Many insured struggle with medical bills

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Poll: Many insured struggle with medical bills






By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR and JENNIFER AGIESTA

Oct. 13, 2014 1:01 PM EDT


WASHINGTON (AP) ? They have health insurance, but still no peace of mind. Overall, 1 in 4 privately insured adults say they doubt they could pay for a major unexpected illness or injury.

A new poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research may help explain why President Barack Obama faces such strong headwinds in trying to persuade the public that his health care law is holding down costs.

The survey found the biggest financial worries among people with so-called high-deductible plans that require patients to pay a big chunk of their medical bills each year before insurance kicks in.

Such plans already represented a growing share of employer-sponsored coverage. Now, they're also the mainstay of the new health insurance exchanges created by Obama's law.

Edward Frank of Reynoldsville, Pennsylvania, said he bought a plan with a $6,000 deductible last year through HealthCare.gov. That's in the high range, since deductibles for popular silver plans on the insurance exchanges average about $3,100 ? still a lot.

"Unless you get desperately ill and in the hospital for weeks, it's going to cost you more to have this plan and pay the premiums than to pay the bill just outright," said Frank, who ended up paying $4,000 of his own money for treatment of shoulder pain.

"The deductibles are so high, you don't get much of anything out of it," said Frank, who is in 50s and looking for a new job.

The poll found that people respond to the hit on their wallets in ways that may not help their health:

? Nineteen percent of all privately insured adults said they did not go to the doctor when they were sick or injured, because of costs. Among those with high-deductible plans, the figure was 29 percent.

? Seventeen percent skipped a recommended test or treatment; it was 23 percent among those with high-deductible plans.

? Eighteen percent of all adults went without a physical exam or other preventive care, 24 percent among those with high-deductible plans.

Sandra Chapman, a warehouse worker from Memphis, said she had to go without cholesterol medication last year because of issues with her prescription coverage. Instead of taking pills, she changed her diet.

"They only cover certain stuff and, I don't know, the rules change all the time," said Chapman, in her early 30s.

Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell recently said part of the problem is that many consumers don't understand how to buy health insurance, or how to use their plan once they get their cards in the mail.

For example, there should be no reason to skip routine preventive care, since the health care law requires insurers to provide it at no charge to the patient.

"People need to understand how to use their health care," said Burwell. "We need to spend time educating people."

Only about half of those surveyed said they had a strong understanding of what their plans cover.

Consumers sometimes pick health insurance based on the monthly premium alone. But low-premium plans have higher deductibles and other out-of-pocket costs. People who are concerned about exposure to big bills can come out ahead financially by paying higher premiums for a plan that features lower out-of-pocket costs.

Indeed, the poll showed that a majority of those with private insurance, 52 percent, would rather pay a higher premium and limit out-of-pocket costs than lower their premiums and potentially face higher out-of-pocket charges.

Many consumers also said they made financial trade-offs to pay medical bills:

?Overall, 33 percent said they cut back on entertainment; it was 43 percent among those with high-deductible plans.

?18 percent said they used up all or most of their savings, 24 percent among those with high-deductible plans.

?19 percent said they dialed down their contributions for retirement savings, 28 percent for people with high-deductible plans.

One government definition sets the threshold for a high-deductible plan at $1,300 for individual coverage, but actually annual deductibles of $2,000 and even much higher are common.

Some people pair a high-deductible plan with a tax-sheltered savings account to pay their out-of-pocket costs ? the poll found 40 percent who say they have high-deductible plans also have such an account. On the insurance exchanges, low-income people can receive additional help from the government for their cost-sharing expenses.

In another potentially troublesome finding for the White House, the poll found signs of dissatisfaction among people who changed plans in the last year, as the president's health overhaul went into full effect.

Plan-switchers who said they are paying more outnumbered those who are paying less by 45 percent to 29 percent. Of those paying more, 11 percent said they are getting higher-quality care for their dollar.

The AP-NORC Center survey was conducted with financial support from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.

The telephone poll conducted between July 22 and September 3 included interviews with a random national sample of 1,004 privately insured adults aged 18 to 64. Results for the full survey have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4.1 percentage points. It is larger for subgroups.

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Associated Press writer Stacy A. Anderson and AP News Survey Specialist Emily Swanson contributed to this report.
 

