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I've got to get this off my chest. Alll year long I have advised to be very careful about playing anything LAL is involved in. I've watched them throw the better in the well for years and have got caught a few times myself. Yesterday, I had no doubt they would win. Now how do you win and not cover a 2 point line? If the line had been 3, I would have passed. Well, we got a lesson on how it can be done. First, nobody can hit anything until they blow a 9 point lead and get behind. Not even a dunk. Once behind, they can shoot again. If Horry misses the 3 I'm convinced they would have got the rebound and sent the game into ot. Now Horry gets fouled with almost nothing on the clock (that wasn't supposed to happen) and you know he will miss the second on purpose and the game will be over. He misses both on purpose and the Laker bets are down the tubes. One year with the line at 10' I needed 1 point to cover and 2 for the over with a min to go. No way to lose this one. Right? No, wrong again. Horry missed 4 fouls in a row and Fisher 2 and the other team couldn't score and they ran the final 19 seconds off the clock. Both players were shooting over 80% that year. Since that time I can count almost 100 times that similar shit has happened including the last two games. Oh well, now that that is out of the way, let's get down to today.

The Sac game is going to be a pass for me because if there is anyone out there that has a clue as to what will happen they are a lot smarter than I am.

The Det/Tor game appears a little easier. I believe the line dropping a point is not to get Det players but to give Tor players more confidence. In order to understand this game we have to know what went on in the last game. Antonio Davis got 30. Folks I have watched him for 10 years and assure you he won't get anywhere near that tonight. But, I'll be generous and give him 20. He shot 14-19 but the stat to look at is that he only went to the foul line once. Det was giving him his shot and he hit them. Won't happen tonight. Tor shot a blistering 49 point something (almost 50%) for the game and won't do that tonight either. Looking closer at that stat you have to realize that Davis shot over 25% of their shots and hit almost 75%. The rest of the team was below their ave. They won't shoot 95% from the line either. Deduct 10 points from Tor (might even be a few more). The refs weren't calling fouls. Stackhouse went to the line only 3 times and that was the most for any player on either side. Stackhouse only got 10 shots and led the team in assists (4) while going to the line more than anyone in the game. This tells me that Tor was keeping the ball away from him and doubling him as soon as he touched it. Turnovers killed Det sinced their shooting % was above ave. Since I didn't get a chance to see the game, I'll bet there were some no-calls connected with those turn-overs. Stackhouse won't go 2-10 tonight and it seems reasonable to assume he will get over 20. Give Det an extra 10 (should be more). Now, as I've said the last two games, Tor has to have 85 or more to have a chance to win. Look for another controled up-tempo game from Tor. I think Det and over can be no worse than a push.
 

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In the same boat

In the same boat

Just like your frustration with the Lakers( I happened to be on the right side in that one) ,I had Boston-4' and of course there was a foul called with 1.5 seconds remaining and Philly got the back door cover as they made both FT. I also got the push on the Ind/NJ game Friday night. It is amazing how close the lines were in a couple of these games.
GL tonight and I appreciate your insight on these games. I agree with you call on Det tonight to finish Toronto.
 

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I love the over in this game, Toronto will push the tempo tonight, they are not able to play a half court game which falls to Det's advantage, hence, they have no other choice but to pick it up.
 

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Agree that Det/Over........

Agree that Det/Over........

no worse than 1-1.

As for your comments on this weekend's "games" I'd add......do ya really think Bernie Fryer wanted that Char/Orl game to end UNDER?

After the fact now....we all know, "He wasn't going to count the bucket regardless!"

O' Bernie just didn't think he'd come off look'n as bad as he did!!!

Even his side-kick knew the Davis' "buzzer-beater" was good as he listened to Bernie stutter his way though excuses.

Like Barkley said......the fans/NBA were robbed of a "fantastic finish".

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Lines are tight right now in these playoffs.....I think it was Raz that said, "Couldn't everyone have used an extra point on their games last weekend?"

Caution must be the watch word as these playoff's move forward with tighter lines.

I also agree with Sir Charles when he said these playoff games are too far apart.....and nobody can get in a rhythm (that is unless your the Mavs...IMO).

The playoff's ARE a different kind of NBA bball to wager on. We all need to realize that before we make a play and avoid putting too much on any one play.

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As for tonight......Detroit and over are the way I'll be play'n 'em.

-Stackhouse surely gets off better than 2-10 and 11 points.

-You know Carlisle and the Pistons have no desire for a decisive game 5 back in Detroit.

-And hopefully Bernie won't be officiating the game!!

GL gsp.....I'll be right beside ya in this one. ez
 

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I feel your pain

I feel your pain

As we both know,they are the two time defending champions,so every swingin' dick playing basketball will want to play them,and the oddsmakers will hence try to make them a "bet against" by overlaying the points.In spite of being armed with this knowledge,I was showing them as an 8 or 9 point winner in game three and was seduced into making the play on them because they had yet to cover in this series (the small number also helped but should have been a red flag in retrospect ).Having had that happen behind having the ref negate an improbable but clear win on the under in the Char/Orl game was yet another unwanted reminder that the goddess of wagering can exact an exquisite form of torture on us,indeed.I also had the Lakers in the game you referenced some years ago where all they needed was one free throw and Horry missed four and didn't even try to miss 'em on purpose.Deja vu all over again.IMO the only defense against bad beats like these is to not bet more on one game than the other,so it doesn't sting too badly.GL today
 

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Going with

Det -2'
o 172
Sac -3'

Went back and studied the stats. Sac totally outplayed Utah. Webber and Divac both in foul trouble. If they keep down the to's and shoot a decent per centage they should win by dd.

Good luck everyone.
 
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