Michael Vick.......Oh What a Guy

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Ok, next step on the inference slippery slope analogy.

Do you eat meat?

I don't hunt, but I eat meat. Don't even kill spiders or moths anymore, but fawk mosquitoes, smack them every time. These are domesticated animals, "Man's best friend" he did this to. Still would like to see the post above I wrote done to his "domesticated person".

Sorry, I have owned 2 of the sweetest and loving pit bulls (still have one) and this is close to my heart. Call me a pitty homer.

There are no bad dogs, just bad owners!
 
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While not an over the top dog lover and absolutely hate it when people call their pets their kids.

I agree that Vick should have been given more time, however he did his ordered debt to society so I say move on, hell Leonard Little killed a PERSON and was allowed back into the NFL.

Yikes, I think I sort of just agreed with YUCKS, but dont think race has anything to do with it.

However, how many of you DOG LOVERS hunt and kill other defenseless animals. Do these animals not feel the same pain??

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You guys are ridiculous. Going crazy over a dog, but would you go that crazy over a cat, a bird, a moose, a deer, rabbit, etc?

I don't agree with what he did, but you guys act like he went around on a human killing spree. He served his fucking time, GET THE FUCK OVER IT. Race does too have some to do with it. If it was Tom Brady(who happens to have cheated on his ex-gf) or Derek Jeter who's known as a man whore, you guys wouldn't be STILL BRINGING IT UP. You guys wanna put those guys into god like categories, yet they're pieces of shit in their own rights and areas.

Hedman, hit the nail on the head. Oh, and I don't wanna hear the "hunt for food" bullshit and you don't do it for entertainment and enjoyment. Lets get real.

Call me names, attack me all you want, but at the end of the day, I'm still right, and that's all that matters. Those animals are just as defenseless, if not more defenseless then killing those dogs.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
 

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You guys are ridiculous. Going crazy over a dog, but would you go that crazy over a cat, a bird, a moose, a deer, rabbit, etc?

I don't agree with what he did, but you guys act like he went around on a human killing spree. He served his fucking time, GET THE FUCK OVER IT. Race does too have some to do with it. If it was Tom Brady(who happens to have cheated on his ex-gf) or Derek Jeter who's known as a man whore, you guys wouldn't be STILL BRINGING IT UP. You guys wanna put those guys into god like categories, yet they're pieces of shit in their own rights and areas.

Hedman, hit the nail on the head. Oh, and I don't wanna hear the "hunt for food" bullshit and you don't do it for entertainment and enjoyment. Lets get real.

Call me names, attack me all you want, but at the end of the day, I'm still right, and that's all that matters. Those animals are just as defenseless, if not more defenseless then killing those dogs.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.


torturing domesticated animals is not a "mistake"...people need to see pictures of the "bait" animals these psycopaths use to train their dogs...
 

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torturing domesticated animals is not a "mistake"...people need to see pictures of the "bait" animals these psycopaths use to train their dogs...

It's the way of life for those people down that way. I'm not making an excuse of him or any of them, but when you grow up around it, it happens. You guys are acting like because he did it, he can't be against it or "cured" so to speak. He made a MISTAKE whether you want to word it that way or not, it was a MISTAKE, and he has CLEARLY learned from it. MOVE THE FUCK ON.

Does Aaron Rodgers serve the same amount of jail time as Vick did? HELL FUCKING NO, 0 DAYS IN JAIL, HEFTY FINE, WTF DUDE?
 
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It's the way of life for those people down that way. I'm not making an excuse of him or any of them, but when you grow up around it, it happens. You guys are acting like because he did it, he can't be against it or "cured" so to speak. He made a MISTAKE whether you want to word it that way or not, it was a MISTAKE, and he has CLEARLY learned from it. MOVE THE FUCK ON.

Does Aaron Rodgers serve the same amount of jail time as Vick did? HELL FUCKING NO, 0 DAYS IN JAIL, HEFTY FINE, WTF DUDE?

i draw the line at conduct that is specifically intended to be cruel, to torture, to take joy in pain....whether that pain is human or animal is largely irrelevant,imo... there is, after all, a reason every serial killer in history started with the neighborhood pet population...

being a "person" doesn`t exempt him...personally, i?d be embarrassed to support him, in any endeavor. there are bad people.... and he?s one of them....
 
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I think more shunning and endless outrage should be leveled against athletes who engage in spousal abuse or drunk driving. :shrug:

Or at least the same about of outrage.