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I wish you weren't such a racist neo-con.
It doesn't matter that people's premiums are going up.
It doesn't matter that deductibles went up.
It doesn't matter that plans changed
It doesn't matter that the Nobel Peace prize winning President has bombed 7 different Muslim nations since he received that award.
It doesn't matter that in Afghanistan, under the king of neocons, Boosh, America only lost 3000 troops. Since, under Pres Obama, America has lost over 17,0000 in Afghanistan.
It does not matter that under this President, more people are living on food stamps....93 million have dropped out of the labor force altogether, most new jobs are low wage and the gap between rich and poor has not been wider since the Great Depression.
I could continue but these facts do not matter.
You are just a racist POS and can not see all the good this President has done for the nation.
 

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Skulnik

I wish you weren't such a racist neo-con.
It doesn't matter that people's premiums are going up.
It doesn't matter that deductibles went up.
It doesn't matter that plans changed
It doesn't matter that the Nobel Peace prize winning President has bombed 7 different Muslim nations since he received that award.
It doesn't matter that in Afghanistan, under the king of neocons, Boosh, America only lost 3000 troops. Since, under Pres Obama, America has lost over 17,0000 in Afghanistan.
It does not matter that under this President, more people are living on food stamps....93 million have dropped out of the labor force altogether, most new jobs are low wage and the gap between rich and poor has not been wider since the Great Depression.
I could continue but these facts do not matter.
You are just a racist POS and can not see all the good this President has done for the nation.


We're so easy to hate, we have common sense.

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Skulnik

I wish you weren't such a racist neo-con.
It doesn't matter that people's premiums are going up.
It doesn't matter that deductibles went up.
It doesn't matter that plans changed
It doesn't matter that the Nobel Peace prize winning President has bombed 7 different Muslim nations since he received that award.
It doesn't matter that in Afghanistan, under the king of neocons, Boosh, America only lost 3000 troops. Since, under Pres Obama, America has lost over 17,0000 in Afghanistan.
It does not matter that under this President, more people are living on food stamps....93 million have dropped out of the labor force altogether, most new jobs are low wage and the gap between rich and poor has not been wider since the Great Depression.
I could continue but these facts do not matter.
You are just a racist POS and can not see all the good this President has done for the nation.

Since you want to blame Obama for everything bad that happens, then you must also credit him with everything good that happens:

The price of oil is down
Unemployment is down
the budget deficit is declining.
More people have health ins.
Violent crime is down.
Midwest farmers are having one of their best years ever
Ford, GM and Chrysler arr still in business
etc
etc
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How many lies can one president tell and still retain any credibility? What you are about to see is absolutely astounding. It is a long list of important promises that Barack Obama has broken since he has been president. If he had only told a few lies, perhaps the American people would be willing to overlook that. After all, pretty much all of our politicians our liars. Unfortunately, many of the lies that Obama has told appear to have been quite cold-hearted in nature. For example, Barack Obama repeatedly made the promise that ?you will be able to keep your health care plan? under Obamacare. But now we are learning that he knew that this was a lie all along. Not only that, the Democrats in Congress knew that this was a lie all along too. In fact, U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a Democrat, said the following when she was asked about Obama?s promise to the American people recently: ?He should?ve just been specific. No, we all knew.? Barack-Obama-takes-one-last-look-in-the-mirror-before-going-out-to-take-the-oath-of-officeYou can see video of her making this statement right here. The truth is that they all knew that millions upon millions of Americans would lose their current health care policies under Obamacare. They deliberately lied just so that they could get the law passed.




And of course this is far from the only major lie that Obama has told in recent years. The following is a list of 23 famous Obama quotes that turned out to be broken promises or cold-hearted lies?

#1 ?If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what.?

#2 ?My administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in government.?

#3 ?We agree on reforms that will finally reduce the costs of health care. Families will save on their premiums??

#4 ?I don?t want to pit Red America against Blue America. I want to be the president
 of the United States of America.?

#5 ?We?ve got shovel-ready projects all across the country that governors and mayors are pleading to fund. And the minute we can get those investments to the state level, jobs are going to be created.?

#6 ?And we will pursue the housing plan I?m outlining today. And through this plan, we will help between 7 and 9 million families restructure or refinance their mortgages so they can afford?avoid foreclosure.?

