Mlb Plays Sunday July 21

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Yesterday: 2-3-1 (-1.25 Units)

SEASON: 194-149 (+34.45 UNITS)
Sides: 137-113 (+14.15 Units)
Totals: 57-36 (+20.3 Units)
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Playing 3 games today:

UNDER 8.5 FLORIDA +105 (1 UNIT)
METS -115 (1 UNIT)
PITTSBURGH +100 (1 UNIT)


Call me crazy....but I do like both the Mets and Pittsburgh to sweep the series :)

Good luck in all your plays today.

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gl tomorrow! hope reds come thru not for your sake but mine (fan) but i do believe pittsburgh looks really good tommorrow!
1st of all st.louis should be a public play to avoid the sweep!
2nd all the betors who are down will be looking at that 1 game that should be easy and a team to avoid the sweep! believe you are definitely on the right side there! gl!
 

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Thanks Mize. Good luck to you!

UNDER 8.5 FLORIDA:

Really like this Under today for a few reasons. I think it?s a little deceptive if you look at the pitchers ERA?s and MBA?s over the last 3 games, which are rather high.

However if you go ahead and look at the pitchers in this one, Josh Beckett is getting the start for the Marlins and don?t let his past few games fool ya. This guy had that real bad outing vs the Reds on May 29th (the game that he was tipping his pitches) plus left early in the next outing with the blisters that have been nagging him the whole season. Then went on the DL and was out about 6 weeks. Finally came back and but had to face the red hot NY Mets team that has just been on a tear offensively. In that game, he gave up a couple of homers and a bases loaded triple, but still only gave up 5 hits in the five innings. It just happened to be very timely hitting. Also throw in the fact that it was his 1st start in a month and a half, I think Beckett?s gonna be much sharper in this one.

Even with the rocking by the Reds before his DL stint and last outing vs the Mets, he is still only allowing a a .218 average to hitters this season and a very low on base percentage of .289! He?s had a lot of problems this season with those blisters, so it just shows how good this guy is with those low averages for the season.

Beckett will be getting some more relief going from the hot hitting Mets team to the Montreal Expos who are dismal on the road. Montreal vs righties on the road this season are averaging just 3.9 runs per game and hitting just .244 on the road vs righties. The average vs righties may be a little higher over the last 10 games, but remember 8 of those games were at home for Montreal.

Armas gets the start for the Expos, and there are a couple negatives for him as far as his ERA on the road goes which over his career is about a run higher on the road. This year however it is pretty close to the same which is a plus.

Armas had a very impressive streak of 5 straight game where he did not allow more than 2 runs in a game before running into the Hot Atlanta Braves team in 2 straight starts which he did allow some runs and also gave up 5 runs to Philly the last time out, but in that game he did walk 5 getting no help whatsoever with the Home Umpire in that game which was Lance Barksdale. Barksdale has had a pretty tight strikezone this season.

Expect Armas to have a pretty easy time with this Florida team that has really struggled since the All-Star break. Since the break, Florida is averaging just 2.8 runs per game and is also hitting just .214 vs righties last 10 days (not counting Sat.)

Of course a big key in this one will be Florida?s lineup vs Armas. Florida lost another left handed bat when they traded Floyd to Montreal and this means there is a good chance Florida will only have 2 left handed bats in the lineup today with Castillo and Fox. What?s key about this you ask?.well Armas is only allowing an unbelievable .153 average to righties this season :eek: :eek: A huge help to this Under today.

Probable righties in the lineup today:

Eric Owens
Preston Wilson
Mike Lowell
Derreck Lee
Juan Encarnacion
Charles Johnson
Josh Beckett

Of course the Home Umpire in this game will be Brian Onora. Onora has had a very large strikezone over the past couple of seasons. This year 12 of the 19 games have gone Under the total. Onora is calling strikes at a very high 64.3% this season which is huge considering the average is just around 62%. So far Onora has been the Home Ump in 20 games this season and those games are averaging a very low 8 runs per game.

Of course you?re always taking a chance with these 2 bullpens when you have the Under bet, but I think the starters will give you close to 7 innings today plus you gotta feel the Ump will be beneficial to the relievers as well. Just think this one stays under the number.....we?ll see.

Good Luck :thumb:

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Pittsburgh +100:

Just thought I'd point out a couple of things in this game....I know it's tough for any team to sweep, but I like the chances here.

Just don't think it's a good situation for Finley in this game. Lot of things look like they won't be in his favor:

First off, I don't think the Home Ump matches up well with him. Finley is not as dominate as he used to be several years ago, and if he doesn't get a favorable Ump, it really affects him. Home Ump is Barrett in this one who has gone 'under' 13 of 20 this season, but don't let those numbers fool ya. He does have a smaller than average strikezone as evidence of his 61.1% strike calling.

If you look at Finley the past 2 starts with Barrett behind the Plate(not going farther back than that,,cause his other 2 starts were in 1998 which is 4 years ago when Finley didn't need the help as much):

10/11/01....He pitched on the road going 4.1 innings, giving up 5 earned runs and walking 2.

5/12/01...He pitched at home going 7 innings not allowing a run on 7 hits, but this game was vs Tampa Bay and at home which leads me to my next thing not favorable for Finley.

Finley is on the road and has always been worse away. His career ERA on the road is over a full run higher than his career ERA at home: ;)

Finley career at home: 105-70 with a 3.33 ERA
Finley career on the road: 86-98 with a 4.45 ERA

This season it's no different ...actually worse:

Finley at home this season: 3-4 with a 3.86 ERA
Finley on the road this season: 1-7 with a 5.05 ERA

So basically we have what I consider a bad Ump matchup, combined with being on the road along with the added pressure of making his 1st start for his new team.....Oh did I mention Pittsburgh's been on a tear since the All-Star Break?

