Madjack or anyone help!!

[The Big Tease]

OK heres my story...


I made a deposit to my sportsbook and I was double charged out of my bank account. The sportsbook needed me to fax something from my bank showing that there was a double charge to my account. When I called the bank, they apparently requested the sales receipt from the sportsbooks bank. The sportsbook views this as a "funds retrieval" I guess when this happens, the sportsbook has a certain number of days to comply or else it turns into a full blown chargeback. Of course as you know the sportsbooks dont want anything to do with a chargeback. So the sportsbook, or so they say, sent the "disputed funds" back to my credit card and made my sportsbook account inactive. I called them and they told me that I need to send them money to cover for the chargeback. After a few days I went ahead and did this Western Union. They reopened my account, but now I have not gotten the money that they claim was sent back via the chargeback. My bank does not show any credits being issued back to my card and still have the request for the sales receipt active. The sportsbook thinks this is a done deal. What they dont know is that since my bank does have any record of anything, this will become a full blown chargeback after a few more days. If this happens, I am sure that I am back to square one. They will make my account inactive and I am not Western Union-ing anymore funds to them. What does anyone suggest I do? Should I withdraw my funds and proceeds with the chargeback? If I do this, I am going to shut my bank account down and get a new check card, so they cant charge it anymore.

Any help from anyone is appreciated. I sure hope to hell this makes sense

 

[The Big Tease]

oh what i forgot to mention is that in the meantime of all of this, the sportsbook and i settled on the double charge. they just credited my account for both the initial charge and the double charge.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

If it's a debit card for a bank account, you don't have the same rules on chargebacks that you do with credit cards. Wait two days and if the amount isn't in your account by then, then file full claims to get your money back and don't use the book again. The double charge may have happened innocently enough (maybe you double-clicked the deposit screen), but as time goes by (60 days or so depending on your agreement, your rites diminish)

Good Luck.

Is this SIA?

 

[The Big Tease]

BBC, the book said that they completed the chargeback on december 24th! so i think it is safe to say that i wont be getting this money by a simple credit. i am gonna withdraw my money outta there and do a full out chargeback on em. does anyone know if anything bad can come of that? no legal battle, etc?

 

[MadJack]

what bobby said.

if you get screwed in the end, let me know what book and send your acct id to me and i'll try to help you out.

jack@madjacksports.com

 

[The Big Tease]

thanks guys I appreciate the help! I had a feeling that these funds would end up in limbo considering I never really disputed them in the first place.

 

[MadJack]

very important

very important

in the meantime (if i understand this correctly) don't bet with that book because if they think, or can say that you have a chargeback, they will not pay you if you win. they'll, of course, take your money if you lose.

know what i mean? don't bet with them until this is cleared up.

 

[The Big Tease]

good idea....

only thing is that they think it is all cleared up. they think that they have settled the whole situation. what they dont know is that in 15 more business days the request for the sales receipt will turn into a full blown chargeback (beyond my control). i am going to try and withdraw my money while they think everything is cool (since they are unwilling to work with me) then dispute the charges once i empty my account.

 

[british bulldog]

How much are books different over in the USA than here in Europe.

If you deposit funds via check account or credit card any statement you receive from bank or card issuer will show amount deposited to your book and any chargers incurred on that transaction.

If you have two charges against one deposit this is proof to the book that you have indeed been charged twice and it is down to them to re-imbuse you in full plus any interest incurred on that sum of money.

Failure by the book to re-imburse you is fraud and the book can lose their trading licence.

I suggest you withdraw all funds and after request or print account details of deposits and wagers (if any) that you made. As Jack said do not bet with this book anymore till the matter is resolved. If you do not withdraw funds and as you say that it is possible the whole incident will blow up, you will struggle to get your deposit back as books have a tendancy to with hold money hoping you will go away as a legal battle will cost you more $.

This is just my view.

 

[THE KOD]

The double charge may have happened innocently enough (maybe you double-clicked the deposit screen),

I have had this happen twice to me where the deposit I am making is double billed. When I questioned it they seem trained to say do you just want to keep it in there ?

How many people do they double bill routinely ?

Scott King of Dogs

 

[beachbum]

can we get the name of the sports book?

 

[dr. freeze]

How much are books different over in the USA than here in Europe.

If you deposit funds via check account or credit card any statement you receive from bank or card issuer will show amount deposited to your book and any chargers incurred on that transaction.

If you have two charges against one deposit this is proof to the book that you have indeed been charged twice and it is down to them to re-imbuse you in full plus any interest incurred on that sum of money.

Failure by the book to re-imburse you is fraud and the book can lose their trading licence.

I suggest you withdraw all funds and after request or print account details of deposits and wagers (if any) that you made. As Jack said do not bet with this book anymore till the matter is resolved. If you do not withdraw funds and as you say that it is possible the whole incident will blow up, you will struggle to get your deposit back as books have a tendancy to with hold money hoping you will go away as a legal battle will cost you more $.

This is just my view.

dude....these books are not in the USA....and there will be no legal battle cuz there is no jurisdiction over them.....

the only thing that can hurt these books is bad publicity....thats the only thing that keeps them honest