Mlb Plays Tuesday July 2

ndnfan

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Yesterday 1-1 (+0 Units)

SEASON 170-125 (+37.6 UNITS)
Sides: 120-97 (+15.25 Units)
Totals: 50-28 (+22.35 Units)
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Playing just 2 games today:

OVER 8.5 FLORIDA -105 (1 UNIT)
MONTREAL +120 (1 UNIT)

Will try to get some write-ups posted on my reasoning for these some time today.

Good luck in all your plays today :D

-ndnfan
 

Eugene Michaels

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ndfan,

First of all, GREAT work so far! You are a coattailers dream.

As for tonight's games, I am with you on the Florida Over, but have to disagree on Cleveland. In fact, I was able to get Atlanta at -125, so I assume you got that +120 pretty early in the day. I just think that having Colon on the mound actually shifts the value here to the Atlanata side, as I am getting the hottest team in baseball (won 5 in a row and 11 out of 12) at just -125 at home. This red-hot Atlanta club already beat the best pitcher in the AL this year (Lowe) over the weekend, so they will not be intimdated by Colon. Also, it remains to be seen how all the exctra days off that Colon has had will effect his sharpness.


Good luck.
 

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ndnfan

ndnfan

I too have found your picks to be a great coat tailing experience. I also find great value from Eugene's comments as well.
However, I am on Montreal tonight as a result of the lack of familiarity (sp) the Braves might have against Colon. Many times you'll see an unknown pitcher come into the league or come up from AAA, and the first time out, the hitters seem to have more trouble since they're not familiar with the pitcher.
Colon is not unknown obviously, but i'm banking on this lack of knowledge on the part of Atlanta to give him the edge. Just my 2 cents.
GLTA
 

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Thanks everyone....been spinning wheels not getting anywhere lately...hopefully some $$ tonight.



OVER 8.5 CUBS-MARLINS -105:

I'm seeing this total at upwards of 8.5 +112 right now.....almost half-tempted to hit it again, but just decided to stay with the normal money-management plan and stick with the 1 unit on the game.

Really love this over though. I guess you look at the starters and it appears like it could be a pitchers dual, but here's what I'm seeing in this one:

I think both pitchers might get hit pretty hard which would only allow even more runs with the shaky bullpens.

Something I've been paying attention to with Lieber when I seen this early in the season is how bad the guy is piching at NIGHT. I don't know if he thinks about it too much or what, but this guy has been like this his entire career.

Lieber in Day games: 42-26 with a 3.28 ERA
Lieber in Night games: 44-53 with a 4.86 ERA

Unbelievable, and this is holding form again this season:

Lieber in Day games: 6-1 with a 2.53 ERA
Lieber in Night games: 0-3 with a 4.39 ERA

Of course Lieber has always had problems with lefty hitters over his career allowing a career .307 average to them. This season is no different allowing a .303 average to the lefty batters.

Florida doesn't have too many left-handed bats in the lineup, but the first 2 in the lineup (Castillo, Fox) are lefties and this doesn't match up well with Lieber who this season is allowing the first 2 batters in the lineup to hit .327 and .373 :eek: Of course the first couple in the batting order are the table setters for some of the big guns in the Florida lineup such as Cliff Floyd and the rest of the lineup that has hit Lieber very well in the past. Check out some of the career averages of the Marlins vs Lieber:

Luis Castillo .400
Cliff Floyd .282
Charles Johnson .400
Derrek Lee .500
Mike Lowell .333
Kevin Millar .462
Preston Wilson .294

These numbers aren't just over a few at-bats either. These 7 players are hitting a combined .365 career off Lieber (50 hits in 137 at bats)


As far as Penny for Florida, he's been on the DL since May 18 with right biceps inflammation and is definately gonna be on a pitch count. He even had to leave a rehap start 2 starts ago after 3 innings when developing one of those "contageous" blisters on his thowing hand! And although he has pitched well in the rehab starts, he still only threw 3 innings and 4.2 innings the past 2 plus it was at Single A, so I don't think you'll see too many innings from Penny tonight, plus he may not have his arm strenth where it normally is.

With that being said, the Cubs have shown an indication that they will not have many problems hitting Penny tonight. The Cubs players do not have very many career at bats vs Penny, but here are some of the career numbers vs him:

Alou .667
Girardi 1.000
Hundley .667
McGriff .429
Sosa .333

Like I said these are numbers with very few at bats, but if they hit him that good in the past, I don't think they'll have a problem now when his arm strength probably isn't 100%.

Of course the bullpens may factor in this one....maybe early for both teams. Nonetheless, both pens have been pathetic of late. Check out the numbers over the last 10 games:

Cubs Pen over the last 10 games has an ERA of 7.27
Florida's Pen over the last 10 games has an ERA of 5.29

Also, the last I looked it was raining, which can only help in the OVER with the bullpens how they are.

