monday ncaa basketball ......

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nevada- las vegas (+6.5)
nevada- las vegas moneyline (+240)

always am amazed at how this matchup always is played at the pace of the home team. no matter how hard unlv tries, the utes just beat the shit out of them in the half court when the games are in utah. but then when the utes comes to vegas, they get caught up in the unlv running game and lose more often than not, even if they have a size advantage inside (which is the case this year). i know utah is playing outstanding basketball right now, but to be laying a good chunk of points is risky, especially to a team that, while inconsistent, was the preseason favorite to win the conference and is capable of winning going away (or losing going away for that matter) on any given night. i think theres a ton of value on unlv tonight.

butler bulldogs under

wright state has played uncharacteristically bad defense the last few games, so im expecting them to really get after it tonight, especially against a team who they always play close, low-scoring games with. since biancardi took over at wright state, these two teams have played games of 59-54, 51-39, and 54-53. these games are played at a sloooowww tempo. butler is starting to play better again, and they kinda pissed away the first meeting, leading by 11 in the 2h at home and letting wsu sneak it out. not even seeing 120 points in this game

everything else that is posted below is totally unrelated to today's games so those who dont care to read any further can stop here and click on other posts pertaining to the matchups tonight.


























have been out of town since early saturday so havent been around to post. will try to close the book on the detroit/cleveland state game by simply saying it was the worst collapse ive endured betting college hoops....ever. to completely blow a game in which you led by 24 in the 2nd half, and also have it be against a team you had beaten 10 straight times is bad enough. but the worst part about the collapse is that detroit allows 61 points a game for the season. they play some of the best defense in the entire country. and they got outscored 46-18 in the 2nd half? thats almost impossible to fathom.

very quickly....im not trying to single anyone out, but to address gjn's reaction to the play/game -- if you genuinely feel there is (your quote) "something wrong with [my] picks" and that i should "bet against myself" because i am the titanic, then certainly you can have your opinion but i will keep capping games the same way i have. why the hell would i change what im doing? obviously im capping SOMETHING right if i have had my two biggest plays of the season up by 21 at halftime (detroit laying 1) and up by 17 at halftime (toledo vs. bg), and both were on the road.

would i be a smarter handicapper if i bet ON the teams who came back from 17-point and 21-point halftime deficits?

i doubt it. that would mean that i got pretty damn lucky and i would be very worried about how i was wagering on teams who consistently get blown out in the 1st half. and im sure anyone who followed in that type of situation would not be too comfortable laying points in a game they trailed at the half by 20 points. would anyone be saying, "wow, what a great game of the year call" if i had csu or bowling green in those fluky comebacks? again, i highly doubt it.

bottom line: sometimes, unfathomable bullshit happens.....once every five seasons, a team who allows 60ppg will blow a 24-pt 2nd half lead. im certainly not happy with it. i know perry watson aint too fu.ckin pleased with it. and im sure other detroit bettors are pissed too.

i certainly cant explain how ive had the unfortunate luck of being on the wrong end of:

toledo blowing a 17 pt halftime lead.
rutgers blowing an 18 pt halftime lead.
providence blowing an 11pt lead with under 10:00 left.
and i certainly cant explain detroit blowing a 24 point 2nd half lead.

its very, very hard to blow those kinds of leads, even if you TRY. in a rare case, a team might have a lull and get their lead cut to 7 or 8 points, but then they take back control of the game and the opposition just runs out of gas. but these have been full-blown collapses by all four teams. all within 3 weeks.

all im gonna do is keep capping the way im capping. some people on the board cap games solely to try and get a following of coattailers and to be king of the mountain.

not to sound overly altruistic, but i cap and write up games so that i can help guys maybe get a better grasp of some of these smaller teams, and maybe they can take some info and apply it to a bet down the road. and then hope in return that the help is reciprocated. and it almost always is -- whether it be guys capping the big 12, the west coast conference, the pac10, the wac...whatever. i let people read my stuff and form their own opinions. and whatever that opinion is, theyre entitled to it. even you gjn. ;)

also, im not posting any of this because i want a pat on the ass or an ego prop. just felt it kinda necessary to address what gjn said.

ultimately, the right side is the side who cashes their betting tickets.

i think it comes down to this:

id rather lose a fluke game or two (even if it is on a substantial wager) but know that my capping approach is solid and likely to win money down the road .....

....than i would to win a big GOY, get a handful of the "good job gman" posts, but really just be damn lucky to cash that GOY because an improbable sequence of events took place and i caught a big break, but would be losing money in the coming weeks because i wasnt doing my homework correctly.

maybe that makes sense. maybe it doesnt.

regardless, im still confident in knowing that, while i dont think im better than anyone, id put my work up against anyone else's and feel good about my chances.

g
 

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let me be the first to say "please keep capping the way you are". to say that you should "bet against yourself" is utterly ridiculous. th titanic? come on now, that is some comparison. i would venture to guess you have given many more winners than losers.

i will continue to read and follow your posts.

good luck today.
 

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gman--I am fairly new to this forum, but I figured out pretty quickly that you know what you're doing when it comes to college hoops. In fact, I look for your plays each day. Anyone who said you are the "Titanic" or that you should fade yourself (or words to that effect) is a friggin' moron, who doesn't deserve the time it takes you to respond to their nonsense. Keep doing what you do. You do it VERY well.
 