Pittsburgh has been averaging a whopping 7 runs per game since the break including 27 runs the past 2 games vs St Louis and worst of all for Finley....Pittsburgh over the last 10 games is hitting a whopping .342 vs lefties :eek: Doesn't help in my opinion either when Finley has only pitched one game since July 4th and with all the runs Pitts been putting up, the Cardinals pen might be a little shaky.

Also, an interesting note with Josh Fogg is the fact in his first outing vs St Louis this season he got rocked for 7 runs off 8 hits in just 4.1 innings. Then he got to face them again just 5 days later and pitched brilliantly...going 6.1 innings, only giving up 1 run off 4 hits. This shows me he possibly did some homework after that first rocking and it paid off....believe you'll see a solid effort again today.

Well that's the basis for this play. More I guess a play against Finley, but I think the Pirates are just as motivated to sweep this series as the Cards are to avoid the sweep. I'll take the hot Pirate bats in this one.

Good luck :thumb:

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Great to have you back man:)

I like 2 of your plays. But I don't think the Mets are going to sweep the reds. Eventhough the Reds don't have a good record at home. Also Al Leiter isn't has good has people think he is. The reds are 7-10 vs LHP but the Mets are 37-39 vs RHP, so that cancels that out.

Also Al Leiter is 53-63 when away(73-34 home). He is 38-41 on day games(88-56 night games). Lifetime vs Reds he is only 6-6. True Elmer Dessens numbers aren't good either but leiter has played 158 more games has well. I think the Reds will be more focused because they have a chance to take the divison plus there at home.
 

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Thanks trademaster.

And I appreciate your posting your take on the game! But I'm gotta respectfully disagree with a couple of your comments:

Eventhough the Reds don't have a good record at home. Also Al Leiter isn't has good has people think he is. The reds are 7-10 vs LHP but the Mets are 37-39 vs RHP, so that cancels that out.

Totally disagree here. I bet against Leiter 4 times this year and hit 3 of those. Just so happens all of those games I bet against him were when he faces Florida, who simply OWN HIM. If you take away the last game he pitched which happened to be against Florida, he went 7 straight games where he did not allow more than 2 earned runs :eek:

As far as cancelling the lefty-righty thing out....NO CAN DO. Cincy is hitting only .244 vs lefties for the season and it's not much better over the last 10 games at .256

The Mets on the other hand are a team that is going full steam ahead offensively, and are averaging .270 vs righties for the season and a whopping .331 over their last 10 games vs righties. The Mets have finally begun scoring like everyone thought they would early in the season.

Throw in the fact that the Reds have not seen Leiter yet this season, it could be more difficult for them.



Also Al Leiter is 53-63 when away(73-34 home). He is 38-41 on day games(88-56 night games). Lifetime vs Reds he is only 6-6. True Elmer Dessens numbers aren't good either but leiter has played 158 more games has well. I think the Reds will be more focused because they have a chance to take the divison plus there at home.

You are correct on the home/away and day/night stuff which is a negative for the Leiter in this one, but as far as not being able to pitch well vs this Reds team, I gotta disagree. Most the damage was done to Leiter from players not even on the team anymore. I went back through the 2000 season:

4/25/00.....all the damage was done by Reese, Young, Santiago, Dawkins, Lewis

8/2/00......Pitched a gem only giving up 1 run, off 4 hits in 7 innings while striking out 8.

9/4/00.....all the damage was done by Reese, Griffey, Santiago.

4/14/01....pitched a gem only giving up 1 earned run in 8 innings, striking out 8 and walking 0.

4/20/01......got rocked, but very excusable considering if you look at the dates, this was just 6 days after that last game and the Cincy hitters had a big edge over him.

What I'm trying to say is the career mark vs the Reds is deceptive and it shows if you take a look at the averages of the current Reds hitters vs Leiter....THEY'RE NOT VERY GOOD.

It'll be interesting.....just think the Mets are really clicking and have the advantage in this one......we'll see.


Again good luck.

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Well I am not going to argue with your facts because you are correct & you know more about baseball then I will ever know. But everytime you bet on him was against the marlins who by the way stink. My gut still says reds but I won't bet has high because you say mets(i value your picks very much).

What are your thoughts on the Expos+115 & Red Sox +165? I am pretty sure Red Sox are going to win they have the better picther(I am aware that burkett is 0-6 against the yanks) plus they play better in the daytime & road then yanks. Plus the +165 makes the deal sweeter.

Only reason i like expos are because a. marlins suck b. can't see them being swept with there playoff hopes still alive c. lets be serious the season for the marlins is over.
 

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Mets bats are hot. And they are making a run with Montreal losing. Also they are on a winning run. Makes a huge difference in the attitude of the players.

I agree with all the picks Pete.

Cheers and good luck as always
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Good luck today Pete unfortunately agree on Mets (as I said in another thread the Reds beat the bad teams and lose series to the good teams, Pirates would have swept the last seriesif not for Larue's G/Slam)

Montreal bats are off, I was on the wrong side of the total last night when a lot of the factors looked really good.

Finley has not impressed me that much this year and the new team may hurt his focus.

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Geno ..

were u on the reds yesterday also .. sorry to go against ur reds man .. but they sux at home in recent times.

Florida/Montreal past stats useless. These two teams going into a funk.

Hope we get the Under today. And I agree about Finley.
 

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Thought I was crazy last yesterday took Pitt ,Florida,Twins, and the Angles and parlayed them.Guess what gonna try it again today :D Good Luck
 

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I think Piazza not playin is really goin to hurt ..

this Wilson catcher is horrible ..

with man on first and third he grounds out ..

then has a throwin error to advance runner to third .. :mad:
 
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