I don't hardly ever look at trends when capping, but I did notice some trends that support the Over in this one:

The last 4 meetings have played over.
The over is 6-1 in Penny's last 7 starts.
The Over is 8-2-1 in Cubs last 11 overall.
The over is 10-3 when the wind is blowing at 0-10 MPH at ProPlayer Stadium.

Like I said, I don't really know why the money is pouring in on the Under in this one.....Could be with the Umpire Timmons behind the plate who has a larger strikezone, but there's enough stuff that over power the Ump angle. Looked like a bargain at -105, Like it even more at the plus number. We'll see what happens.

Good luck :thumb:
 

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Excellent write up as usual ndnfan. I think you have the right idea in not doubling up on plays no matter how strong they are and stay with your one unit per play. BUT I just thought I would mention that canbet has the line at 8 with the over at +100. Wasn't going to play this myself but now that it is at even $ to take it at over 8. I am hoping there is room for one more on your bandwagon for tonite. :)
 

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TK in VA....

With Colon this season, it's really seemed like he's improved on his "no messing around" with getting the hitters out. Just like you get with pitchers like Clemens or Pedro. In past years he would get ahead in the count and end up walking alot of batters after having the hitters down say 0-2 or 1-2, but this season has been much different.

Also, if you've ever followed Colon much in the past, he's a guy that sometimes would put in a mediocre at best performance when not facing a good team or a good pitcher....then when he faced another ace pitcher or a top team, he would be just spectacular. What i'm saying is the guy really gets himself up for the big games. I'm looking at this as a big game for him. Going against the Braves, plus being the first start for his new team, he's gonna be pumped!!

I really don't think you need to worry about the bullpen too much in this one. Even though both pen's have been doing an awesome job lately, the Expos pen has been shaky at times this year. Colon is a workhorse and expect him to go deep into this one.

Also, I think the Ump benefits Colon more in this one. Colon has pitched twice with Randazzo as the Ump and has 13 strikeouts in 12 innings. Moss has pitched once and did not fair too well...walking 5 and only striking out 3 in 6.2 innings allowing 5 runs. I think the one time Moss faced the Expos this year he pitched pretty decent only giving up 2 runs in 5 innings. But the Expos will have a better idea with him, plus you throw in the fact that the Expos are a team that will work a pitcher and draw some walks, it might be enough of an edge in this one.

A lot of times with Umps that have the larger strikezones....it helps the control pitchers a hell of a lot more than pitchers that have a tendency to occasionally have control problems....which is something that a lot of people don't understand...but think about this and it'll make sense. The opposite is true much of the time with Umps that have tight zones....the wilder pitchers will fair better alot of times, just for the reason their stuff is better and they're not relying on the control and hitting their corners as much.

I think the line is a gift to tell you the truth. Lot's of value!!

GL
 

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just keep stupid slow ass Galaragga from getting thrown out on the bases...

i swear he gets caught stealing or trying to score on doubles or singles all the time

someone should let him know that he is very slow and that he runs like he has a piano on his back, seriously

expos have been killing me, gagging every game

cordero really killed them last night

it still could've easily been 6-6 in the top 9, but they just blew it
and everyone who 'chalked it up' with glavine got rewarded, undeserving, imo

good luck
 

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Eugene Michaels...actually the line opened at some places at Atlanta -140 Montreal +130...I got it in at around midnight last night.

Anyways, I respect your opinion as I do everyone's, but I did notice you always mention about the teams standings, and use that in your capping? No disrespect, cause i know everyone caps games differently, but I rarely even look at what place a team is in or what a team is ranked in say football when capping games.....that kind of stuff is built into the lines anyways...so I really don't pay too much attention to it.....I do a lot of matching up with everyone and try to see how the game'll play out above the normal stat stuff. As far as intimidation? I don't think to many players are intimidated of pitchers unless say it's a randy johnson, or maybe psyched out by a Pedro, but I think Atlant has a good chance to just simply struggle with the stuff Colon brings.


But GL on your plays tonight...appreciate the comments.

-ndnfan
 
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Just Wishing You Good Luck Tonight
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I hope I didn't Jinx Us Thanks Buddy..Talk to you Later..


EASY MONEY..I hope We can get on the Right Track Tonight..:Yep: :Yep:
 

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Agree on the Over for Florida Game.

Good luck on others .. Not yet looked at Atlanta game .. 2 much work but hey it pays the bills :D

Cheers !!!
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good luck ndnfan, i'll be interested to see colon's stats with montreal for the rest of the year...lots of guys in the NL that havent seen that stuff in person plus no dh and some weak 8 hole hitters...
 

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NDFAN, you have an enormous amount of information in your threads and I thank you for passing that along to us. It certainly is helpful. Even when I don't agree with your picks I enjoy reading about them and I can see that you do your homework before selecting a game.
Keep 'em coming pal.
 
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