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Hokies havnt been doing too well against the run.
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MIAMI (Fl) Vs VIRGINIA TECH - KOD
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Hokies havnt been doing too well against the run.
OH SHIT !
The running game isn't working. It did against Marshall, but it struggled and sputtered against Alabama and Nebraska.
The Hokies have to start producing on the ground and against the run.
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The Hokies have to start producing on the ground and against the run.
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?Miami Hurricanes defense steps up to challenge
Miami Hurricanes defense steps up to challenge
E leven young men stood up Thursday night before a watching nation, raised hands and volunteered that the University of Miami football team is not all about emerging star quarterback Jacory Harris, after all.
Behold, the Hurricanes have a defense.
Eleven young men raised up as one and resolved not to be embarrassed in their own house the way this very same opponent had crushed and humiliated UM's defense so thoroughly late last season.
W hat if the football had been caught? What if Jarmon Fortson had rescued that burrowing pass instead of squishing it into the end zone grass?
As it so often has, the football game between the University of Miami and Florida State came down to milliseconds, fractions of an inch, a handful of points and countless what-ifs. Monday night's thriller came down to the final play.
At the stroke of midnight, it was princess or pumpkin time.
M ajor-college football programs generally don't wait until the last year to extend the contract of head coaches they have faith in, and so the University of Miami not working a new deal with Randy Shannon is easy to interpret as a slight.
Easy, but wrong.
The notion floating out there is that UM and athletic director Kirby Hocutt want to wait out the start of this season to see how the Hurricanes -- and Shannon -- survive the beyond-tough opening four-game stretch.
Randy Shannon doesn't sleep much during football season. Too many details, too much adrenaline and, lately, lots of late-night congratulatory phone calls.
But he can sleep easier now.
Two consecutive victories against ranked opponents on national TV is a sure-fire cure for insomnia.
In these days of job insecurity, Shannon has removed himself from the hot seat.
For now.
The University of Miami coach won't be napping on his laurels after the No. 20 Hurricanes beat No. 14 Georgia Tech 33-17 on Thursday, 10 days after beating then No. 18 Florida State 38-34.
He knows college football packs as much parity as the NFL with teams such as Boise State and Mississippi mingling with the usual suspects.
He knows UM is only halfway through the rugged four-game stretch of its front-loaded schedule -- four games against top-20 teams. Florida State and Georgia Tech were overrated. But that's the nature of the ACC at the moment: Style over substance.
Is No. 13 Virginia Tech another impostor or the class of the conference? UM will find out Saturday in Blacksburg. Then No. 12 Oklahoma visits Miami.
There was talk that UM would be 0-4 by Oct. 3 and Shannon would be on his way out. But in hindsight that seems like premature panic from grumps who would like to see Shannon fail in just his third year of working to turn the program around.
He's actually the perfect coach at this juncture. He has survived extreme highs and lows in his personal and professional life. He's found that the middle way is best. He rarely changes expression or loses his cool and he expects the same reserve from his players. He's in charge of deflating swollen egos. He's got UM swaggering but not gloating. Eager but not overconfident.
Shannon has perspective. He's been at UM as a player or assistant coach for three national championships -- and he has been there for the controversy of the Thug U. days and the gloom of 5-6 in 1997 and 5-7 in 2007.:SIB
He wants a chance to put his imprint on his alma mater. What is his contract status? He has said privately that he turned down an extension in hopes of getting a better deal after the season. UM sources have said he wasn't given an offer, and president Donna Shalala told The Miami Herald his contract hasn't been discussed.
Shannon is building a strong case for himself with a 2-0 start and impressive recruiting. His players are behaving and graduating.
But he would be the first to tell you UM has only played 16 percent of its schedule.
He ought to be safe at least through the 2010 season. It would be great if Shannon's new offensive and defensive coordinators stick around, too. Mark Whipple and John Lovett have done wonders in a short period of time.
UM has scored 77 points and gained 930 yards in two games after finishing the 2008 season ranked 78th in rushing and 77th in passing under Patrick Nix. The big-play attack is back under Whipple, who likes to exploit matchups and initiate movement.:scared
The constant shifting throws opponents off balance, Shannon said, and once they adjust, Whipple adds another wrinkle.
Quarterback Jacory Harris is thriving now that he's free of the two-quarterback rotation of last season. He has passed for 656 yards and five touchdowns, which puts him on a scorching pace to break Bernie Kosar's single-season yardage record (3,642) of 1984 and Steve Walsh's single-season touchdown record (29) of 1988.:00hour
No wonder Harris has moved way up in the Heisman Trophy ratings.
