Mom sues Coors over son's death in accident

[saint]

Great retort.

Why don't we go after dentists pushing flouride?

Because there are mounds of research proving that fluoride exposure at the levels it is in drinking water and school supplement programs have no ill-effects. On the contrary, there is ZERO reputable, valid research proving fluoride causes any of the problems the anti-F people claim.

Dr. Freeze has provided you with actual research that supports the charring of meat and an increased incidence of cancer. So, there is a significant difference between your sarcasm and his answer. (But wait, that might have required you to think a little)

And by the way, people have tried, and failed, going after dentists for fluoride and amalgam.

 

[yyz]

saint,

I couldn't give two shits about the flouride debate, I only tossed it in here because the DDS tossed in the meat bullshit. His posts in this thread completely disregard what my response to the thread was about. (Since it was me whom he quoted, I took the liberty to respond.)

He turned this into a lawyer bashing, and rally cry post, not me.


But, while we are talking about flouride now, and how "safe" it is, why does every tube of toothpaste made have a warning about swallowing their product?

I'd look up the answer, but that would require me to think a little.

 

[dr. freeze]

looks to me like this thread was about lawsuits, and a particular trial lawyer warranted my response.......

so i went with it

the yyz viewpoint goes hand in hand with the view that people are not responsible for their actions and that blame can always be tossed on something else.....your parents must have never said to you "if Johnny jumps over the cliff, will you do the same?" after you insisted that Johnny got to go to stay out past your curfew......

if you are insistent on turning our citizenry into mindless sheep following the government continue on with your viewpoints....let lawyers sue against anything that counters utopia for all and let the government dictate what our ears can hear and what our eyes can see

 

[NickiD]

I gotta agree with Turf on this one......we live in a society where noone takes responsibility for thier own actions anymore....


Why doesn't she just sue Detroit for making the vehicle that the drunk drove? Obviously they know that someone is going to drive that specific vehicle in the commission of a crime....

A kid that went to my college drove underage and he lived but his girlfriend died. (they were both drunk)

HER Mom sued the bar owner (you can get in at 18 but the kid admitted they had someone else buy their drinks)

and the car company.....

The sad thing was is the mother had kicked the girl out years ago and hadn't spoken to her and was now trying to cash in..

They were on Oprah: the bar owner, mother, and the boyfriend -

Even though the boy made a horrible mistake he took responsibility for his actions and he truly grieved for the girl.

:nooo:

 

[TBONEZ0295]

**** that, I hate people like this, your son drank, he knows the ****ing consequences, and then he goes to drive, **** em, and **** her, sorry bitch but thats what you get..Shit he could of been on the road and killed others, JESUS!

WOW now that post has to be awarded the most coldest thing I have ever read around here...............

****him = he's dead
****her= she's a mother who lost her son

sorry bitch thats what you get ????? = and why would it be her fault now.....Thats what she gets???? You are one sick man!!!!!

Shit he could of been on the road and killed others JESUS!!!!!!!!!= but he didn't, he killed himself :shrug: I am hoping your just having a bad day or have a personal story for these comments because YOU ARE ONE COLD MF

sounds to me like your blaming the mother???? Now isn't that quite stupid??Its would be pretty obvious to me you do not have children or if you do they are very young , in any case GOOD LUCK you'll need it !!!!!

 

[S-Love]

this took a lot of work to find

ADA Positions & Statements

ADA Statement on FDA Toothpaste Warning Labels



The American Dental Association's (ADA) Council on Scientific Affairs believes that one part of the warning now required on fluoride toothpastes by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) could unnecessarily frighten parents and children, and that the label greatly overstates any demonstrated or potential danger posed by fluoride toothpastes.

The label language, "If you accidentally swallow more than used for brushing, seek professional help or contact a poison control center immediately" is now required on all fluoride toothpastes. But the ADA, in a letter sent to the FDA last year, pointed out that a child could not absorb enough fluoride from toothpaste to cause a serious problem and that the excellent safety record on fluoride toothpaste argues against any unnecessary regulation.

