic. YEP, USC wanted to play another game before playing @ AU (pre-season #1). USC wanted Miami (pre-season top 5) but they declined. I am 100% sure if LSU was looking for teams to play, they could have played USC in the BCA classic if they wanted too. We already know USC is not afraid to play anyone or anywhere. Michigan turned USC down already, and USC was willing to play @MICHIGAN! :lol:

LSU screwed themselves over with their weak schedule and maybe this will teach them a lesson. I am confident they could have scheduled USC and prob. another strong competitor if they really wanted too. The question is, did they want too? :nooo:

The LSU AD said they try and schedule D1 opponents every year? Let me see...........

Last year LSU played
The Citadel :lol:
La Lafayette :lol:
Miami (OHIO)
Virginia Tech (only quality OOC game)

(I GUESS 2 teams cancelled on LSU AGAIN LAST YEAR!)

2 years ago, LSU played...........
Tulane
Utah State
Middle Tenn. St.

That sure is a tough OOC slate, at least none are division 2 schools. Give LSU credit there. :lol:

The point being is USC and LSU are 2 different programs. USC plays anybody, anywhere. USC takes pride in that and Trojan fans would not allow USC to play a weak OOC schedule especially schedule a div. 2 school. USC fans would be embarrassed. LSU fans and program take pride in beating weaker competition by 40pts. This allows them to think they are powerhouses. Guess it finally catches up to LSU and they learn the hard way.

FIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Typical homer response by you. Well last I checked, the 2nd best team does not lose to a barely average Cal team who has 6 freaking losses! They aren't even a top 25 team or probably even top 40! LSU lost to a legit team who has fewer losses, plays in a tougher conference, & has a stronger SOS. These are facts so deal with it.

USC is going to be a top 5 team for years to come, well until they show it, I'm not buying it. All because you have the talent doesn't mean you will get the job done. Also deal with it, the fact is Saban has more wins as a coach & ask AD's around the country who would they want to have as a coach Saban or Carroll, I'm positive Saban would win. There is a reason he is always mentioned as a coaching canidate when big vacancies open.

Whippy you brag about his recruiting, get off his nuts about that already. There are better recruiters in this country who have done it year after year for quite some time, not just a few years in a row.

Instead of admitting you are basing alot of your homer views on opinions & not facts, you continue to always attempt to spin anything that shows proof against USC in their favor.

You are a 100% sure they could have played in the BCA classic, ok? Jesus do you ever look at the facts instead of dropping to your knees all the time? Don't your lips ever get sore?

 

[Mr Hockey]

Oh yeah by the way last I checked, it is normal for teams to play close games against solid competition. What would USC know about that? They beat up on a bunch of teams who are down & in a close game where they were tested, they failed, end of story.

I'm not surprised you made no mention of what some people who have played either LSU/USC or both. Why would you, it would be impossible for people who actually played the teams to be right since it isn't pro USC

 

[Scott4USC]

Sorry you feel that way about USC. I also don't understand why you continue to bring up the CAL loss. BIG DEAL! Why not look at what USC has done since losing to CAL? Thats an idea.

USC is a proven title contender. Look what USC and Pete Carroll did last year against the #1 SOS and against IOWA in the Orange Bowl. Iowa fans said the same exact things you are saying now about LSU. Same exact arguments. Go check what USC did to IOWA. I would predict the same exact thing to happen to LSU. Especially since I think LSU has a weaker offense than Iowa last year.

I don't think you have seen USC play this year. If you have, then you would not be making these statements.

Today the BCS came out, and they have........
USC SOS 31
LSU SOS 69

Up to this date USC SOS is more than 2 times stronger than LSU's.

USC is playing like they can beat anybody in the nation. LSU is barely beating their opponents. Not what a 2nd ranked team in the nation should be playing. Especially with OLE MISS missing 2 field goals and 1 of them would have put the game in overtime.

The only way LSU gets to the sugar bowl is if UGA does not play them in the SEC Championship. I also think LSU should hope UGA does not play them again because LSU should have lost that game. They were clearly dominated by Georgia. USC has dominated every opponent except CAL (which USC lost in triple OT) I also do not think you are giving CAL much respect. CAL has played the 12 toughest SOS. Too bad LSU is not up to the challenge.

You want to compare common opponents between USC and LSU?
USC
@AU won 23-0
@Arizona won 45-0

LSU
Beat AU at home 31-7
@Arizona won 59-13

USC victories are clearly more impressive, especially shutting out AU away and shutting out Arizona. Remember, USC opened the season @AU. Very impressive. LSU played Arizona when they were still being coached by MAC who got fired. Arizona was playing better ball at the end of the year (upset UW).

Lastly, i would argue that most universities AD's would go after Carroll over Saban. Carroll in my opinion is a lot better head coach than Saban. Carroll was offered the 49ers job last year and he turned it down. Coaching the 49ers was Carrolls life long dream until he started coaching USC. Unfortunately for teams acrosss the nation, thats bad news, Carroll is here to stay!