The defense, led by Darryl Sharpton, Sam Shields, Randy Phillips and Olivier Vernon, is forging an identity under Lovett. UM's swarming D held Georgia Tech's triple option to half its average production.
``Coach Lovett did a good job with the defensive game plan in organizing and structuring it,'' Shannon said. ``I think it was big that he emphasized all week long that we've got to get 11 guys to the football in some way, form or fashion.''
The kicking game remains UM's glaring weakness, and it could bite the Hurricanes if it isn't fixed.
With much to learn about this team, there's still an undeniable buzz about it. A question floating around college football: Is Miami back?
Shannon is telling his players to be calm and not get ahead of themselves. With only two games down, he doesn't want to draw any conclusions about whether UM is back. He wants to keep UM going in the right direction.
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This game is in the bag
Miami Hurricanes defense steps up to challenge
E leven young men stood up Thursday night before a watching nation, raised hands and volunteered that the University of Miami football team is not all about emerging star quarterback Jacory Harris, after all.
Behold, the Hurricanes have a defense.
Eleven young men raised up as one and resolved not to be embarrassed in their own house the way this very same opponent had crushed and humiliated UM's defense so thoroughly late last season.
W hat if the football had been caught? What if Jarmon Fortson had rescued that burrowing pass instead of squishing it into the end zone grass?
As it so often has, the football game between the University of Miami and Florida State came down to milliseconds, fractions of an inch, a handful of points and countless what-ifs. Monday night's thriller came down to the final play.
At the stroke of midnight, it was princess or pumpkin time.
M ajor-college football programs generally don't wait until the last year to extend the contract of head coaches they have faith in, and so the University of Miami not working a new deal with Randy Shannon is easy to interpret as a slight.
Easy, but wrong.
The notion floating out there is that UM and athletic director Kirby Hocutt want to wait out the start of this season to see how the Hurricanes -- and Shannon -- survive the beyond-tough opening four-game stretch.
Randy Shannon doesn't sleep much during football season. Too many details, too much adrenaline and, lately, lots of late-night congratulatory phone calls.
But he can sleep easier now.
Two consecutive victories against ranked opponents on national TV is a sure-fire cure for insomnia.
In these days of job insecurity, Shannon has removed himself from the hot seat.
For now.
The University of Miami coach won't be napping on his laurels after the No. 20 Hurricanes beat No. 14 Georgia Tech 33-17 on Thursday, 10 days after beating then No. 18 Florida State 38-34.
He knows college football packs as much parity as the NFL with teams such as Boise State and Mississippi mingling with the usual suspects.
He knows UM is only halfway through the rugged four-game stretch of its front-loaded schedule -- four games against top-20 teams. Florida State and Georgia Tech were overrated. But that's the nature of the ACC at the moment: Style over substance.
Is No. 13 Virginia Tech another impostor or the class of the conference? UM will find out Saturday in Blacksburg. Then No. 12 Oklahoma visits Miami.
There was talk that UM would be 0-4 by Oct. 3 and Shannon would be on his way out. But in hindsight that seems like premature panic from grumps who would like to see Shannon fail in just his third year of working to turn the program around.
He's actually the perfect coach at this juncture. He has survived extreme highs and lows in his personal and professional life. He's found that the middle way is best. He rarely changes expression or loses his cool and he expects the same reserve from his players. He's in charge of deflating swollen egos. He's got UM swaggering but not gloating. Eager but not overconfident.
Shannon has perspective. He's been at UM as a player or assistant coach for three national championships -- and he has been there for the controversy of the Thug U. days and the gloom of 5-6 in 1997 and 5-7 in 2007.:SIB
He wants a chance to put his imprint on his alma mater. What is his contract status? He has said privately that he turned down an extension in hopes of getting a better deal after the season. UM sources have said he wasn't given an offer, and president Donna Shalala told The Miami Herald his contract hasn't been discussed.
Shannon is building a strong case for himself with a 2-0 start and impressive recruiting. His players are behaving and graduating.
But he would be the first to tell you UM has only played 16 percent of its schedule.
He ought to be safe at least through the 2010 season. It would be great if Shannon's new offensive and defensive coordinators stick around, too. Mark Whipple and John Lovett have done wonders in a short period of time.
UM has scored 77 points and gained 930 yards in two games after finishing the 2008 season ranked 78th in rushing and 77th in passing under Patrick Nix. The big-play attack is back under Whipple, who likes to exploit matchups and initiate movement.:scared
The constant shifting throws opponents off balance, Shannon said, and once they adjust, Whipple adds another wrinkle.
Quarterback Jacory Harris is thriving now that he's free of the two-quarterback rotation of last season. He has passed for 656 yards and five touchdowns, which puts him on a scorching pace to break Bernie Kosar's single-season yardage record (3,642) of 1984 and Steve Walsh's single-season touchdown record (29) of 1988.:00hour
No wonder Harris has moved way up in the Heisman Trophy ratings.