Recent media coverage has focused attention on the safety of fluoride toothpastes, but the coverage has not revealed that the ADA limited the amount of fluoride allowed in ADA-Accepted toothpaste years ago for this reason.

In addition, back in 1991, the ADA began requiring that toothpaste manufacturers include the following language on all ADA-Accepted toothpastes: "Do not swallow. Use only a pea-sized amount for children under six. To prevent swallowing, children under six years of age should be supervised in the use of toothpaste." The new FDA labels are consistent with the ADA statements, with the exception of the poison control warning.

The ADA warning labels were required to help reduce the risk of mild fluorosis, which is a cosmetic defect noticeable as very light spots on permanent teeth and develops only while the teeth are still forming. Fluorosis only occurs when more than the optimal daily amount of fluoride is ingested.

Through its ADA Seal of Acceptance program, the toothpaste manufacturers must submit clinical data to the ADA in order to meet its guidelines on safety and effectiveness. Additionally, all products with the ADA Seal must submit the product's advertising and packaging for review so that consumers and dentists have assurance that the claims the product makes are supported by the clinical data.

 

[yyz]

looks to me like this thread was about lawsuits, and a particular trial lawyer warranted my response.......

so i went with it

That's swell, but again......WTF does that have to do with me saying the company is full of shit saying they don't target the under 21 crowd?


the yyz viewpoint goes hand in hand with the view that people are not responsible for their actions

BULLSHIT! How fuking obtuse are you, that you can take that from what I wrote? If anything, I am saying the manufaturer isn't taking responsibility for their actions. (and I can't go that far.....)

and that blame can always be tossed on something else.....your parents must have never said to you "if Johnny jumps over the cliff, will you do the same?" after you insisted that Johnny got to go to stay out past your curfew......

if you are insistent on turning our citizenry into mindless sheep following the government continue on with your viewpoints....let lawyers sue against anything that counters utopia for all and let the government dictate what our ears can hear and what our eyes can see

If anyone out there knows what this means, please explain it, so the Doctor and I have some fuking clue as to what he is talking about.:shrug:


The best I can tell, he's talking about the blind eye turned away from the dangers of flouride..........

 

[dr. freeze]

you think that an advertising company is responsible for a teenager's actions.....that is ridiculous...

who cares who they target!! why is that such a concern? why can't they have the freedom to say what they want? and if they target a particular audience, why does the government have to step in and be the conscience of America??? why can't the consumer make that decision? i have yet to find anywhere in the constitution where the government should be responsible for censoring advertisements

again if you want our citizenry to turn into blind sheep than go ahead and reinforce such ideology.......you usually get a little less than you expect

side note: sorry i am so obtuse and unable to understand your brilliance...please forgive me

 

[ctownguy]

This whole thread is laughable if you look who is arguing what.

It was only a few days ago that those on the left were bashing bush and his patriot act for taking our rights away and how the repbulicans want to strip all our rights away becasue one dumbass, no make that 2 dumbass republicans want to ban internet gambling.

Now all the same types are arguing that the gov't SHOULD STEP IN and regulate this and ban that and regulate advertising of certain LEGAL PRODUCTS and let the scum of the earth lawyers sue everyone and make a further mockery of our already fu**ed up legal system.

I guess your saying gov regulation is ok when liberals condone it, because as we all know they are the smartest people in the world, just ask eddie and stevie and oh yea the canuck ozball.

 

[yyz]

you think that an advertising company is responsible for a teenager's actions.....that is ridiculous...

AGAIN..........PLEASE tell me how the hell you can read into anything that I wrote, that I hold the advertising agency or Coors responsible for this kids actions? Tell me at what point you saw that? (You CAN'T be reffering to my first post with the sarcasm in it, can you? I give you very little credit, but I guess I should have given you even LESS!)