#7 ?I will sign a universal health-care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family?s premium by up to $2,500 a year.?

#8 ?We reject the use of national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime.?

#9 ?For people with insurance, the only impact of the health-care law is that their insurance is stronger, better, and more secure than it was before. Full stop. That?s it. They don?t have to worry about anything else.?

#10 ?We will close the detention camp in Guantanamo Bay, the location of so many of the worst constitutional abuses in recent years.?

#11 ?Allow Americans to buy their medicines from other developed countries if the drugs are safe and prices are lower outside the U.S.?

#12 ?We will revisit the Patriot Act and overturn unconstitutional executive decisions issued during the past eight years.?




#13 ?Will ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid.?

#14 ?We reject sweeping claims of ?inherent? presidential power.?

#15 ?Will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This will eliminate taxes for 7 million seniors ? saving them an average of $1,400 a year? and will also mean that 27 million seniors will not need to file an income tax return at all.?

#16 ?We support constitutional protections and judicial oversight on any surveillance program involving Americans.?

#17 ?If we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home, we will end this war. You can take that to the bank.?

#18 ?Will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.?

#19 ?The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.?

#20 ?We have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division and conflict and cynicism?. That is one option. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come together and say, ?Not this time?.??

#21 ?We?ve got to spend some money now to pull us out of this recession. But as soon as we?re out of this recession, we?ve got to get serious about starting to live within our means, instead of leaving debt for our children and our grandchildren and our great-grandchildren.?

#22 ?[T]oday I?m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we?ve long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay ? and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.?

#23 ?I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear that I will execute the office of president of the United States faithfully, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of the United States.

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/11/l...omises-cold-hearted-lies/#BTRkoCcfSBoyFqrT.99
 

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Unemployment is 'down" if you listed to the BLS.

If you look here:

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You will see that unemployment is not really down. It is down to 5.9% if you listen to .gov - amazing that it printed so low on the last NFP before the midterm elections?

And WOW - gasoline prices have dipped below $3.00 for the first time in a long time...hmmm....right before the midterm elections?

Obamacare is the President's signature bill and defining legislation. It was sold to the American people on the basis that it would LOWER premiums, lower deductibles, that you could keep your doctor and your plan and that is not true, you are damn right that I will blame the Pres.
Troop deaths in Afghanistan have increased under this President. Yes - I will blame him - his plan is not working.
Iraq is an unmitigated mess. He ignored the advice of the Pentagon and Chiefs of Staff in regards to keeping a baseline of US troops there. It is his fault.
Pres Obama chose to bomb those countries - he did not seek Congressional approval.
Food stamp nation. Welfare nation. Disability nation. Yes - Pres Obama is very happy to have people dependent on the State.
Businesses are leaving the US and reincorporating overseas because of high corporate tax rates. What is better - collecting some corporate tax at lower rates or collecting nothing because they have left?
More people have health insurance? Really? Because more have moved to Medicaid? Or are you including all the people who had to move over to Obamacare but had coverage already? Or the people who signed up and have not paid?

Violent crime is down? That has nothing to do with Pres Obama - have you looked at the #'s coming out of St. Louis, Detroit and Chicago? Prob not. Violent crimes are declining because residents and homeowners have had enough and are arming themselves.
Oil is down because the USD is strengthening on the basis that it is the cleanest dirty shirt. Nothing to do with Pres Obama.
I don't think Ford still being in business has ANYTHING to do with Pres Obama. I believe that FORD did not accept any bailout funds from the Obama Admin - that was Chrysler and GM. Congrats to Ford.

Your Messiah is a complete failure. He makes Carter look good. But hey, he's working on his golf game.
President Duffer - that's probably why you like him so much.
 

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Unemployment is 'down" if you listed to the BLS.

If you look here:

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"Shadow Stats"? What's that, a load of crappo some right-wing nobody invented? Unemployment IS down, period.

BTW under which president did unemployment begin to skyrocket? Under which did the banks accumulate so much sub prime debt? Under which did we invade Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9-11?

You must think the President has some almighty power if he can move the world wide economy, control the premiums private insurers charge, and control groups like AQ and ISIS.

Like I said, blame Obama for the dandelions in your front yard and the dose of clap you picked up.
 
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