The defense, led by Darryl Sharpton, Sam Shields, Randy Phillips and Olivier Vernon, is forging an identity under Lovett. UM's swarming D held Georgia Tech's triple option to half its average production.
``Coach Lovett did a good job with the defensive game plan in organizing and structuring it,'' Shannon said. ``I think it was big that he emphasized all week long that we've got to get 11 guys to the football in some way, form or fashion.''
The kicking game remains UM's glaring weakness, and it could bite the Hurricanes if it isn't fixed.
With much to learn about this team, there's still an undeniable buzz about it. A question floating around college football: Is Miami back?
Shannon is telling his players to be calm and not get ahead of themselves. With only two games down, he doesn't want to draw any conclusions about whether UM is back. He wants to keep UM going in the right direction.
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This game is in the bag
Harris, who threw for 386 yards and two touchdowns in the opener against the Seminoles, credits the additional time the team has had between games for his early success. Miami had 10 days to prepare for Georgia Tech, and has the same amount of time off before this contest.
"It really has helped us," Harris said. "It's given us more time to watch film. Sometimes when you watch film for the first time, you tend not to see a lot of things. You just scan through it and just look at basically the matchups and stuff like that. But when you go back through it again, you start seeing different things that show up and occur a lot.":SIB
Miami is averaging 35.5 points and leads the ACC with 465.0 yards of total offense per game. Last season, the Hurricanes averaged 326.0 yards and 27.1 points.:scared
Much of that improvement can be attributed to Harris. The Hurricanes passed for 196.8 yards per game in 2008, compared with 328.0 yards early this season, although the quarterback extends the credit to the other side of the ball.
"We're clicking because of the defense," said Harris, who has completed 69.5 percent of his passes. "The defense ... they go out there and they show us that they can stop the team (Georgia Tech) that last year put up over 400 yards rushing on us and when they showed us that, it gave us motivation.":00hour
While Harris and the Hurricanes boast one of the ACC's best offenses, Virginia Tech (2-1, 0-0) is still trying to find its offensive identity.
The Hokies squeaked out a 16-15 victory over then-No. 19 Nebraska last Saturday. After managing only 195 yards of offense in the first three quarters, quarterback Tyrod Taylor connected with Danny Coale on an 80-yard pass, setting up an 11-yard touchdown toss to Dyrell Roberts three plays later with 21 seconds remaining.
Taylor finished 12 of 27 for 192 yards. The Hokies tallied 278 yards of offense -- only 86 on the ground -- as they again struggled to put up numbers against a top 25 foe.
In their two games against ranked opponents, including a 34-24 loss to then-No. 5 Alabama on Sept. 5, Virginia Tech has averaged 216.5 yards of offense -- 75.0 on the ground. It gained 605 total yards in a victory over unranked Marshall on Sept. 12.
Taylor's inability to find running room hasn't helped. The junior, who rushed for 738 yards last season -- seventh-best among quarterbacks -- has run for negative yardage in two of the first three games.
The Hokies expect to have senior cornerback Stephan Virgil in the lineup after he missed two games with a bruised left knee. Virgil, who had 31 tackles last season, is looking to help improve a defense that is giving up an uncharacteristic 364.3 total yards per game.
Virginia Tech and Miami have split the last four meetings at Blacksburg, with the Hokies winning the last one, 44-14 in 2007. Miami leads the all-time series 17-9.
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That 80 yard winning TD toss was the result of a broken play by Nebraska as the guy was wide open.
I smell money and it smells green !
"It really has helped us," Harris said. "It's given us more time to watch film. Sometimes when you watch film for the first time, you tend not to see a lot of things. You just scan through it and just look at basically the matchups and stuff like that. But when you go back through it again, you start seeing different things that show up and occur a lot.":SIB
Miami is averaging 35.5 points and leads the ACC with 465.0 yards of total offense per game. Last season, the Hurricanes averaged 326.0 yards and 27.1 points.:scared
Much of that improvement can be attributed to Harris. The Hurricanes passed for 196.8 yards per game in 2008, compared with 328.0 yards early this season, although the quarterback extends the credit to the other side of the ball.
"We're clicking because of the defense," said Harris, who has completed 69.5 percent of his passes. "The defense ... they go out there and they show us that they can stop the team (Georgia Tech) that last year put up over 400 yards rushing on us and when they showed us that, it gave us motivation.":00hour
While Harris and the Hurricanes boast one of the ACC's best offenses, Virginia Tech (2-1, 0-0) is still trying to find its offensive identity.