Now, I know why others get so frustrated trying to have any coversation with you! You have to be a complete dip shit to deduce your sentiments from my post. Are you so blinded with one sided thinking, and trying to be a turd in the punch bowl, that you will do it at any cost?




who cares who they target!! why is that such a concern? why can't they have the freedom to say what they want?

Again, did I say I had a problem with them "targeting" children? No! I said I had a problem with them not admitting that they do it!


again if you want our citizenry to turn into blind sheep (sic)than go ahead and reinforce such ideology

News flash, stud.........Our "citizenry" has been there for decades. Maybe if you opened your peepers instead of relying on internet news sites and chat rooms for your "knowledge", you would grasp things a little better.


side note: sorry i am so obtuse and unable to understand your brilliance...please forgive me


No, I will not. Your ignorance, and blatant stupidity at times, prohibit me from even entertaining the idea.

 

[dr. freeze]

lmao i have probalby more real world experience in the last year than you do in your whole life as you sit behind your computer all day....my ignorance deals with all races and cultures and every spectrum of the economic ladder every day and so hopefully that ignorance isn't as bad as it used to be....yes maybe i am ignorant but the first mistake a fool makes is thinking he is not

i know how people react and i know how they get motivated and i know how and why they are dumbed down from being cradled from the womb to the tomb

get your panties out of your crack and settle down because your anger obviously is out of control....no need to start casting insults if someone misread your thread....your sense of humor is a little different than mine and sometimes simple sarcasm doesn't always humor me especially if i have heard the same joke 1 thousand times

obviously i know that we already have blind sheep but the problem is correctable by unhooking the cord and dr. freeze and others try to do that daily bit by bit and promote such values such as self reliance, independence, and critical thinking and decision making....but when these people are consistently babied and able to play the victim and always blame someone else things go in the wrong direction.....and then their problems and everyone's problems around them are worse....

and the blame rests entirely on those who perpetuate such reliance

 

[Marco]

Whether or not beer companies target children in thier advertising and whether or not they admit to targeting children in thier advertising is irrelevant when judged by the fact that people have to be legal drinking age to be served alcohol.

If no one procures alcohol for minors, minors don't drink.

I personally wouldn't buy alcohol for a minor, anyone that does is opening a can of worms in regards to the potential legal action coming out of that discovery by authorities, or legal action of the consequences arising from the actions taken by the drunken minor.

I find it odd that in a country that allows the legal sale of cigarettes, the advertising of such legal products can be so restricted........

I also find it odd, if not a double standard, that in a country where in most places the legal drinking age is 21, the draft age is 18.......could an 18 year old be on a higher maturity level than a 21 year old when it comes to grabbing an m-16 and fighting a war? I guess when it comes to war, you're fighting and killing foreigners, so send in the 18 year old. The people who are drinking in this country are killing Americans, so we better make sure they are at least 21 to drink, and possibly kill our own.

Cut through the bullshit double standard.....if you're old enough to fight in a war, you're damn well old enough to drink. Raise the draft age or lower the drinking age.

 

[Nosigar]

Dr. Freeze. I agree with you.

On the other hand, you and people like you are the reason why I've never turned into a complete conservative or republican. I consider myself a radical moderate, meaning I want "desperately" for everyone to be so-so.

Don't impose anything on me, nor allow others to impose upon you.

 

[yyz]

It's not anger, Friess.......it's frustration. I feel like I'm working with a mentally challenged kid. You try to explain soemthing to them, but they can only see a simplistic view, and nothing more. If they do see more, they have a hard time conveying it.

I'm glad that filling out public assistance forms with patients, and dealing with insurance companies makes you a cosmopolitan guy.

You stick to teaching people how to brush and floss, and "nicking" a healthy tooth when working on a bad one, to ensure future business, and let the religious leaders and politicians save us from ourselves.