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GMan

All i was saying was that i feel for you and your picks as I read your posts daily and know you've been on some horrible defeats lately. When i say there is something wrong with your picks, it's nothing against you personally,more of a "shit happens" type of thing but it's been happening too much to you lately....which is why i say there is something wrong and I wont coat-tail you. I make my own wager and if I coat-tail you, that's my decision and my bet...it's not your fault if i win or lose, it's mine...thus these aren't sour grapes. I do believe that you are a solid handicapper in the mac and horizon, but a bad streak and bad luck has been following you lately. That's all.

As for betting against yourself, it was more of a joke but you do seem to have a track record lately for being completely correct, for the first half. Then that bet totally falls apart. thus, until things (like luck) change for you, bet how you cap the game as a 1h wager and cash in.

In all honesty I wish you luck on tonights game and glad to see your still around after sat night.
 

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G - I think you know where I stand with your capping, and how much I appreciate/applaud the information you share with us on a daily basis. As crazy as it sounds, I think in many ways you've "made it" as a capper/personality on these message boards once you get a group of bashers coming after you. It's almost like a catch 22. If someone just posts a team name and a line next to it, it's tough to bash them win or lose. But once you post information and form a real opinion as to how a game will play out you open yourself up to second guessing and the occasional basher god forbid you get one wrong. Sometimes the "why" is much harder to figure out then the "who."

Just my 2 cents. Continued success and best of luck tonight.
 

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gman

you have always been a great asset th jacks. you give fantastic write-ups and remember what goes around will come around, you will se friend :)

keep your chin up
 

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Keep up the good work-I know nothing about these 2 conf and appreciate you great insight that has won me money-thanks and GL
 

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G who cares about some of the lowlifes who lose big cause they follow you for ONE night and then bitch about it, me and you have endured some bad beats latley, but we'll be on the other side of those as well so lets just keep going...Im still suprised we covered that toledo spread vs BG lol, i would have expected a blown cover their too bro :rolleyes:
 

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I often wonder why the people who post consistently continue to do so with all the crap they put up with. It's easy to get on here and post a winning record for 10 picks and then never post again. Or post some fly-by-night, flavor of the day "system" plays that work for a while and then get crushed. It's the long-term consistent winners that can be counted on for solid capping.

Keep doing what you are doing. If you are confident you are on the right side, then nothing should change. Bad beats can be demoralizing and make you feel like you will never win another game. But, they are part of the ups and downs of gambling. For every bad beat you will eventually get a lucky bounce. We just remember the bad beats more clearly. http://www.moviewavs.com/cgi-bin/moviewavs.cgi?Rounders=bank_roll.wav


Bad beats make me feel this way:
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Adversity ultimately makes us stronger. For whatever reason, you have endured an unfathomable stretch of games that seemingly were played two different teams in each half. My January was plagued by some of the toughest luck I have ever experienced as well, and while my losing streak was not nearly as dramatic as some of your games, it tested me as well.

Your analysis and writing skills represent the heart and soul of this hoops forum. Don't alter your style,soon the breaks will be coming your way.


The Zips crush Wednesday! :)
 
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Honestly I do not see why guys get so offended when someone post an ignorant reply. You know that is what they are trying to do why even give the the satisfaction or reasoning. You know you do your best and believe in your numbers and who cares if nobody else does. You know you will never hit every game and will have tough streaks at points in the years. Now that being said I think your UNLV play is suicidal. I could be wrong but am making huge profits with the Utes. No way they do not win this game by double digits. I still think people do not realize how good they are. As for UNLV not a very good basketball team on any night. As for being picked first in the conference so where the Seahawks and I think they covered 1 or two spreads all year. I will ride my money on a consistent hot team vs a roller coaster ride. I think you are grasping and hoping for a miracle. Good luck with your plays and have a short memory. Shoot I am a coach and am 2nd guessed by people a lot. Who cares!
 

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I took a pretty good look at the Raider/ Butler game tonight and just worry a bit about the Raiders getting to the stripe quite a bit tonight. Butler got beat up pretty bad inside at their place so its hard not to think that they will get owned inside again.I just hope the crew is not too whistle happy tonight. I do like the Raiders -3 to cover.
 

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If you post another loser I think you should be tar & feathered :mj07:
 

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i've cashed often over the past years w/ "wright st @ home", they've been spoilers or upset dogs so often it's tough for me to not play 'em blindly...see that spang likes the side, how 'bout you?...gl, caper
 

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winder:

i dont like it. then again, i didnt particularly like the buffalo/ohio over last week and they played a game in the 170s. but the bg/ohio game i think will have more D than expected. the first meeting started off really high scoring but both defenses really stepped it up in the 2h. falcons blew the first meeting that they pretty much had in hand the whole game (leading by 4-5 most of the way until the final 2:00). i think bg defense will be sharp tonight. again, take it completely fwiw.
 

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i gotta take this home dog.

colorado state (+4)
colorado state moneyline (+150)

yes, colorado state is lame. but i dont think theyre as bad as theyve been playing lately. making no secret that a lot of this play is centered around one factor: rebounding. csu hasnt been shooting the ball well lately, but i expect them to control the boards, especially the offensive glass. air force is a terrible rebounding team. falcons are gonna make csu work for everything they get, but laying points on the road in the mwc is normally questionable. rams for me.

one thing that scares me is that the mwc midnight game has been chalk players paradise so far. hopefully csu bucks that trend.
 

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final card:

unlv spread and moneyline
butler under (122)
oklahoma state 2h over 73.5 in POD thread
colorado state spread and moneyline
 
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