The Hokies squeaked out a 16-15 victory over then-No. 19 Nebraska last Saturday. After managing only 195 yards of offense in the first three quarters, quarterback Tyrod Taylor connected with Danny Coale on an 80-yard pass, setting up an 11-yard touchdown toss to Dyrell Roberts three plays later with 21 seconds remaining.
Taylor finished 12 of 27 for 192 yards. The Hokies tallied 278 yards of offense -- only 86 on the ground -- as they again struggled to put up numbers against a top 25 foe.
In their two games against ranked opponents, including a 34-24 loss to then-No. 5 Alabama on Sept. 5, Virginia Tech has averaged 216.5 yards of offense -- 75.0 on the ground. It gained 605 total yards in a victory over unranked Marshall on Sept. 12.
Taylor's inability to find running room hasn't helped. The junior, who rushed for 738 yards last season -- seventh-best among quarterbacks -- has run for negative yardage in two of the first three games.
The Hokies expect to have senior cornerback Stephan Virgil in the lineup after he missed two games with a bruised left knee. Virgil, who had 31 tackles last season, is looking to help improve a defense that is giving up an uncharacteristic 364.3 total yards per game.
Virginia Tech and Miami have split the last four meetings at Blacksburg, with the Hokies winning the last one, 44-14 in 2007. Miami leads the all-time series 17-9.
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That 80 yard winning TD toss was the result of a broken play by Nebraska as the guy was wide open.
I smell money and it smells green !
I am not playing the Georgia game this week.
South Carolina beating #4 Old Miss last night tells me alot more about this Georgia team.
Looking to watch them against the Arizona team so I can set up some wagers in the coming weeks.
the -12.5 Georgia seems way too high to me but its about time Georgia beat the dog piss out of a team instead of these close back and forth battles.
South Carolina beating #4 Old Miss last night tells me alot more about this Georgia team.
Looking to watch them against the Arizona team so I can set up some wagers in the coming weeks.
the -12.5 Georgia seems way too high to me but its about time Georgia beat the dog piss out of a team instead of these close back and forth battles.
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I bet on miami ats in their bowl game to finish the year, and I have bet on miami in their first two su and ats wins this year. I wasn't the first on their bandwagon but I def saw great potential in them towards the 2nd half last year... but I will NOT be betting on them tomorrow.
Miami is 2-0 to start the year coming off two revenge games where they were not the public choice...now everyone wants to jump on them at v tech as a fave!!?? V tech does not lose at home to good teams... As much as I hate to go against a squad that made me money the past few..... this is the perfect let fown spot for them...and not to mention they beat v tech last year (revenge for v tech now, letdown for miami)
Also miami has lookahead factor in oklahoma next week
Hate to do it but I'm going v tech when majority will probably be on miami.
Gl
Miami is 2-0 to start the year coming off two revenge games where they were not the public choice...now everyone wants to jump on them at v tech as a fave!!?? V tech does not lose at home to good teams... As much as I hate to go against a squad that made me money the past few..... this is the perfect let fown spot for them...and not to mention they beat v tech last year (revenge for v tech now, letdown for miami)
Also miami has lookahead factor in oklahoma next week
Hate to do it but I'm going v tech when majority will probably be on miami.
Gl
This is my biggest play of the week. bought half point early in week and have miami -2 (-120) for $600. I keep comming in here to remind me not to hedge even if line goes to -3. Good luck. Lets do this! I believe!:iagree:
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Sorry for your lost
KOD
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Revenge is not a factor when you have a team that could end up in the National Championship game.
Not only do you have to know when to get off the horse. But you have to know when to stay on ! Sports wagering can be a beetch
GO MIAMI !
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I like your attitude joefrog :00hour
I will make certain to give you your ass back
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I have a strong feeling that Miami is going to beat them by several touchdowns.
Lets do this whats we gots to do !
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Sorry for my loss? The game hasn't even begun yet.
v tech is 15-4-1 ats in its last 20 at home playin teams better than them. Odds are against you my friend. And miami is good but not national championship good..put the kool aid down..
You should worry less about uploading pictures and more about the facts
You are going against a team with a su record of 30-3 at home not to mention winning its last ten at home..and he they don't even have to win tomorrow. They are dogs!!!!
Just tryin to help. Alittle gl
v tech is 15-4-1 ats in its last 20 at home playin teams better than them. Odds are against you my friend. And miami is good but not national championship good..put the kool aid down..
You should worry less about uploading pictures and more about the facts
You are going against a team with a su record of 30-3 at home not to mention winning its last ten at home..and he they don't even have to win tomorrow. They are dogs!!!!
Just tryin to help. Alittle gl
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that was a good one :142smilie