Oh one more thing about recruiting (since you seem to doubt Carrolls recruiting efforts), let me give you inside info. USC last year recruited 3 stud freshman. All 3 were ranked top 10 in the nation and Reggie Bush was considered the #1 RB in the nation by many recruiting services. 2 of the 3 are playing this year and have performed great. Guess what, the #1 RB in the nation out of high school this year is Adrian Peterson, and he is supposed to be an OU lock. Well he visited USC last weekend, and some people on the inside have said he gave Carroll a verbal. Why would he come to USC and compete against 4 STUD RB's or go to OU and be the STUD RB???? Now i am not saying he for sure is coming to USC, but let me tell you, USC is very high on his list and I am shocked he is considering USC because of our stud frosh that already on the team. Guess Carroll is the best recruiter in the nation. I think he is.

FIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mr Hockey]

A player who played against both teams even said LSU was the best team he ever played as a Wildcat. You can't deny that is an impressive statement considering as a Wildcat you would obviously play USC more then LSU.

Hello moron LSU is playing tougher teams then USC, of course they aren't going to rout them

Wait all of a sudden you say they lost to Cal, big deal? Earlier this season you were trying to justify that loss in every which way possible but now that your arguement got exposed on that front, all of a sudden it isn't a big deal. Surprise surprise coming from you.

I've seen USC play numerous times & I've seen the teams they played. I've seen LSU many times & the teams they play. The SEC for a fact is a stronger conference then the Pac 10 so of course scores will be different.

What is more impressive about USC's victories over common opponents again? Oh wait they must be more impressive because they were by big bad USC Hello earth to homer, LSU played Auburn when the Tigers were playing better football! Why am I not surprised that you overlook this nuggest. Auburn had won 5 straight games going into that LSU game including a win over a top 10 team! You like to bring up that LSU caught Arizona at a bad time & USC didn't but you ignore the fact that USC caught Auburn at a bad time & LSU didn't. Typical from you

 

[Mr Hockey]

Saban has been linked with more jobs then Carroll ever has. Why don't you just stop making a fool of yourself?

 

[jpblack34]

The right team is ranked #2 right now. USC is playing some great football as is LSU. The problem with the BCS is that the only team that controls its destiny is OU. There are so many factors that come into play. I would like to see USC play OU because I feel like it would be a much more Offensive game, but with the WSU loss and the possiblity of LSU running the table, the runner up in the national championship game is up for grabs.

Scott you said "give Pete Carroll a month to prepare for a game, and see what happens." replace Carroll with Bob Stoops and think before you type. He is the best coach in America right now. Stoops will win the NC and will win it convincingly. JMO. Hope I haven't offended anyone.

 

[Scott4USC]

jpblack34

First i want to say Stoops and his staff are excellent. I have the upmost respect for them and the OU program. However, I would not trade Pete Carroll, Norm Chow, and the rest of the USC staff for any other staff in the country (including Stoops).

I think Carroll is a better coach and has his program in a better direction (if thats possible because OU is great). YES I KNOW many are going to disagree, and maybe rightfully so. Think about this for one second. The last 2 years USC has played great football and easily is the top 2 teams in the nation the last 2 years. Now, these last 2 years USC was not suppose to contend for the NC. These "next" 2 years are suppose to be USC title runs. SO lets think, if USC is dominating when they are not suppose too, what is going to happen the next 2 years?

Remember, Carroll is winning with a very very young football team right now. USC also has endured at least 5 "crucial" injuries this year and USC has not missed a beat. Thats great coaching.

Just think about that. Oh yeah, Carroll out recruits Stoops so USC "should" be more talented than OU in the future. I will say very near future!

Lastly, I have heard USC will be playing OU in a home and home series. I think the next 2 years, or maybe 2005-2006. Its almost a done deal. Should be great, can't wait.

OU and USC IMO are the 2 teams with the best coaching staffs. Only difference is Stoops has been with his program longer while this is Carrolls only 3rd year.

FIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jpblack34]

Scott, thanks for the reply. no doubt that Pete Carroll is way ahead of schedule. But look at this. Bob Stoops started in 1999, and his NC came the next year. Not that Carroll has to do this to prove his coaching ability, but let's not forget that about Stoops. Mike Stoops leaving is going to have a huge impact on our football program. It is time for him to leave because he will make a super football coach. Everyone that moves on from Stoops progams does well. Mangino and Leach to name two. I think that Mike will give ya'll problems in the upcoming years. If the nonconference games are set between USC and OU in the next few years will be amazing, but I don't see it happening because both teams will be NC contenders. But, if you have proof on that then it will be incredible. As for the recruiting race, I personally feel it is a load of crap, how do you honestly rank HS players? Texas has supposedly outdone OU the last few years in recruiting and we all know how that race has come out. USC is set to have a GREAT team for the upcoming years. I just don't feel that they have the team to upset OU. OU's D and Leinart being young sets them back in my opinion.