As for liking or supporting him; it's pretty easy to dislike him, can't argue with that.

As for the length of his sentence. I hear people saying 15 years? or being killed by pitbulls etc. If that is the range for dog killing, then pretty much every single violent crime against humans should be life sentences. That could get tricky. Humans commit a lot of crime, and we simply can't function as a society with that sort of prison population.

So we have to basically deal with the fact that a lot of humans are stupid, evil or at times both. And they are amongst us. :scared
 

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I think more shunning and endless outrage should be leveled against athletes who engage in spousal abuse or drunk driving. :shrug:

Or at least the same about of outrage.

As for liking or supporting him; it's pretty easy to dislike him, can't argue with that.

As for the length of his sentence. I hear people saying 15 years? or being killed by pitbulls etc. If that is the range for dog killing, then pretty much every single violent crime against humans should be life sentences. That could get tricky. Humans commit a lot of crime, and we simply can't function as a society with that sort of prison population.

So we have to basically deal with the fact that a lot of humans are stupid, evil or at times both. And they are amongst us. :scared

would this be considered a "hate" crime?....or can you only "hate" on minorities and special interest groups?...

you know you get an extra kick in the ass if the thought police think they know why you committed a crime....

i`d say that this was pretty hateful by any stabdard....not to mention premeditated....

it`s not like he turned himself in after an epiphany....he got caught...otherwise it would probably still be going on...
 

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You guys are ridiculous. Going crazy over a dog, but would you go that crazy over a cat, a bird, a moose, a deer, rabbit, etc?

I don't agree with what he did, but you guys act like he went around on a human killing spree. He served his fucking time, GET THE FUCK OVER IT. Race does too have some to do with it. If it was Tom Brady(who happens to have cheated on his ex-gf) or Derek Jeter who's known as a man whore, you guys wouldn't be STILL BRINGING IT UP. You guys wanna put those guys into god like categories, yet they're pieces of shit in their own rights and areas.

Hedman, hit the nail on the head. Oh, and I don't wanna hear the "hunt for food" bullshit and you don't do it for entertainment and enjoyment. Lets get real.

Call me names, attack me all you want, but at the end of the day, I'm still right, and that's all that matters. Those animals are just as defenseless, if not more defenseless then killing those dogs.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

I bet Brady never killed an innocent dog as torture like Sicko Vicko, I think Vick should still be in jail :sadwave:

how would you like your pet dog taken out of your backyard and used as a training device for these pit bulls that are bred to fight, I bet your attitude would change really fast, Vick is scum of the earth, he just happens to run a 4.25 40 yard dash and able to throw a football
 

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would this be considered a "hate" crime?....or can you only "hate" on minorities and special interest groups?...

you know you get an extra kick in the ass if the thought police think they know why you committed a crime....

i`d say that this was pretty hateful by any stabdard....not to mention premeditated....

it`s not like he turned himself in after an epiphany....he got caught...otherwise it would probably still be going on...
I don't believe in hate crimes, and I'm uncomfortable enough playing devils advocate on his behalf that I am not going to counter anyone's solid points about what a bad guy he is. But I still standby what I said. :0008
 

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I don't believe in hate crimes, and I'm uncomfortable enough playing devils advocate on his behalf that I am not going to counter anyone's solid points about what a bad guy he is. But I still standby what I said. :0008

even though we disagree,i still love ya`....i don`t think that vick deserves having a fine fellow like yourself even "sort of" defending him...

but,that`s me....:toast: :D
 

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I bet Brady never killed an innocent dog as torture like Sicko Vicko, I think Vick should still be in jail :sadwave:

how would you like your pet dog taken out of your backyard and used as a training device for these pit bulls that are bred to fight, I bet your attitude would change really fast, Vick is scum of the earth, he just happens to run a 4.25 40 yard dash and able to throw a football

How do you know he didn't? There are athletes always doing shit that when you hear about it you are shocked because you didn't expect it. VICK was in jail and served his time. Jail time for killing dogs, no jail time for killing defenseless animals for "food." - Hunters hunt for the "sport" and "excitement." I work with a lot of hunters, and I've never heard them once mention having to go hunt because they NEED food.

I wouldn't like it if it happened to my pet, dog, cat, whatever. However, I can be rational. I wouldn't ask for the dude to go to fucking prison over it, jesus christ.
 
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