What a freak and loser. He has 8 kids. Most involved with gangs activity. Per Cowherd, 3 dead and 2 in jail. Yet, he has issues with his grandkids being raised in the presence of his classy, successful gay son. That is all.
Michael Sam's father
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Cie... Once again the press & talking heads at their finest. They have spent the 1st week interviewing pro athletes, coaches, GM's, hot dog vendors & anonymous ( cowards). Now they are onto the 2nd level digging up low life people who have had any contact with this kid. I'm sure they will come up with some ex-lover so he can claim his 1 minute to fame. I hope this ends well for this kid who has worked so hard to get to the professional level but my gut is the press will not stop.
Freak and a loser? You're being pretty hard on the guy based on what you've heard thru the media. He was open and honest and you call him a loser for it. I would rather him react this way than lie like I'm sure a lot of the NFL guys have so far. There's a good chance that he's never been around a gay person and has a thoughts that unfortunately aren't true about the lifestyle.
We all have our own thoughts based on what we've been thru in life. It doesn't make him wrong, just uneducated which is ok. What wouldn't be ok is if he knew about this, had time to grow and learn with his son and then said it.
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The dad is a complete fucking loser. Had 8 kids, left them, didn't provide for them.
He is a pathetic cunt, irrespective of his opinion on gays.
I say good luck to the kid. Hope the father dies a painful lonely death for being such a child abuser.
The dad is a complete fucking loser. Had 8 kids, left them, didn't provide for them.
He is a pathetic cunt, irrespective of his opinion on gays.
I say good luck to the kid. Hope the father dies a painful lonely death for being such a child abuser.
Keep in mind that you are defending this guy -
He has 8 kids. Most involved with gangs activity. Per Cowherd, 3 dead and 2 in jail.
I know about the siblings but don't know the rest about his father. I know he and the mother were married twice. I have no clue about providing for the kids. If he didn't provide for them then yes he is a loser. For having an honest thought about his son being gay, not a loser.
I'm defending him saying something about how he felt at the moment his son told him he was gay. He didn't lie about it. It was hard on him and he voiced that. He also voiced to his son that he still loved him.
His mother also had the same 8 kids, doesn't make her a bad mom.
I know a lot of good fathers that are older that would have the same reaction. They may not say it to anyone but they would feel that way. That doesn't make them losers. My business partner told his father and his father wouldn't speak to him for weeks. Wouldn't take his phone calls and wouldn't speak to him when he went to their house. That was 12 years ago. Today my business partner is in the process of adopting a kid and there is nobody trying to help him more than his father. Yes, he didn't react well in the beginning but he got over it.
I just get tired of the press taking things and running with it. Emotions in the moment are tough enough without having to worry about how everyone else will react.
If his honest thought is he doesn't want his grandkids raised around a clean cut gay male, but is ok with his grandkids raised around gang-related violence, then I see him as a loser. Like the overwhelming majority of American males in their 60's, my own father would have a fit if I were gay. My guess is he would never speak with me again. I mean that. He, like Sam's father, would have concerns about my children being raised around, much less by, a gay male. I do not consider my dad a loser and freak. Of course, my father did not sire 8 kids into a violent, impoverished situation. Plus, my staunchly conservative dad would agree that a successful and thoughtful gay male would be a better role model to children than gangbangers.
I really can't comment on this because in the interviews he never said that he was ok with the gang related stuff. I'll take a wild guess and say that if he had his preference he wouldn't want any of his grandkids to be raised in a gang related environment. Of course I could be wrong on that and he may think it's ok.
If he is a responsible individual who had issues with the environment his own kids were being raised in, then chances are he would have stopped having kids somewhere before #8.
I like Donte Stallworth's tweets on Sam. Although it doesn't regard his father and he also has had his own issues, obviously.
As for deceased Hall of Famers rolling over in their graves who gives a fuck. Let them roll over. Did they when dogs were being killed and women beaten? Jesus. :facepalm:
As for deceased Hall of Famers rolling over in their graves who gives a fuck. Let them roll over. Did they when dogs were being killed and women beaten? Jesus. :facepalm:
This is an interesting and sad thought. Not cause it makes your dad a bad guy, but just the thought that the majority of gay people who are about 30-40 years old had a father that threw a fit or doesn't speak to them anymore.
I like to hope that it's probably less than 50%, and I know the generation that we are recruiting now isn't facing the same rate of rejection. :0008
its more of a product of age and where you are brought up ... I am 53 and grew up in Alabama ... I saw and lived thru all the racial issues ... I never knew a gay person until I was 25 and had moved to Nashville
my father was definitely in the minority as he taught me to judge every person individually no matter skin color, nationality, sex, etc as how do you "hate" someone that you have never met and do not know?
Racial and sexual bigotry is still VERY prominent in the south especially with the 50+ crowd as that is how they were brought up or what their parents believed in
I think same sex marriages should be allowed as to how does someone's happiness affect anyone else? Or be as miserable as "traditional" marriages :mj07:
I think it has to change
one issue I have is when gay couples adopt children.
it seems unfair to the children put in this situation to try to figure out such complicated matters
at such young ages.
My only view on this is based on supply in demand. If there are more kids needing adoption than straight couples willing to adopt, then I think gay adoption is a no-brainer.
My guess is two loving parents is always better than foster care.
Beyond that I won't argue with your concern, because I just don't have enough information about how gay adoptions work out.