On the side, I will be at the Sugar Bowl and if ya'll make it then maybe I could buy you a beer or anyone else there from MJ's. We have pressbox seats there. I would like to offer a side wager just for you Scott for something friendly. Maybe a hat bet or something or shirt to the winner. I'm setting the line right now, OU-13. If interested, let me know. Shoot Jack and get my email and let me know. GL rest of the way either way.

 

[Mr Hockey]

jpblack34

First i want to say Stoops and his staff are excellent. I have the upmost respect for them and the OU program. However, I would not trade Pete Carroll, Norm Chow, and the rest of the USC staff for any other staff in the country (including Stoops).

I think Carroll is a better coach and has his program in a better direction (if thats possible because OU is great). YES I KNOW many are going to disagree, and maybe rightfully so. Think about this for one second. The last 2 years USC has played great football and easily is the top 2 teams in the nation the last 2 years. Now, these last 2 years USC was not suppose to contend for the NC. These "next" 2 years are suppose to be USC title runs. SO lets think, if USC is dominating when they are not suppose too, what is going to happen the next 2 years?

Remember, Carroll is winning with a very very young football team right now. USC also has endured at least 5 "crucial" injuries this year and USC has not missed a beat. Thats great coaching.

Just think about that. Oh yeah, Carroll out recruits Stoops so USC "should" be more talented than OU in the future. I will say very near future!

Lastly, I have heard USC will be playing OU in a home and home series. I think the next 2 years, or maybe 2005-2006. Its almost a done deal. Should be great, can't wait.

OU and USC IMO are the 2 teams with the best coaching staffs. Only difference is Stoops has been with his program longer while this is Carrolls only 3rd year.

FIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!

Stoops vs Carroll = NO CONTEST

How many titles has Carroll won again?

No offense but to base alot of your points on recruiting class just shows how you are reaching. There have been tons of teams that have had amazing recruiting classes & not won a title so it will take more then that to get the job done.

 

[Scott4USC]

jpblack34

Very nice and informative reply. I enjoyed reading it and you brought up good points and were respectful. I'll ask jack for your e-mail. I also will be at the sugar bowl.

Mr Hockey

You say you have watched USC football games. So i take it your familiar with the USC players. Go look up the USC roster, and see all the FRESHMAN, SOPH. and JUNIORS on the team who are stars/super stars. Thats a result of recruiting great talent but more importantly develiping talent as well.

For example Mike Williams was only 3 out of 5 star recruit.

Yes Stoops won the NC in his 2nd year. In Carrolls 2nd year he had to face the #1 SOS (unlike Stoops) and many said USC was the best team in the nation and i agree. I did not say they deserved the NC. If Stoops team 2nd year (NC YEAR) faced Pete Carrolls USC team last year, USC would win hands down. YES i remember that great OU defense but also that horrible offense. USC was explosive both sides of the ball. Just my opinion.

I also have 1 question for you, how come the BCS SOS does not recognize and agree with you that LSU has played a tougher schedule?

USC SOS 31
LSU SOS 61

 

[Mr Hockey]

jpblack34

Very nice and informative reply. I enjoyed reading it and you brought up good points and were respectful. I'll ask jack for your e-mail. I also will be at the sugar bowl.

Mr Hockey

You say you have watched USC football games. So i take it your familiar with the USC players. Go look up the USC roster, and see all the FRESHMAN, SOPH. and JUNIORS on the team who are stars/super stars. Thats a result of recruiting great talent but more importantly develiping talent as well.

For example Mike Williams was only 3 out of 5 star recruit.

Yes Stoops won the NC in his 2nd year. In Carrolls 2nd year he had to face the #1 SOS (unlike Stoops) and many said USC was the best team in the nation and i agree. I did not say they deserved the NC. If Stoops team 2nd year (NC YEAR) faced Pete Carrolls USC team last year, USC would win hands down. YES i remember that great OU defense but also that horrible offense. USC was explosive both sides of the ball. Just my opinion.

I also have 1 question for you, how come the BCS SOS does not recognize and agree with you that LSU has played a tougher schedule?

USC SOS 31
LSU SOS 61

No offense but you need some serious help if you think that USC's team last year would have beat Oklahoma. How many points do you think they would have scored against that D? USC was playing good football at the end of the season but they weren't the 2nd best team in the country as that was determined by a whole season & not just chunks which is a fact.

Wow big deal they have young players who are doing good, there are a # of teams in this country that can say the same thing. The only reason you ever get called out is because you spread USC gospel & mix & choose what facts you want to bring in. When a point of yours gets exposed, you quickly drop it & go into something else.

The BCS is a joke, always has been, always will be. One or two computers can completely throw off #'s & you know that is the case. They are getting punished for one game in which they had to schedule someone as they were backed out on in Jan of this year!

There is NOTHING you can say that would make most believe Stoops is a better coach then Carroll. The man won in his second year for christ sake, & look at that record against top 25 teams. Stoops flat out is a better coach then Carroll. Go ask every AD in this country if they had a chance to choose between Stoops & Carroll, I guarantee Stoops would win.